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radriano 31 Aug 99 - 07:21 PM
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Subject: New verse to Northwest Passage
From: radriano
Date: 31 Aug 99 - 07:21 PM

I was looking up info on Stan Rogers for a friend of mine and found (at the Stan Rogers web page) that Stan Rogers wrote an additional verse to his song "Northwest Passage". Perhaps this is already common knowledge but for those don't know about it, here is that additional verse:

And if should be I come again to loved ones left at home
Put the journals on the mantle, shake the frost out of my bones
Making memories of the passage, only memories after all
And hardships there the hardest to recall

Hm, I wonder if that last line should read "And hardships they're the hardest to recall"?


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Subject: RE: New verse to Northwest Passage
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Sep 99 - 01:46 PM

On the way back from the Ottawa Festival, Duckboots and I listened to Stan's "Live in Nova Scotia". STRONG performance.

Rick


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Subject: Lyr Add: NORTHWEST PASSAGE (Stan Rogers)
From: GUEST,Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 23 May 04 - 02:20 PM

I found this on a Stan Rogers site recently. Stan wrote a fifth verse for the song Northwest Passage. Here it is and worthy of inclusion in this fine song.

And if should be I come again to loved ones left at home,
Put the journals on the mantle, shake the frost out of my bones,
Making memories of the passage, only memories after all,
And hardships there the hardest to recall.

Ah, for just one time, I would take the Northwest Passage
To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea,
Tracing one warm line through a land so wide and savage,
And make a Northwest Passage to the sea.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 May 04 - 02:27 PM

Dave-

Interesting verse. I hadn't run across that one before.

"Tracing one warm line
through a land so wide a savage"

Looks like this chorus line needs some proofing, although the image conjured up is fascinating!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: GUEST,Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 23 May 04 - 02:35 PM

Charlie.

This verse really flows well into the song. Stan wrote what in my opinion is a Canadian Anthem. This is my favourite Stan Rigers song.
heres the link to it in case you would like to read more about it.
http://stevebriggs.superb.net/stanrogers/songs/nwp-sng.html


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Jeri
Date: 23 May 04 - 03:16 PM

Also posted by radriano in 1999, with the same typos. I think it's on the official Stan site like that.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 May 04 - 04:48 PM

Dave-

I do proof reading all the time and there's no point in repeating someone's typo's if you're aware of them.

The chorus line should read, according to STAN ROGERS: SONGS FROM FOGARTY'S COVE, p. 86:

"Tracing one warm line through a land so wide AND savage"

And, yes, it's a damn fine song.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Cluin
Date: 23 May 04 - 08:33 PM

I always figured it was a song about a Canadian road musician with a knowledge of history.

And yes, a great song. I like the 5th verse, but can't imagine singing it live. The song is long enough for an acapella, though perfect as is. It would work for inclusion on a soundtrack for sure. Good instincts production-wise and arrangement-wise on the 4 verse version (though 3 verses is usually considered classic, non?)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Hrothgar
Date: 23 May 04 - 09:26 PM

We used this extra verse in our presentation of Stan Rogers' songs at the 2002 (Australian) National Folk Festival, and yes, it does make the song a trifle long (It was actually in there to show off all our research).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Jeri
Date: 23 May 04 - 09:46 PM

I told a friend about the last verse a couple of years ago. He didn't like it because he thought it trivialized the rest of the song. Personally, I kind of like it.

Hrothgar, this is one song that always seems to end too soon for me. One more verse = one more opportunity to sing the chorus.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: GUEST,Anne Croucher
Date: 23 May 04 - 10:20 PM

Oh great another verse - when I have sung it here I got the feeling that another verse would have been liked.

I begin with a chorus bacause that is how I heard it - and the audience have sung the chorus twice at the end as well when they realised there was no more verses - when they get a song they like there is no stopping them if they want to do the chorus twice.

I didn't hear 'one warm line' I sang 'one more line' so it is a Tipex job - just when I thought I had made the final correction and made a perfect copy of all my songs. I won't be rewriting 250 songs just for one word.

It is a good verse, it earns its place in the song. Its a sort of home is the hunter home from the hills and the sailor home from the sea - so thats alright then.

Anne


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 25 May 04 - 06:42 AM

Shouldn't "there" in line 4 be "they're"?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 May 04 - 09:57 AM

Don't know. Could work either way. I like the sentiment in this extra verse but the phrasing appears to make it difficult to deliver. But can one alter Stan's wording? Maybe for just one time we can rephrase this difficult passage...

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Northwest Passage
From: Cluin
Date: 25 May 04 - 11:52 AM

Nope, I don't think so. It scans right and makes complete sense and is in keeping with the language style of the rest of the song (though that first line might take a bit of getting used to).

...And hardships there, the hardest to recall.


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Subject: RE: Verse Add: Northwest Passage (Stan Rogers)
From: GUEST,Tanker 06
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 04:04 PM

Actually, the site I looked at from the link about says the line is " a land so WILD and savage". I must admit however, since the first time I heard this song was as part of the music on a PBS program about the Franklin Expedition, and since most of their problems were with being iced in trying to find the Northwest Passage I assumed the "one warm line" was open water through the ice fields, which were " a land so WHITE and savage". I guess you hear what you want to, no matter what the composer really meant.


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Subject: RE: Verse Add: Northwest Passage (Stan Rogers)
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 09:16 AM

I have an EM3 of this version with the extra verse on a hard drive somewhere. It was an extra in the file an old acquaintance gave me about 13 years ago. Just found this thread while trying to track it down for a quick listen as i am living in another country at the moment.


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Subject: RE: Verse Add: Northwest Passage (Stan Rogers)
From: meself
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 11:40 AM

Perhaps enough time has gone by that I can finally ask this: am I the only one in the world who is just a little put off by the self-aggrandizing in this song?

"Am I so very different then ... "

Yes, you are. Leaving the settled life behind to take a road-trip along the Trans-Canada from gig to gig in the 1970s is nothing like hacking your way through the northern wilderness in the 16-1700s.


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