Whitby- Glaisdale Trip

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 08:02 AM

Glad I stayed in Whitby!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:47 PM

Raggytash, it goes without saying that I agree with your view about the abuse, but that's not the point. As I made clear, my concern was about how this forum is managed.

To repeat, I raised a question about comments (now deleted) in this thread at the time, and I am not impressed by the way the problem was subsequently addressed. The issue about whether Mudcat should be, or indeed is, censored has long been a legitimate subject for debate. I happen to believe it would be irresponsible to operate a totally hands-off policy. But where content is deleted, it is duplicitous to pretend that it has not been. To maintain that deception where the deleted content has provoked comment is just stupid.

I expressed my concern in this thread because this is where the problem manifested itself. I thought this would be less contentious than creating a separate thread, but on reflection maybe a separate thread is what was needed.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 04:02 AM

It has every reason to concern me, someone I know is being abused with little chance of a reasonable reply.
My view is quite simple, the Mudcat is no place for gratuituosly slagging another person, especially when the perpetrators do not even have the guts to place their name against their comments. Why you choose to raise the subject yet again is puzzling to say the least or perhaps voyeuristic

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 08:38 PM

Raggytash, generators of threads have no more responsibility than anyone else, so please try to be a bit less proprietorial. .

I asked at the time for this thread to be edited. I have now regretted that the editing was not done intelligently. Unless you have a view on this particular point then the matter need not concern you.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,red and white rabbit
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 02:11 AM

calm Raggy my dear friend let it go or else you will have a thres like the Whitby one!

will drop a tape down to you - by the way someone suggested I put together a disc or tape of lifeboat songs for next years Whitby - what do you reckon can a couple of us get together and do something?

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 03:59 PM

Peter

AS the generator of this thread, I have to ask you why you feel it necessary to bring up an issue that not only has been deleted but has not been refered to for over 10 days. I can only assume you are trying to shit stir and that being the case you you kindly piss off and do it elsewhere.
Should you take offence to this I am quite willing to discuss it with you personally

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 03:47 PM

Gratuitously offensive comments about someone called Dave/David have been removed from this thread. That is good. They should never have been posted. But it is a deception for the censor to have done so without showing his/her hand, and careless to leave in two references to those now non-existent comments. Far better, and much less underhand, to have noted where deletions were made, with a simple explanation of why intervention was appropriate.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: alanww
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 11:32 AM

It certainly was crowded, HRH ted of hull, but I did just manage to squeeze into the room and did a couple of songs - thanks for the loan of the mike Raggytash - might not have been heard otherwise!
Great trip! Thanks for organising it and good luck to the lifeboat crew.
"Come fill up your glasses ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 07:31 AM

Words and Tune would be much appreciated, however I cannot read music so I tape would be evry useful

Ta

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,red and white rabbit
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 06:02 AM

our pleasure Raggy

did you want the tune for the Runswick BAy life boat song?

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 05:34 AM

A huge Thank you from the Committee and Crew of the Runswick Bay Rescue Boat, you raised just shy of £97.15 on the afternoon which was duly rounded to £100 then on Wednesday Ben May slipped a fiver into my hand to add to the total. I took this amount to Runswick on Wednesday evening and on my back called at the Tap & Spile, where Red and White Rabbit called for a whip round when she sang the song "The Eighth Wreck" she then gave me the resultant £30 to add to the coffers of the Rescue Boat. I took this up on Saturday and passed it to one of the Committee Penny Pinkney who was so amazed at the generousity of the wonderful people who are my friends and compatriates. From myself all I can say is Thank you once again for your kindness and consideration of the great selfless work carried out by Life Boat Crews everywhere and Runswick Bay in particular

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Red and WHite Rabbit
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 06:27 AM

Sorry I couldnt make it - but you know what happens when you take Malcolms shilling - work work work

sorry I couldnt have your babies raggy and never got up the hill for me cheese grommet - but I hope you enjoy the song

see you soon

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: ossonflags
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 01:33 AM

We touched the buffers again.

Apologies to the bemused backpackers who got on at Grosmont !!!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: HRH ted of hull
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 04:12 AM

It was bloody packed! We couldn't get in the room! Did raggy spill any of that pint I bought him? Grand shorts display gentlemen.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: gnomad
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 06:04 AM

Last call, now....We depart in 100 minutes.

Please bring sun-block, self draining footwear, and equipment for the disection of small humans.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 04:17 AM

Oh Rabbit, the lyrics are quite unequivocal "the girl I love is on that train and GONE"
She's gone, the trains gone, all the little travellers are gone, the platform is empty (except for the basket of flowers hanging from an old rusty nail)

PS You shall have my Babies, by the way, do you like Madiera me dear?

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:18 PM

whose arguing just because Raggy is reading too much into a song when the lyrics definitely dont say that the train has gone let alone any sh*t about guards and sandmen - Raggy get a grasp on reality here the song says it arrived not that it left!right?

now as for the more important things what about me having your babies Raggy I like to eat them from the bottom up that way you get to watch their faces when you bite em in half!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: wigan
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 02:51 PM

hope you aren't going to argue about this song on sun. we want a singaround not a fall out

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: HRH ted of hull
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 10:19 AM

Not unless you put low tension nylon Savarez strings on it for me dave.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 10:15 AM

Ted will you still be demonstrating that J160E on the train?

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: HRH ted of hull
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 10:08 AM

Definitely not Dylan that one, it makes sense.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: muppett
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:36 AM

The train is rolling down the track
Listen to the wheels go clickety click
Over the bridge around the bend
Taking me for a ride.

The engine's up the front of the train
Pulling all the cars through the sun & the rain
Over the bridge around the bend
Taking me for a ride.

There El Ted does that make sence, not sure who wrote it but it weren't Dylan.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: HRH ted of hull
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:17 AM

oh..... I'll get me coat then.......

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:13 AM

The Saints preserve us

The song says quite clearly

"the girl I love is on THAT train and gone"

She climbed on board the bloody thing, the platform man waved his flag, blew his whistle, the driver stuck it in gear and chuffed out of the bleedin' station

and no doubt some time later the sandman swung his soddin' lantern to show that all was piggin' alright ....... right

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: HRH ted of hull
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:05 AM

The song doesn't make bloody sense, so it has to one of Dylans!!!!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 08:59 AM

what about the crackers grommet?

by the way me dwearwest dwarling waggy it didnt say the train had gone again it merely said it arrived - I wish these singer songwriters would say what they mean - hows a girl supposed to keep up?

Can I have your babies then Raggy - or are they Sherbert Lemons?

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 04:06 AM

and some cheese !

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 10:10 AM

As the Romans would say "Dylan my arseium" this song goes back to at least the mid 19 century, recorded by the Carter Family in the 1930's Woody Guthrie in the 1940's etc etc

Susan Sweetie ....... are you sitting down, good girl, now then ....... the train arrived at the station(choo choo) and the little girl got on it, and then the train left the station (with the little girl on it, choo choo)

thus

the train arrived it's twenty one coaches long
the girl I love is on that train and gone

By the way, I've got some sweeties

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: HRH ted of hull
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 09:23 AM

I think it's one of Dylans's, so it's not supposed to make sense!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 09:04 AM

well guest this gal aint gone but the lyrics dont make sense to a mere lass like me if the train arrived how can she be on the train and gone surely she would have come I mean arrived - no rude comments Raggy!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 04:08 AM

The train arrived it's twenty coaches long
the train arrived it's twenty coaches long
the train arrived it's twenty coaches long
the girl I love is on that train and gone

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 07:21 AM

Raggy...can't make it to Glezal...not arriving till tuesday...but I'm sure that that train is bound for glory....you can hear the whistle blow a hundred miles....

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: el ted
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 05:54 AM

yeah I owe you a pint or two Nick. the downstairs room is now totally cleared out.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 05:24 AM

Ted

That (the ddownstairs room) was agreed with the previous landlord and mentioned in an earlier thread, however last weekend when I spoke to the new landlord, Graham, he said it was full of his furniture, obviously he has now moved it, I think we may end up using both up and down stairs as I have a feeling there will be a lot of people

Looking forward to seeing you and Penny and savouring my glass of sherry (although Cider would make an adequate substitute ! )

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: el ted
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 04:42 AM

I was in the Arnliffe on saturday, and they are going to open up the downstairs room specifically for this glorious event. It has it's own bar too.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 04:28 AM

Yes somewhere hidden away I have some funds for you

as for trip out need to see how things go with children as they will be with me all week

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 04:15 AM

Does anyone object if I raffle a bottle or two for the Runswick Bay Rescue Boat

Rabbit, did you say you had some funds for it, and if so how about a trip out there so you can see the boat and crew, they practice on a Wednesday Evening during the summer

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Charliestu
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 12:58 PM

Yo Raggy!   Put me down for 1 to go

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 05:28 AM

I dont know what you mean!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: muppett
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 09:33 AM

wthyxbhyipbgikxvkilgfggkhbfkyfmfdfbuyfjtuekfysd to you too Raggy

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 09:27 AM

What ........ fluent Jibberish

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 08:46 AM

Nopw your talking my language muppett

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: muppett
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:09 AM

Time goes by when you're a driver of a train
And you sit on the footplate there & back again
Under bridges, Over bridges to our destination
Puffing through the countryside there so much to be seen
Passengers waving as we steam through the station
Stoke up fireman for the signal is at green.

Time goes by when you're a driver of a train
And you sit on the footplate there & back again
In the cutting through the tunnel
Rushing clanking on the track
Whizing pistons, smoking funnel
Turning wheels go clickerty clack

Time goes by when you're a driver of a train
And you sit on the footplate there & back again

(From the T.V. Prog. Chigley)

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:34 AM

..you'll never get another one (beedy beedy bum bum to Glasgow Central)

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:19 AM

If you miss the train I'm on......

Didnt Thomas the Tank Engine work on the island of Sodoff?

and what was the name of the dragon on Ivor the Engine

What do Thomas the Tank engine and Ivor the Engine have in common?






.....same middle name yea I know - the old ones are the only ones I can remember!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: muppett
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:58 AM

Well said Raggy, Looking forward t' do.

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: el ted
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:29 AM

I will be retuning to Hull straight after this glorious event, if anyone needs a lift back to said Hull, please PM me
flamenco, the true path

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:01 AM

OK Boys and Girls, Please lets get back to the thread, I understand people have various opinions about David but this is not the place to air them. If anyone has a grievance with him I think they should at least discuss it with him personally as opposed to putting nameless threads on a web-site, which I am led to believe he he doesn't access anyway (possibly because of the slating he gets)

This thread is supposed to be about a geat day out on the 22nd August 2004 when we all catch a train from Whitbyat 12.36 to go to the Arncliffe Arms at Glaisdale for a few hours of singing and making merry, so please can we return to that

George you have a lot to answer for, I expect more than one pint in recompense

They dragged her dead from Tobermory
too cheap to spare her one last head of steam
it's dark inside this evil place
clouds on the Moon hide her disgrace
the Whiskey hides my own

It's the last watch on the Midland
the last watch alone
one last night to love her
the last night she's home

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 12:12 PM

Whitey please to hear it,

George ............ Bugger off !!

Subject: RE: Whitby- Glaisdale Trip
From: GUEST,Whitey
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 11:58 AM

Sorry to interupt the arse kicking session, but thought I'd better let Raggytash know that there will be a crowd of us going to the Glaisdale bash. 6-8 of us. Hardy and White Family. Duncan - Alan

What the hell have you done Dave to deserve all the stick your taking.

Are you sure you want to come out of hiding. It's a long way back if you get thrown off the train!