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BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time

The Shambles 26 Aug 04 - 10:38 AM
Amos 26 Aug 04 - 10:43 AM
Wolfgang 26 Aug 04 - 10:52 AM
Bill D 26 Aug 04 - 11:00 AM
pdq 26 Aug 04 - 11:01 AM
Once Famous 26 Aug 04 - 11:28 AM
DMcG 26 Aug 04 - 11:30 AM
Wolfgang 26 Aug 04 - 11:30 AM
The Shambles 26 Aug 04 - 11:36 AM
Bill D 26 Aug 04 - 11:37 AM
Wolfgang 26 Aug 04 - 11:41 AM
John MacKenzie 26 Aug 04 - 11:49 AM
khandu 26 Aug 04 - 12:05 PM
dunkel_esel 26 Aug 04 - 12:07 PM
Amergin 26 Aug 04 - 12:08 PM
The Shambles 26 Aug 04 - 12:26 PM
s&r 26 Aug 04 - 12:31 PM
Wolfgang 26 Aug 04 - 12:35 PM
Ebbie 26 Aug 04 - 12:49 PM
The Shambles 26 Aug 04 - 01:06 PM
GUEST,amergin 26 Aug 04 - 01:09 PM
Wolfgang 26 Aug 04 - 01:13 PM
GUEST 26 Aug 04 - 01:16 PM
Wolfgang 26 Aug 04 - 01:27 PM
GUEST,Larry K 26 Aug 04 - 01:31 PM
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Bill D 26 Aug 04 - 01:48 PM
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Subject: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 10:38 AM

When folk have trouble with others parking across their driveways and paint the road or put up big signs saying 'IN CONSTANT USE'.

Well, if it was, no one would be able to park there.........


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Amos
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 10:43 AM

Wonderful thread title, I must say, Roger.
In recent history, "I did not have sex witht hat owman" comes to mind. Right up there with "We know where the weapons of mass destruction are - they are north and south of Tikrit and also east and west of there....".

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 10:52 AM

Why was my thread closed twice? (Shambles)

Well if it would have been your thread it couldn't have been closed, could it?




Yes, I know it was only a short way of expressing something a bit more complicated and thread titles only take so many letters, but I just try to imagine how long the road sign should have been to avoid the label 'lie'.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:00 AM

which makes those clever thousand word 'disclaimers' people sometimes post even funnier, Wolfgang.

(I remember when I was in college, complaining that "I don't have time to write a short paper."


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: pdq
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:01 AM

"This will hurt me more than it hurts you!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Once Famous
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:28 AM

"The money part of it means nothing to me"

"But she has a nice personality."


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:30 AM

The old British Rail Timetables used to come with a very thick copy of the rules and regulations. My favourite was that their selling to a ticket between two stations could not be construed as indicating that they ran trains between those stations. Nor, indeed, that they had ever run trains between them. Or planned to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:30 AM

Bill, I know. It is awfully difficult to find the balance between being short and absolutely precise. I suffer from that (not too much) each time I have formulated a task for the students. Nearly each time someone with a bad grade comes to me and tells me that my formulation was not precise enough and therefore there is a possible reading which would make his response correct.

Once I got so fed up with these complaints that just for the fun of it I spelled all assumptions, even the trivial ones, in a task involving probabilities. I not just wrote 'fair dice' which usually to everybody is an acceptable expression, I wrote 'fair dice which has not been rolled previously and is replaced after each roll by another fair dice and is rolled by a person without the ability to roll a dice in a way to make a certain result more probable...".

My formulation was less ambiguous than before but also less easy to understand. I did get less correct solutions.

It is sometimes just fun to read what people actually have written and not what we know they have meant (and that's how I understand this thread here), but if you go for that game (finding a possible ambiguity in someone else's posts) with a serious intention then the fun stops. But as I said this is a fun thread.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:36 AM

Wolfgang, I did think hard and long about Why was my thread closed twice?

If I had titled it 'Why was 'this' thread closed twice?' someone would (even possibly you) could have pointed out that if I was not the originator it was not 'my' thread, and that I should mind my own business. As you may know I am trying to encourage folk to request editing only to their own contributions.

But are you saying that if it were not my thread it was the thread of the person who decided to close it twice? But you are rather making my point for me. The creator usually gets credited with some form of ownership or possibly respect.

Perhaps not now on our forum. Perhaps here the editor now think they own every contibution or at least everything that they do not choose to delete?

Not too sure if my thread title really was a lie. If not a complete explanation saying something is in constant use when it clearly is not- is a lie. I will expect Kevin will post now to continue the definitions of open and closed, maintaining that they are not mutually exclusive.....

And there I was thinking that I would start a 'fun' thread for a change..........


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:37 AM

so, in the spirit of the thread...

"...your call is very important to us. Please hold and the next available representative will be with you shortly."


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:41 AM

"Eat children" was the title of a course offered in parent education. "Eat, children" was what was meant.

"Sorry, no vacancies" (they should be glad when are fully booked)

"sheep crossing" (when I see sheep crossing I don't need the sign; when I don't see animals it is a 'lie')

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:49 AM

Of course I love you.

Your cheque's in the post

etc....Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: khandu
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 12:05 PM

"I am not a crook"- Richard Nixon
"Not Guilty" - The OJ Simpson jury

k


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: dunkel_esel
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 12:07 PM

parents say

'...this is for your own good...'

It never is.

mj


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Amergin
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 12:08 PM

Khandu...that last is not really a lie...OJ was not guilty that he killed those two people...


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 12:26 PM

One for Bill D.

Signs in record stores, that say Folk Music.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: s&r
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 12:31 PM

Of course I trust you


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 12:35 PM

Who fears to speak of '98? (first published anonymously)

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 12:49 PM

Amergin, I don't follow. Do you mean that OJ was not guilty because the jury found him 'not guilty'? If no one saw me take the last cookie, I am still guilty of taking the last cookie, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:06 PM

"I'm speechless!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:09 PM

Ebbie, no i meant that OJ murdered them...but didn't feel guilty about it....so in essence he was Not Guilty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:13 PM

I will keep this in mind.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:16 PM

"I wont come in your mouth"


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:27 PM

The members of the politbureau of the GDR singing at the opening of a congress:
Wir sind die junge Garde des Proletariats (We are the young guard of the proletariat)

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:31 PM

Being a marketing person I hate "This space left intentionally blank" - how can it be blank with writing on it

The biggest lie of all time is in construction zones with the sign "Men Working" - if they were working they would have fixed the damn problem already.

You can't have a topic about lying without the Clintons.   Bill- I didn't inhale, and Hillary saying Monica was a right wing conspiracy are just two of the many to choose from.

On the silly side- Yogi Berra was a master of the mis statement- nobody goes there anymore because its too crowded.    Do you want to go on a trip around the world- No I'd rather go somewhere else.

But the award for the best liar of all times must go to Bagdad Bob- How quickly we forget.    "We are winning the war" ignore those bombs dropping beside me.   There are no american solders anywhere near Bagdad. etc etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Alba
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:35 PM

" it's not you, it's me, can we be Friends as I value our Friendship but I am not ready for a relationship right now"......(reponse: as my fingers go down the throat in Vomit pose lol)
Jude


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:44 PM

Well, we don't usually do requests.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:48 PM

"folk music"...indeed, Shambles! *grin*...not a complete lie, as some of it might be...but...


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: khandu
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 03:12 PM

"No-Spin Zone" - Bill O'Reilly

k


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 04:00 PM

The Magic Bullet


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 04:23 PM

I hope you don't think I do this with everybody!
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 04:32 PM

You're the best.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 06:35 PM

Bush was elected.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 06:58 AM

Well, I think that is a very good question and I am glad that you asked me that..........


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Gervase
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 09:07 AM

Politician: "With the greatest respect..."
Ditto: "It's not about politics."
Dog owner: "He's usually very good."
And - in her eyes - any answer to the question: "Are you sure I look OK in this, darling?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 03:25 PM

"Needless to say...."
(If you truly believe it's needless to say, why are you saying it?)

"With all due respect, Senator...."


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 03:26 PM

"If I am elected . . . . "


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 03:28 PM

"I did NOT have sex with Monica."


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 07:09 PM

We did not trade guns for hostages.

We are winning the war in VietNam.

Oswald acted alone.

I am not a crook.

Clarence Thomas is the best man for the job.

Spaw - with a thanks to Bill Maher


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 07:00 AM

I don't mind citicism - if it is constructive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: pdq
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 01:52 PM

With some people

                                 "just be yourself"

is the worst possible advice you could give them!


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 07:04 PM

"This is going to hurt me more . . . ."


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: khandu
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 07:33 PM

"God speaks through me!" Reverends Peter Popoff, Jerry Falwell, Rod Parsley, Robert Tilton, et al

k


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 09:01 PM

"The dog farted"


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Subject: A BREATH OF FRESH AIR !!
From: khandu
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 10:38 PM

My farts don't stink


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Subject: RE: BS: Great and not so great, lies of our time
From: GUEST,Tang The Orangutan
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 12:13 AM

The government should stay out of people's bedrooms.

Of course that only speaks for people who are sleeping with other people. It speaks nothing to the great prejudice one receives when they date outside their species. I am ashamed at these so-called liberals. How come they never speak up for those of us who are not human?


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