Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods

Subject: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:30 AM

First and foremost has to be a hot dog with ketchup on it which will laugh you out of any hot dog stand in Chicago.

Second is beef in England

Third is the English French Fry which is called chips, which are supposed to come in a bag. any English potato is fake unless it's imported from Idaho.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:31 AM

Ooops. sorry, forgot the BS thing at the beginning, if you will move it down south please. Thanks, and of course, Be blessed.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:45 AM

a beautiful salad of baby beetroots, goats cheese, rocket, pine nuts, tomoatoes...

beets blessed..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:46 AM

I had a hot dog at Chicago airport that had some green stuff on. I wasn't very impressed. I ate at the Webber Grill and Joes Stone Crab in Chicago. I don't think they had 'dogs on but I have promised myself to try a real one when we go back:-)

English beef if OK now the cows are not mad anymore. The problem with mad cow disiese was that the cows thought they were Napoleon Bonaparte which gave them a French flavour...

And how can we have an English French fry? C'mon, man. That must be an oxywhassit at its best;-) Must say though that best fries I have had were in Belgium with mayonaise on. Unless it was the beer that made them taste good?

Lang may ye lumb reek.

:D

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:51 AM

Try french fries (made from Idaho russets, of course) with a "dipping sauce" of catsup (or ketchup, if you don't have catsup) and mayonnaise. This is an Idaho specialty.

But you want foods that aren't really foods.

How about Chicago "style" pizza? Or Montreal steamies?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:56 AM

I don't think McDonalds are realy food...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:12 PM

only if you are a cannibal are McDonald's food. Or another species.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: GUEST,Augie
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:45 PM

The in-imitable CHEEZ-WIZ, which of course contains no real cheese whatsoever.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: mg
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:53 PM

margerine. Real coke, although it is the nectar of the gods...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:08 PM

Idaho potaotes were stolen from South America....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:46 PM

Were not. They grow, nay, they proliferate, between Blackfoot and here.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Joybell
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:52 PM

What's with this French Fry talk. They're CHIPS. Here they are Chips too. Fish and Chip shops have signs that say CHIPS minimum order $2.00 or whatever. They're only French Fries at McDonalds. Mind you, chips aren't what they used to be. Fish and chip shops used to provide us with wonderful chips cooked in DRIPPING and wrapped in newspaper. They were FAT chips too, not skinny little ones. AND you could buy 6d worth. OR you could buy a bag of just crumbley bits for 3d. a bag - free if you were the first kid for the day. You can tell I'm trying to diet AGAIN. Joy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: TS
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:02 PM

on Canada's East coast..there's a summertime treat at McDonalds..the McLobster Roll...not sure if McDonald's provides real lobster meat or not..$7.00 will get you a hotdog bun, a pile of lettuce, and some meat that resembles that of a lobster..could be British Beef though..I've made that mistake before...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:19 PM

heck, from what I've read, Marmite is not really a food, but more of a 'test' and an affectation....like a big practical joke to see who can carry on doing something unpleasant the longest...*big grin*...(sorta like eating whole roasted Habanro peppers!)

sure...you can 'acclimate' to pain and weirdness for the sake of membership in a secret society, but ENJOY?...tsk...*one more big grin*

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: mg
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:48 PM

fruit cocktail in a can always looked very suspect to me. I had a sister who would obsessively arrange all the fruit alphabetically or something. I'd just dump it in a bowl. mg

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:50 PM

macdonalds=shite.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:53 AM

Liptons have brought out 'flavoured tea' tea bags. The flavours come from fermented soy & wheat byproducts. Now who can I give the rest of the pack to....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Gurney
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:29 AM

Rice. Spaghetti. Pasta. Tomato. Lettuce.

I know you can exist on them, but it isn't really living, is it!

I'd rather have potatoes, always providing the cook buys the right kind for the dish, particularly deepfried spuds.

Haven't any evidence to work with, but wouldn't Idaho's spuds come originally from England, whence, (English) legend has it, everywhere but South America got them? Ditto tobacco.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:39 AM

marmite is a copy of the original and best, vegemite - and neither is an affectation, they're real food, and they taste great!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: jacqui.c
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 05:11 AM

I agree Freda - Marmite is either a love it or hate it thing.

I've been told that it's very good for keeping mosquitoes away, although whether you eat it or spread it on I'm not sure - I suppose it depends on whether the mozzies like or loathe Marmite......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 05:52 AM

The worst thing I've ever eaten (and my experience includes things like Tripe, Sheep's Brain and other such delicacies) was a McDonalds Sausage & Egg McMuffin in the Houston Galleria. It was the usual sausage and egg but the muffin contained BLUEBERRIES and was dusted in SUGAR!!!!! In the words of the Bard of 'Ull, Sir j0hn MBE, it was SHITE.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 06:23 AM

Joybell. There are still Fish and Chip shops in UK where you can purchase chips which have been fried in dripping...one such being in
the little town where "The Last of the Summer Wine" is filmed.... Holmfirth. Lovely to be able to go in and order a chip dinner as in the old days, with cup of tea and bread with real butter. I am informed that all the "Harry Ramsdens" chips and fish are so prepared too but they are a little on the expensive side.
Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 07:20 AM

Foods native to the 'New World' (mainly South America) & transported to other countries in the 'Old World' (Europe & Africa) after "Columbus crossed the ocean blue"

Potatoes
Corn
Tomatoes
Chilis/Peppers
and a few others less well known

Robin
A Foodie whose main interest while in the SCA (a recreational organisation interested in studying the world prior to 1600) was the history and transmigration of food stuffs, as well as preparation of medieval/Renaissance food.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 07:24 AM

... ooops - tobacco too...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: RangerSteve
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 10:36 AM

squid.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:25 AM

jacqui -

marmite n vegemite - were used as a mosquito repellant in Manus Island, PNG when i went there in late 2001 - method of application, internal (spread on buttery toast n eat!)

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:27 PM

They sell good chips in Skipton but we got thrown out for dancing in in singing

'Harry Ramsdens, Harry Ramsdens.
Ramsdens, Ramsdens.
Harry, Harry...'

Serves us right realy. Wern't even wearing yellow robes. Orange kags and hiking boots don't count I guess...

:D

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: freightdawg
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:30 PM

Rapaire -

The best Idaho russets are grown in southern Colorado.




(ducking and running with tail between legs)

Freightdawg

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Megan L
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:51 PM

Georgian Silver the resturant/chip shop opposite the war memorial in Brora does an good oldfashioned fish tea, plenty of bread pot of tea and peas with a huge piece of fish and plenty of chips.

Its good but the best ever is the Pierowall Hotel on Westray.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 01:10 PM

Megan L. Are we talking about US here. If so I want to come visit. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 01:21 PM

Another vote for McDonald's "food"...YUCK!!! Most fast food hamburgers. Pizza. Margarine. Candy bars (they're not food, they're entertainment). Taco Bell stuff (from which one gets an illness called "Taco Belly"). Olives, green or black. Kentucky Fried Chicken. Caviar. Smelly French cheeses with mould on the outside. Pickled pigs feet. Haggis. Hostess Twinkies.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 02:11 PM

I read on one of these lists that marmite is a kind of yeast pastey thing, right? One of the "natural" mosquito repellants I've always been aware of is brewers yeast (a powder). It's good when given to the pets because it also helps repel fleas, and people can disguise the taste by mixing it in orange juice or something equally strong. The yeast has a lot of vitamin B, and when your body excretes the excess B vitamins via your skin it has a smell that the mosquitoes don't like. So it's probably the B vitamins in the yeasty marmite that is doing the trick.

I consider canned things like Chef Boyardee and Spaghetti Ohs to be non-food items. Same with canned baby food and frozen waffles. Some things just need to be made fresh. That canned stuff is awful, and pre-cooked and frozen breads are horrible.

SRS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 02:18 PM

"American cheese". Hah! If you read the package it says something like "Pasteurized Processed Cheese Food Product". It's not cheese. It's "cheese food". You're not supposed to eat it. You're supposed to find some hungry cheese and feed it to the cheese.

No, it's not original. Thank you, Gallagher.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 02:20 PM

Yeah, processed cheese looks more like a plastic product to me than a food.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Joybell
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 09:03 PM

Yes American cheese. It's bright ORANGE! I remember it well. Horrible stuff! I assume there is real cheese in the cities of the East coast? We were in the South-West and orange cheese was all there was. Joy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Helen
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 09:38 PM

Strollin' Johnny, you've just reminded me of the time I went to one of my favourite local cafes and ordered some home made ice cream. Well, strictly speaking, not "home" made of course, but made on the premises.

The young female person posing as a waiter - maybe she was having a senior's moment - brought out the ice cream on a dinner plate, with salad on it as well - lettuce, tomato, shredded carrot etc. Huh!!

I was so bemused I just pushed the salad to one side and ate the ice cream. Still trying to figure that one out.

Joybell, if you ever get to try real orange cheese, called Red Leicester, now that is nice. I have also tried cheese with claret through it. Yum!

Years ago I used to go to a regular get-together with some people and we all used to bring along nibblies. I decided it would be clever for everyone to go to the cheese shops and only bring a cheese which started with the same initial as our name. The aim was to break out from habit and try cheeses we had never tried before. I brought Havarti, and Swiss, I think. But I might have cheated and instead of Swiss I brought Emmentaler because I had never tried it and it was a specific variety of Swiss cheese. I think that's where I tried the cheese with claret. I love cheese - even more than chocolate. Yes, even more than that!

Helen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Joybell
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 10:37 PM

What a good idea Helen. If we ever meet I'll bring the Jarlsberg. Your story about the icecream salad reminded me about jelly sandwiches. I was working in a small hospital where the supper-lady brought us, and the patients, sandwiches filled with peanut butter and what Americans call "Jello". Bright green and bright red wobbly Jello. We call "Jello" - "Jelly" and the other stuff we call "Jam". She must have read about peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Actually they weren't too bad. A bit weird, and hard to keep together, but not too bad. Joy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:54 PM

Bill, I think you're right about the Marmite. The Aussies have a product called Vegemite. But don't tell Helen I agreed with you. She was my Secret Santa and sent me some. We lost our electricity last week, and much of my refrigerator contents had to be thrown out, but the Vegemite still sits there...as a reminder or something...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 12:07 AM

Another "food that's not really a food" is grits.

Many people don't like grits. That's because they are operating under the mistaken assumption that grits are food. They aren't. Grits are a "food extender". The proper way to eat grits is to mix genuine food such as scrambled eggs or catfish nuggets with the grits and eat the mixture. Nobody in their right mind eats grits alone. Yuck! I'd much rather eat styrofoam packing peanuts or ground up umbrella handles.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Helen
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 05:22 AM

Awwh, Mary-in-Ky, you mean you didn't like my present?

:-D

I think I said in my note that I was only sending you a small jar so that you could try it and know what the Mudcat threads had been about. If you have a cat or dog, try putting a little bit in their food bowl or see if they will lick some off your finger, or even cut a little bit of toast off with a scraping of Vegemite on it. I bet they like it....even if you don't like it...sniff...sniff. I bet you didn't like the Tim Tams either. :-)

Helen

Who, having been brought up on Vegemite could not imagine a world without it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 05:28 AM

Good God Mary! You don't keep Marmite or Vegemite in the fridge! They have so much salt in them that they are clinically sterile - no organism can grow in them, any more than they can grow in undiluted honey - which also does not need to be kept in a fridge.

Lasts forever!

Robin
(An Aussie)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 06:56 AM

I agree with the fish and chips fried in dripping, definitely the only way. The potatos should be Kerr's Pinks, and the fish must be Haddock.
I don't know about the fish tea in Brora, but they certainly make, and sell the best ice cream for hundreds of miles in Brora, Capaldis lovely!
McDonalds burgers bear no relation to meat at all, and are probably safe for vegetarians.
I will not eat Alphabetti Spaghetti, or Alphabet Soup, nobody's going to put words in my mouth!
Giok

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: schnakaja
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 09:58 AM

Hi, Dave the gnome! I would like to contact you about a posting of Russian folk songs you made a couple of years ago. I'm wondering if you could send me a fax of two of the songs. I'm a professional musician in Vienna and could really use them for a program I'm doing next year. Can you send me an e-mail, or how can I contact you directly? (You can see I'm not very well-versed in computers...) Thanks for your help, Michael

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 12:11 PM

I have sent you a PM schnakaja - If you are not sure how to see it click on 'Personal Page' at the top of this page and follow the link(s).

Cheers

D.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:51 PM

Helen, the Tim Tams were fabulous. I still have the Arnott's tin on my bookshelf by my computer to remind me of them. Sitting on top of the tin is the box my Yorkshire tea came in.

Bee-dubya-ell, I agree about the grits -- it's what you put with 'em -- salt and butter are always a good choice. As a matter of fact, they say that traditional Southern cooking can take any perfectly healthy vegetable (such as green beans or squash) and make it unhealthy by adding enough salt and bacon grease.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:58 PM

Is it too early fore Secret Sant 2004? Or am I just jonesing for more prezzies?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Joybell
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 07:35 PM

Oh yes! I love the Secret Santa bit too. A couple of us are doing a sort of not-secret but Santa-ish thing already, started on the thread about comfort food. A sort of international favourite-food exchange. I'm off in search of goodies today.
I have never liked Vegimite but I have to keep a jar in the pantry because I hate to see visiting friends go through the terrible withdrawl symptoms if I don't. Joy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 12:03 AM

G'day Mary in Kentucky,

Of course, the real reason for the great Australian affinity for Vegemite is the source of the yeast ... it's a by-product of local beer brewing! I'm not sure where Marmite's yeast started out ... but I did read, somewhere, of similar yeast extracts (presumably in Ireland) made from Guinness yeasts.

Freda: ... Errr ... I think you'll find that Vegemite was a quite deliberate local copy/adaptation of Marmite ... indeed, there is a story claiming one of the brand names considered was ... "Pa-will"!

Regard(les)s,

Bob

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 12:39 AM

I did a sort of extension of the Secret Santa thing last year with Bat Goddess when we decided to exchange rocks. She had that interesting garnet-filled granite from Maine and I sent a Texas fossil sea urchin.

Back to the food discussion

SRS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Foods that aren't really foods
From: Gurney
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:27 AM

SRS, you win. They are quite the worst foods so far.   (Chuckle)