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Origins: Little Satchel

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I WILL PUT MY SHIP IN ORDER
I WILL SET MY SHIP IN ORDER (2)
LITTLE SATCHEL
SILVER DAGGER
WAKE, O WAKE, YOU DROWSY SLEEPER


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Little Neophyte 02 Oct 01 - 08:44 PM
Joe Offer 02 Oct 01 - 10:08 PM
Little Neophyte 02 Oct 01 - 10:39 PM
Stewie 03 Oct 01 - 01:27 AM
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GUEST,Stew 04 Aug 04 - 07:45 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 04 Aug 04 - 08:16 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 04 Aug 04 - 08:19 PM
The Shambles 05 Aug 04 - 01:01 PM
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Joe Offer 05 Aug 04 - 08:20 PM
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Joe Offer 06 Aug 04 - 02:28 AM
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GUEST,RoberM 27 Feb 11 - 08:01 AM
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Subject: Little Satchel
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 02 Oct 01 - 08:44 PM

Hi Guys,
I tried the lyric search but had no luck. I'm looking for Little Satchel. I think it is a Fredcockerham tune but that is all I know.
It sure is a real pretty tune. Love to learn it.
If anyone knows where I can find the lyrics, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Miss Bonnie


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Little Satchel
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Oct 01 - 10:08 PM

Hi, Bonnie - can you remember any phrases from it? Titles can be misleading.
-Joe-
Foiled again! Twice in a day!
It's in the Digital Tradition (click). I shoulda known. You should have, too, Bonnie....

Hey, let's blame it on sluggish Internet traffic. It's really slow today...
LITTLE SATCHEL [from Digital Tradition]

Under my bed you can set your little satchel
And on my head come lay your little hand
If you will be my own true lover
And I will be your loving little man

Run to the house and ask your papa
A bride of mine you'll ever be
If he says come back and tell me
And I'll wait till you get free

When you get free well then we'll get married
Look how happy we will be
Oh we'll go to California
Any place you want to go

I wish I was a little angel
And over these prison walls I would fly
Fly on back to the arms of my darling
Stay at home and there I will die

As you can see I'm no little angel
Neither have I wings to fly
I'll go back all broken hearted
Weep and moan until I die

Under my bed you can set your little satchel
And on my head come lay your little hand
If you will be my own true lover
And I will be your loving little man


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There is no listing for this song in the Traditional Ballad Index.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Little Satchel
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 02 Oct 01 - 10:39 PM

Oooops, thanks Mr. Offer. You sure do stand for your name.....Offering lots of help.
Well it could have been worst. Remember way back when I asked for the lyrics to Oscar Meyer Wiener?
You came through then too. Mr. Joe, a man who endlessly offers his help around here.

Thanks
Miss Bonnie


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Little Satchel
From: Stewie
Date: 03 Oct 01 - 01:27 AM

My favourite rendition of this fine ballad is on Dirk Powell's 'If I Go Ten Thousand Miles' Rounder CD 0384. It is sung by Jim Miller, who also plays guitar on the track, with Dirk Powell on clawhammer banjo and Tim O'Brien on second guitar. Lovely stuff!

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Little Satchel
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 03 Oct 01 - 02:58 PM

Thanks Stewie, I will check it out. Dirk Powel and Tim O'Brian are amazing on 'Songs From The Mountain'.
Chris Coole here in Toronto sings 'Little Satchel' mighty fine too but I don't think he has recorded it yet.

Bonnie


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Subject: Origins: Little Satchel
From: GUEST,Stew
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 07:45 PM

An ongoing thread (Meet Me Tonight in the Moonlight), brings to mind a tune I once heard titled Little Satchel. Does anyone know if this tune is related to or based on MMTMoonlight. Even better would be to find a version of it somewhere on the net. Thanks.
Stew


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:16 PM

The title "Little Satchel" was used by the New Lost City Ramblers.
It is one of the "Drowsy Sleeper" clan, not related to the Moonlight song.
You can find the words here: Little Satchel


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:19 PM

Now that I have read the verses, I see where you got the "moonlight." Looks like the song is made up of bits and pieces from other songs.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 01:01 PM

Is this not because the words are more a way to remember the tune?


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 01:17 PM

Then why go past one verse?


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 02:06 PM

Singing the same verse over and over does get a little tiresome.

Even Old Joe Clark has more than one verse and a lot of them are similar bits and pieces of other songs.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 04:28 PM

Stew,

I believe Little Satchell comes from a Fred Cockerham recording, down around Mount Airy/Round Peak, North Carolina. It's quite possible there is an earlier version it's just that I am not aware of one. There is also a nice version by a male singer on a Tara Nevins CD. If you have trouble locating them I'll go through my shelves and get the label numbers for you.
I did copy out the words too with the intention of learning it.

Too many songs, too little time.

Hoot


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 05:51 PM

Sorry, I goofed. Ignore the reference to Tara Nevins although it is a good album and includes the singer that I was thinking about. Just checked my shelves. The CD is "If I Go Ten Thousand Miles" by Dirk Powell Rounder CD 0384. The singer/gtr player is Jim Miller accompanied by Powell on clawhammer banjo, a great version of Little Satchell and a really nice CD.

Hoot


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:20 PM

I found the song on a New Lost City Ramblers CD called Vol. II, 1963-1973: Out Standing In Their Field (Smithsonian Folkways CD40040). The notes say that the source for the song was a recording of the song by Fred Cockerham on County Records. The Cockerham recording is available on a Rounder CD called High Atmosphere, which is probably somewhere in this room where I sit typing...

Here are the notes from the NLCR CD:
    Within then years of the NLCR's first performances, young musicians and scholars stimulated by their example were seeking out and documenting contemporary old-time musicians such as Fred Cockerham, whose banjo-accompanied solo performance of "Little Satchel" is one of the treasures recorded during the revival. The song is Fred's own compilation of and elaboration upon lines and images from the "Silver Dagger"/"Katy Dear" family of ballads. The Ramblers have created an entirely new setting for Tracy's (Tracy Schwartz's) high lonesome vocal performance, combining clawhammer and finger-picked banjo in the complementary double-banjo style of early bluegrass musicians Happy Smith and Larry Richardson.
The CD does not have printed lyrics, and I'm having trouble understanding what I hear. I may post an attempt at a transcription later - it's quite a bit different from the lyrics in the Digital Tradition.
Who knows, I may even find the shelf where the Cockerham recording is hiding.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: Stewie
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:34 PM

Joe, the booklet accompanying 'High Atmosphere' does not contain lyrics. The note to the song, however, reiterates that it is a Cokerham original in the form of a conflation of elements from 'Katie Dear/Silver Dagger' etc.

--Stewie.


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Subject: ADD Version: Little Satchel
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 02:28 AM

Stewie, I thought that by this time, you'd have a transcription posted. You're better at this than I am. Here's my effort:

    LITTLE SATCHEL
    (Fred Cockerham, Low Gap, NC)
    [recorded by John Cohen in November, 1965]

    Under my bed you can set your little satchel
    On my head you can rest your hand
    If you be my little darlin'
    I will be your little love man

    Little girl, go ask your mama
    A bride of mine will you ever be
    If she says no, come back and tell me
    I will wait till you get free

    Oh, when you're free, then we will get married
    Look how happy then we'll be
    Then we'll go to California
    Settle down and live at home

    I wish I were a little sparrow
    And I had new wings to fly
    I'd fly back to the arms of my darling
    Weep and moan until I die*

    As you see I'm no little sparrow
    Neither have the wings to fly
    I'll go home all broken hearted
    Weep and moan until I die

    transcribed by ear from the Rounder CD, High Atmosphere


*I'm really unsure of this line - it could be anything.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 05:57 PM

I know that there is a great solo recording of 'Little Satchel' by a young man name Riley Baugus who I believe is from North Carolina. His album is called 'Life of Riley'. Check it out


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: GLoux
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 08:06 PM

The Jim Miller/Dirk Powell recording of Fred Cockerham's Little Satchel is quite "refined" in comparison with Fred's version...a very special recording. Riley's version is a bit rougher...somewhere in between the two versions.

-Greg


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: Stewie
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 08:06 PM

Joe, re Cockerham's rendition, there are a couple of places where I hear something slightly different from you. I hear the first stanza as:

Under my bed you can set your little satchel
On my head you lay your hand
If you be my little darlin'
I will be your little man

I don't think the word 'love' occurs in the final line of the stanza.

Stanza 2, line 2, I hear: 'A bride of mine may ever be'

Stanza 3, line 1, I hear another 'oh' before 'then'

Stanza 3, line 3, Cockerham sings 'Californ-y', not 'California'

I hear the final lines of the last two stanzas as: 'Weep and moan till I die'. 'Till' rather than 'until'. The way he pronounces 'moan', it could be 'mourn', but 'moan' would seem more appropriate.

My favourite rendition of this song is by Jim Miller on Dirk Powell's album 'If I go ten thousand miles' Rounder CD 0384. Miller is backed by Powell on banjo and Tim O'Brien on guitar. Lovely!

--Stewie.


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Subject: Little Satchel - Cockerham, Down to the Cider Mill
From: GUEST,RoberM
Date: 27 Feb 11 - 08:01 AM

I know this is an old thread, but I thought
I should add the other version by Fred Cockerham
on the County LP & CD 'Down to the Cider Mill.

For the record: the banjo tuning used is
one fret higher than the Round Peak 'Tumblin Gap
tuning: from 5th to first: F#BEAD with Capo 3rd fret
or ADGCF on fretless (not a recommended tuning to test
with all types strings and banjos).

The lyrics (with help from the other posts by Stewie and Joe Offer and from the County Album, 1968 'Down to the Cider Mill'):

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Little Satchel (Sparrow)

Under my bed you will set your little satchel
On my head you lay your little hand
If you be my little darlin'
I will be your lovin' little man

Go to your house and ask your mama
A bride of mine (you*) may ever be
If she says no, come back and tell me
I will wait 'til you get free.

Oh, when you get free then we will get married
Look how happy then we'll be (we will*)
Then we'll go to Californ-ay
Any place you wanna go

Or we go to Alabama
Settle down and live at home

(Solo)

I wish I was a little sparrow
And I had new wings to fly
I'd fly back to the arms of my darlin'
I'd not breathe until I'd die (*?)

As you (can) see I'm no little sparrow
Neither have the wings to fly
I'll go home all broken-hearted
Weep and moan 'til I'd die.

(Ending)

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Those words in brackets I didn't hear him
sing out entirely, but they seem to be
there for some reason.

The line (*?): I'd not breath(e) until I'd die',
seems to make little sense, but seems also quite
close to the words he's actually singing.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: GUEST,RoberM
Date: 27 Feb 11 - 08:23 AM

I got another idea here:

I'd "adhere" until I'd die. Adhere means among other things "remain devoted to".

Maybe something like that.


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Subject: Little Satchel - Fred Cockerham
From: GUEST,RoberM
Date: 27 Feb 11 - 04:20 PM

The verse would now be:

I wish I was a little sparrow
And I had new wings to fly
I'd fly back to the arms of my darlin'
"I'd (adhere) until I'd die".


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: 12-stringer
Date: 27 Feb 11 - 05:28 PM

Probably it's "had two wings," rather than "had new wings."

The last line of the stanza is almost certainly
"Light on her breast and there I would die."

"Light" is used in hillbilly dialect to mean "land" or "come down." With an exclamation point, it's a sharp command, usually addressed to restless kids who are running around and making lots of distracting noise. "Light!" means "Sit down and be quieter!" (It's possible he's saying "Right" instead of "Light," but it sounds more like the latter to me.)

Roscoe Holcomb sings the comparable lines

"I'd light by the side of my own true lover
And there I'd sit until the day I die."

He starts the next verse
"I'd light up in some weeping willow,
Weep for weeks and months and years ... "


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Subject: RE: Origins: Little Satchel
From: GUEST,RoberM
Date: 05 Mar 11 - 06:53 AM

Great! I didn't have that reference, but I can't edit my post so perhaps I should add Cockerham's lyrics to Little Satchel in a separate thread in a "correct" version?


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