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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 14 Aug 04 - 06:39 PM New around here, eh Guest 12:20? Here you go, the Mudcat Royals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: mg Date: 14 Aug 04 - 12:40 PM as my father used to say, why should America (insert your country here) tremble. It is like a supermarket. Buy what you want and leave the rest. No one is shoving it down your throat. The world has so many problems that we shouldn't waste energy on non-problems that in this case are really solutions to real problems. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 14 Aug 04 - 12:20 PM "Mudcat royals. What is that all about. Define your terms? Who are you talking about? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 10:08 PM I'll wait for you to go first. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 09:39 PM If you have anything intelligent to add go ahead. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, grasshopper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 07:56 PM Well, excuuuuuuse meeeee! ;-) Does this mean we're going to have review the origins of "May the road rise to meet you" too? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 07:42 PM Actually Guest 7:19 PM - the Serenity prayer predates AA by many, many years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 07:19 PM Apparently you haven't made the mistake of stepping into the gay marriage thread of late, have you? It's gone SO FAR BEYOND any of what's covered in the ripped off from AA prayer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: The Shambles Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:45 PM Grant our members and guests the serenity to accept the things they cannot change - the courage to change the things they can - and the wisdom to realise that this is a forum open to the public and that they have no control over the posts and ideas of others. AMEN To The Mudcat Prayer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: beardedbruce Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:15 PM Ever read "The nine Billion Names of God"? true cut and paste... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:13 PM I've often wondered whether the gods respond to copy-paste multiple prayers... -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:58 PM "If you cannot conceive of it; then I will not waste your time to explain it." THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! (except I note you immediately did the exact opposite in the remainder of your post). Well, I guess god ain't finished with y'all yet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Two_bears Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:51 PM The prayer-chain stuff is different. I just cannot conceive what kind of a god or gods would affect the course of illnesses, If you cannot conceive of it; then I will not waste your time to explain it. I find it deeply disturbing that gullibe people are beguiled into believing such tosh and though I have no right to object when just because you do not understand it; does not mean the people who believe it are gullible. liabilities, loyalties etc, to each other and not to supernatural phenomena operating out of the nether regions, far distant planets or wherever else the gods are supposed to be. Just because you do not experience supernatural phenomena does not mean that everyone else does not experience supernatural phenomena. I have experienced lots of supernatural phenomena during my life. Incidentally, Two Bears reminded me of a pal who was knocked out by a massive heart attack. His next awareness of consciousness was looking down on himself surrounded by nedics wh owere screaming Your friend did not have an OBE as I did. I was simply lying there meditating when I heard a soft pop in my chest and found myself near the ceiling looking down at my own body. It sounds as if your friend had a NDE (Near Death Experience). ANL -2B |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: The Shambles Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:43 PM No Joe I am not your poor ex-wife. It is even worse than that. - I am now one of your volunteers - as of yesterday - this is now official, remember? OK, Shambles, you are hereby appointed to the exalted position of Thread Renaming and Editorial Action Consultation Coordinator. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:38 PM See now Wesley, that's an excellent example of showing no regard for others. People have mentioned specifically that they find refences to deities offensive. Your quote would have been equally valid without the salutation. You do that on purpose? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:37 PM Praise the lord and pass the ammunition. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Wesley S Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:32 PM God - Grant our members and guests the serenity to accept the things they cannot change - the courage to change the things they can - and the wisdom to realise that this is a forum open to the public and that they have no control over the posts and ideas of others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Blackcatter Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:29 PM It's the 13th too. :) By the way, I stopped posting in the gay thread becasue I suddenly received some 200 emails from a Yahoo email id that was entitled "bcwilldiesoon" (Blackcatter will die soon). Each one contained a possible virus or trojan horse and the message: "You fag lover. you and all fag will die soon." I was surprised that someone found my email, but really it isn't hidden and could be found with a bit of looking. It's a shame, however. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:18 PM LOL! I love Fridays on the 'cat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Wesley S Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:17 PM S stands for Smith. It's a name. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:13 PM You know, sometimes I get the spooky feeling that Shambles is stalking me, monitoring my every word to find things to quote out of context. Then this morning, I came to the realization that Shambles must be my ex-wife. Oh, woe is me! -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:01 PM Thanks for noticing. Life is pretty damn good, actually. It could be even better though, if people here began to do onto one another as they would have other do unto their own bad selves, though. Don't you agree Wesley? (BTW, does the "S" stand for snipe? snide? sweetness and light?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Wesley S Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:43 PM Life must be pretty damn good if this is important enough to complain about. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:38 PM The point that community action could change the dynamic everyone bitches about it well taken. I hereby agree to stop complaining about prayer/hugs/therapy threads AND the website problems. I will accept the forum "as is". Now, how many Mudcat members will agree to call out anyone, member or guest, from here on out, when they witness abusive and OTT flaming of another poster, in music and/or BS sections? How many of you will, from this point on, promise (and actually stick to it) to call abusive posters on their negative behavior, whenever and from whomever they witness it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:24 PM Thank you for taking time out of your busy life to share. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: The Shambles Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:23 PM It may be that the general current of nastiness should be handled by community action, not by editing. Did Joe Offer really say that? Is there really hope? It is the example given of encouraging posters to complain and request editing action to be imposed upon the contributions of others by unknown volunteers that is the largest single factor in what Joe describes as 'nastiness'. There is sadly a need for most of us to feel that we have the right to mind everyone else's business and this less than endearing aspect is currently being encouraged to shape our forum - rather than to shape it only, by the encouragement of positive contributions. All the tools are now in place to enable everyone to have their say and for everyone to reply or to ignore anything they do not care for. The need for us to judge is still strong but I feel that the idea that editing action should be imposed upon other posters, based on that judgement, is not one that should be encouraged or tolerated by us any more. If requests for editing action were to be limited to encouraging only those of changes to our own contributions - it would be at least a step in the right direction. Those that do not like the current shape of the forum and wish to ask it to be changed by editing action or those that wish to volunteer to judge the worth and impose changes upon their fellow contributors always have the choice of leaving the forum to those who like it just as it is...... It would be nice too if Joe made the choice between contributing as either a member of the community (in black), or in brown. To do both and expect that this is not going to inhibit posters, is misguided if (probably) well-intentioned. The lack of birthday threads and the wary and jokey approach in the few that do now appear (in the BS section) is rather proof of the inhibiting nature of this. One can understand why one would wish to both run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, but this attempt is always rather doomed. There is now plenty of room for all the non-music subjects without having any effect on the music related ones - that is pretty much it. Let us not keep on fighting the same battles over and over and just finally accept the forum for what it is and not what we ideally think it should be changed to.....Toleration once was encouraged, perhaps it can still be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST,Guest #3 Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:11 PM I think some of you folks have WAY TOO MUCH time on your hands and that goes for both sides of this "discussion." |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 04 - 03:54 PM Not wanting to change the subject matter of the thread here, but... It would be very helpful if ALL Mudcat members could take on board that some regular Mudcat posters choose to post anon for our own personal reasons, which are not to be rude and inflammatory to those who don't like anon posting. Which, btw, isn't everyone on the planet, or even the planet Mudcat. It is possible to post anonymously most everywhere on the net, with certain types of email accounts that route messages through numerous servers that aren't easy to trace. That is a gross oversimplificiation of how people can remain anonymous posting on the net, but let's just say for the level of knowledge about the internet of most Mudcat posters, that explanation of how people are posting anonymously do it, suffice for now. That may well include people that are known here by one or more names and email accounts. Some of us have our reasons for posting anon. We don't owe anyone explanations for why we choose to do it. Refusing to accept that is the cause of much of the rancorous abuse in this forum. In the big scheme of things, it really doesn't matter anyway. It is only ever an issue, when someone chooses to responded to anonymous posts differently than they do posts that have a name in the FROM line. Which is pretty destructive in the long haul, as those who have been around Mudcat for long enough can attest to--even the members who routinely engage in what is becoming ritualized, reactionary abuse of anonymous posters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 13 Aug 04 - 01:25 PM Good post. Bright lad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:54 PM To deal with a point made by Blackcatter, I am as irritated as anyone else when a guest declines to use any identifying handle that would allow us to distinguish one guest from another. But whether the guest gets my respect depends on what he or she says. The one who started this thread seems to have held to a commendably reasonable tone and put perfectly reasonable arguments, sometimes in the face of gratuitous abuse. The consistency of voice persuades me that with the exception of only one or two posts, we have been hearing from one guest throughout. I would just midly question this guest's reading of the Rick Fielding threads. As for the topic under discussion, I can see that so-called hugging threads may bring comfort to some people. They do nothing for me, but I am happy to avoid them, or butt out if I stumble into one. The prayer-chain stuff is different. I just cannot conceive what kind of a god or gods would affect the course of illnesses, exam results, survival in combat etc, according to how many people can be marshalled into offering prayers. If there are indeed such gods, then they don't deserve the time of day, and for that attitude I'm happy to take my chances in eternity. I find it deeply disturbing that gullibe people are beguiled into believing such tosh and though I have no right to object when such threads appear, I feel entitled to challenge such beliefs wherever they are manifested. This world would be a better place if the people who live in it confined their responsibilities, liabilities, loyalties etc, to each other and not to supernatural phenomena operating out of the nether regions, far distant planets or wherever else the gods are supposed to be. Incidentally, Two Bears reminded me of a pal who was knocked out by a massive heart attack. His next awareness of consciousness was looking down on himself surrounded by nedics wh owere screaming orders at each other in near panic, then standing back like a Ferrari pit team while huge bolts of electricity jolted his heart back to action. When he was recovered he recounted all this in a state of near ecstacy. The cause of his joy was that even in the very face of death there had been no backsliding towards any kind of religion. The fact that he seemed to have been viewing his own body from beyond it he put down to his own lively imagination. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Wolfgang Date: 13 Aug 04 - 11:24 AM those unenlighened people (Two Bears) I am under the mistaken impression that I have been kind and considerate. (Two Bears) I guess I have to agree with you here, Two Bears. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Ellenpoly Date: 13 Aug 04 - 04:12 AM Just a couple of things if I may. I haven't been around long enough to know what Mudcat used to be like, but I do know that in just the past few months I've noticed a growing sense of anger and abuse on many of the BS threads. Perhaps this is why people both start and post to threads of a more gentle nature as the prayer/healing threads seem to offer. I'm not at all religious, but I've also found myself posting at threads that seem to be offering up a person's pain, either their own, or someone/thing else's. Why? Because for me to sympathize, and on many occasions empathize with another helps me as well. I think it keeps me connected to my own pain and frailties. Especially when one is confronted in some threads with such negativity. So for me, it's kind of an attempt, conscious or unconscious- to keep some kind of balance here between those two extremes. I do miss the more intellligent threads which try to stick to a subject and follow it through, no matter what they are about. (And a PS, I once pm'd Joe Offer about something and his response was extremely rapid. I agree that if you really have a problem here or take offense to something someone has posted, let him know this way.) ..xx..e |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST,another one Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:06 AM Dear Guest, you have a CHOICE! Don't fucking read the threads if they bother you! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Marion Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:49 PM Joe, you've asked that we point out objectionable messages to you privately rather than in the help forum. I'm reluctant to do so because of the timing problem. I figure that if a post can do harm, it does more harm the longer it's up. If it's taken care of promptly, there's less opportunity for a visitor to Mudcat to see it and decide this isn't a nice place, or for a member with better intentions than self-control to take the bait. A thread in the help forum will probably be seen by somebody with a delete button in less than an hour - maybe much less. But a PM to you might not get read for a long time, if you're asleep, or away for the weekend. Marion
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Joe Offer Date: 12 Aug 04 - 09:17 PM Well, recent prayer/hug/bless-my-dead-cat/birthday threads haven't gotten to the point that they annoy me, so I've kept my mouth shut. It's much easier to tolerate them, now that they're not constantly at the top of the Forum Menu. I still think they're incredibly tedious, and that they cheapen the whole idea of prayer and support because they're as repetitive and mindless as Spam and chain letters. Still, we never have done anything to control or edit that sort of thread, and I hope we never will. But I reserve the right to complain - after all, I'm a member of this community, too. The personal attack threads have gotten out of hand, and I don't like them at all. There are a good number of regular Mudcatters who frequently engage in combat in these threads. When it's an occasional occurrence, it's easy enough to deal with. That's not the case any more. The Whitby-Glaisdale Trip thread is a good example. There's so much crap mixed in, that I can't delete the objectionable stuff without wasting two hours of my time and destroying the flow of the discussion in the process. That kind of thread poisons the atmosphere around here. We've deleted or closed some of the worst of them, but there are too many regular Mudcatters engaging in combat nowadays, so the situation is well-nigh impossible to control. And if we delete or close a thread, there's always some pain-in-the ass who will make a big stink about it. If you have objections to a message or a thread, please contact me or Jeff privately. I suppose I'm the best person to contact right now because I seem to be around most often. Please do not post complaints about threads or messages in the Forum or the Help Forum , because all you do is call attention to the problem and turn it into a general brawl. If you talk with us quietly about the problem, maybe we'll be able to deal with it quietly. It may be that the general current of nastiness should be handled by community action, not by editing. If you know somebody who is out of line, tell them so. Ostracism might be another solution - acting as if an objectionable post didn't exist, can be a very effective form of ostracism, but I don't think this community can maintin the discipline of silence needed to do that. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:51 PM GUEST : pm me please I have something for you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: kendall Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:47 PM ...and baby bear said "My porridge is too hot" ...and Poppa bear said "My porridge is too cold." and Momma bear said "Bitch, bitch bitch.." |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Two_bears Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:46 PM For being such a supposedly loving, prayerful bunch, you prayer advocates don't seem to be able to practice what you preach very well. In fact, some of you are so downright vengeful and nasty, I can't imagine who in their right minds would want your ilk praying for them anyway. For a group of loving Christians, you all are pretty mean I have several things for you to consider. 1. I don't preach. 2. I am NOT Christian. I am a devout pagan. 3. It is not right to judge everyone by the actions of a few. Would you document where I have been vengeful and nasty in this thread? I guess I am under the mistaken impression that I have been kind and considerate. 4. There have been many people asked me to pray for them. I have been working as an energy healer since 1997. ANL - 2B |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Two_bears Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:38 PM Two Bears - adn BPL - please be careful you may just turn this stupid thread started by a troll into something meaningful. We wouldn't want that to happen :) That would be the worst thing that could happen. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:33 PM For being such a supposedly loving, prayerful bunch, you prayer advocates don't seem to be able to practice what you preach very well. In fact, some of you are so downright vengeful and nasty, I can't imagine who in their right minds would want your ilk praying for them anyway. For a group of loving Christians, you all are pretty mean. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Blackcatter Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:19 PM Two Bears - adn BPL - please be careful you may just turn this stupid thread started by a troll into something meaningful. We wouldn't want that to happen :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:17 PM I give up. The prayer people win. End of discussion from me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Two_bears Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:16 PM I will AGREE that science does not PROVIDE all the answers, I will not be manipulated into any admission as though I had tried to perpetrate something dishonest. Science simply means knowledge. It has not the capacity to know anything. I was not trying to manipulate you in any way. You were going to test this spiritual technology, and you were going to decide for yourself whether this spiritual technology either works or it doesn't. How is it manipulation to let YOU be the judge, jury, and prosecutor whether this works. How is praying as a test dishonest? No, I won't be doing this. But as you're already expert in it why don't you do it for me? Pray for something to occur that we could both agree would not occur without your intersession. You missed the point? I KNOW this spiritual technology works. You are the one who disbelieves. Remember? Anything reasonable, you can even get a third party to act on my behalf as you've already decided I have a closed mind. Let's see how that works You misunderstand the spiritual laws. I have the right to affect myself. You can test this for yourself or ignore my request. ANL - 2B |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Two_bears Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:05 PM Please don't misunderstand, Two Bears and others. This isn't about whether I approve of anyone's beliefs. It is about whether or not these sorts of uses of the forum is appropriate, considering how strong peoples' feelings are about this. Excuse me; but what is wrong with freedom, and allowing everyone to talk about whatever they want to talk about; then you ignore the threads you are NOT interested in? That's what I do. Many of the people who have posted to this thread defend their right to use the forum for prayer/hug/therapy threads, regardless of the bitterness and rancor it can cause. That is why a nifty, elegant solution, which I have referred to a number of times in this thread, but the pro-prayer folks keep ignoring, was worked out years ago. Excuse me (again) but the only bitterness and rancor I have seen is from you and others that want to quash the freedom of those they disagree with. here. It was such a dividing issue, people decided that in the best interest of all forum users, the best solution was to use the PMs, email list and the Mudcat annex for the prayer/hug/therapy threads. Excuse me (for the third time); but how the heck are those of us (wanting to discuss this material) supposed yo find the others wanting to discuss this material with one another? I'm not looking to start up the war again. I'm just wondering why the prayer threads are back, after quite a long absence, and if people are planning on keeping them here instead of in the PM/email/Mudcat annex realm. I am not wanting to start a war either. I just do not want some self appointed dictator stating what we can and can not discuss. ANL -2B |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 12 Aug 04 - 06:39 PM This is off topic, and I apologise, just replying to something (equally off topic) earlier from Two Bears. I won't do it again -- honest. I want to ask you to do two things BPL. 1: Would you admit that science does NOT have all of the answers? I will AGREE that science does not PROVIDE all the answers, I will not be manipulated into any admission as though I had tried to perpetrate something dishonest. Science simply means knowledge. It has not the capacity to know anything. 2. Would you read my website huna and test this spiritual technology for yourself? I am not asking you to do anything other than test this spiritual technology with an open mind "This stuff COULD be real" then after a fair test make up your own mind "This technology works" or "Two Bears is losing his grip on reality". No, I won't be doing this. But as you're already expert in it why don't you do it for me? Pray for something to occur that we could both agree would not occur without your intersession. Anything reasonable, you can even get a third party to act on my behalf as you've already decided I have a closed mind. Let's see how that works. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: PoppaGator Date: 12 Aug 04 - 06:07 PM GUEST, what in the world is your problem? If you don't like a particular type of discussion, don't participate -- don't even read it. Every individual member (and non-member, and member-pretending-not-to-be-a-member, like you) has a different set of beliefs and a different attitude towards this forum and what it "should" be. So be it! None of us, as an individual, can change this fact, anyway. So, read the threads whose titles indicate a subject in which you're interested, and skip the others. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you can dig it, dig it; if you can't dig it, don't dig it! I wish I could take my own advice in this regard, of course. I'm ashamed of how many minutes and hours I waste reading through these inane back-and-forth name-calling sessions. It's pretty much like watching a train wreck; I can't not look. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: CarolC Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:58 PM That is why a nifty, elegant solution, which I have referred to a number of times in this thread, but the pro-prayer folks keep ignoring, was worked out years ago. That was before the Top/Bottom split. I think the forum has a different dynamic now because of that split, and we don't see flame wars over threads like those any more, with the exception of this thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST,Norton1 Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:55 PM Well GUEST - It appears that the only consensus you've seen is one from Sorcha dated a while back. And the Cat will do whatever it wants to as long as the owner tolerates it. End of story Bro - |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: GUEST Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:44 PM Please don't misunderstand, Two Bears and others. This isn't about whether I approve of anyone's beliefs. It is about whether or not these sorts of uses of the forum is appropriate, considering how strong peoples' feelings are about this. Max feels one way, Joe Offer another. Many of the people who have posted to this thread defend their right to use the forum for prayer/hug/therapy threads, regardless of the bitterness and rancor it can cause. That is why a nifty, elegant solution, which I have referred to a number of times in this thread, but the pro-prayer folks keep ignoring, was worked out years ago. It was worked out as a way to show some consideration for the forum, not one or side or the other in the debate over whether it belonged here. It was such a dividing issue, people decided that in the best interest of all forum users, the best solution was to use the PMs, email list and the Mudcat annex for the prayer/hug/therapy threads. It was really nice that those who favor using Mudcat for their prayer chains, healing circles, etc. did that for the sake of the forum. It just seems to me there has been some slippage on it recently. I'm not looking to start up the war again. I'm just wondering why the prayer threads are back, after quite a long absence, and if people are planning on keeping them here instead of in the PM/email/Mudcat annex realm. If I know that is what is going on, then I can act accordingly, and so can others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's with all the prayer/hug threads? From: Two_bears Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:45 PM Wolfgang: Fumble fingers strikes again. Here is what part 2 was supposed to say. 2. Some of them have a higher opinion of themself than they should, and in blanket statements instruct the people to throw their life sustaining medication away "Because you don't need it any more". My appologies for the typos. ANL - 2B |
