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Subject: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Willa Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:09 PM This song has been mentioned on the 'Violence to Women' thread. I was surprised not to find it in the DT, though it may be there by some other name. The version I sing (from a Peggy Seeger book, but I can't remember the title), is: ^^ Must I be bound and you go free? Must I love one who ne'er loved me? Why should I act such a childish part, to love a lad who would break my heart? The first thing that my love gave me, it was a cap well lined with lead. The longer that I wore that cap, it grew the heavier on my head. And next he bought me a gown to wear, with sorrow stitched and lined with fear. And the drink he gave me was bitter gall, but the blows he gave me were worse than all. The third thing that my lad gave me, it was a belt with colours three. The first was sorrow, the next was shame and the third it was sweet misery. But I shall gain my liberty and I shall climb a higher tree And I shall find a richer nest and be with one I may love best. Can't do ABC format, but it's in G, and the notes are (Those in lower case are below middle C) bCDCbafaabb bCDCDEFEF bCDCDEDEFEF FEDCbafaabb |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Herga Kitty Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:40 PM "Must I be bound" was published by EFDSS in Stephen Sedley's anthology, the Seeds of Love, attributed principally to the Sam Henry collection but overlaps with "Deep in Love" - also published by EFDSS in Marrow Bones, Hammond and Gardiner collection. Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: dick greenhaus Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:55 PM Words are good, but don't (IMHO) sound particularly traditional. Author? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:10 PM Sedley's notes are, as often, misleading. His collation includes only two verses deriving (modified to fit a different tune) from Sam Henry's collection (H218a): 1 and 3. Verses 2 and 4 are adapted from Christie, Traditional Ballad Airs, II, 1881, 226-7). The first and last verses are "floaters"; Must I go Bound is really a different song. This one is less often found, and generally as The Belt Wi' Colours Three (as in Christie); there is no mention of physical violence in the Scottish examples. Sedley seems to have adapted the tune from Christie, too, though (surprise...) he doesn't say. I do hope that Willa remembers the immediate source of this; it does look rather as if it's a slightly altered form of the Sedley collation rather than a genuinely traditional example, but you never can be sure without the details. I don't have time to "translate" Willa's tune indication, unfortunately, but it looks rather like Sedley's adaptation transposed. I added some background information to the last thread where Willa posted this: Must I Go Bound |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:21 PM Susanne(skw) has almost the same lyrics on her Webiste (click) - with MIDI. I wonder where she got it. I swear I've heard it, but I wonder where. I couldn't find it in my Peggy Seeger songbooks. -Joe Offer- Here is the listing from folktrax.org, which, as usal, confuses me: DEEP IN LOVE - "Must I go bound or must I go free" - Overhears girl complaining about her false lover so she goes to the meadows to find a flower that will ease her mind but none does so she makes a bed of flowers - Alternative titles: APRON OF FLOWERS; PEGGY GORDON; O WALY WALY; UNFORTUNATE SWAIN; WATER IS WIDE - LAWS #P-25 ABBB 1957 p261 "Love has brought me to despair" - ROUD#60 - Cf CHILD #204 "Jamie Douglas" - GREIG-DUNCAN Coll 1995 vol 6 #1165 pp247-251 5var 12v/5m "My heart is sair" & #1156 p252 1v/m "Love it is pleasing" - BARING GOULD Ms #86 (a) Miss Octavia L hoare, Kimbolton, Cornwall (b) Mary Sackerey, Huckaby Bridge 1890 (c) Will Nichoils, Whitchurch 1891 (besides publ there are other collected versions as well as Logan, Garlands, Broadsides, Scots, Roxburgh etc) SOW #86 "A ship came sailing" Cornwall - BG-HITCHCOCK 1974 p96 "So deep in love" (as SOW) - SHARP-MARSON FSS 2 - Sel Ed 1 - Novello Schl Ser 2 - HUGHES ICS 1 1909 p68-9 "Must I go bound?" frag Co Derry 3v - HENRY SOP #218 "Johnny Johnny" (W & M versions) - JFSS 7:27 1923 p69-73 Hammond "Must I be bound" - JEFDSS 1954 p161 "The Unfortunate Swain" Article by J W Allen on "Waly Waly" with refs - REEVES IOP 1958 p38 "Waly Waly" - REEVES EC 1960 pp89-91 Hammond from Jacob Baker, Bere Regis, Dorset 1905 - PURSLOW MB 1965 p23 Hammond - BROCKLEBANK/KINDERSLEY DBFS 1966 p8 Hammond: J Pomeroy, Broadoak, Dorset "Must I be bound" - SEDLEY 1967 p160 "The Water is wide" & p125 "Must I be bound" - COPPER S&SB 1973 p219 2love" - KENNEDY FSBI 1975 p349 Copper from Gladys Stone, Fittleworth, Sussex 1954 --- COX FSS #142 "Maggie Goddon" - see also DIED FOR LOVE; DOWN IN THE MEADOWS; I AM A MAID THAT'S DEEP IN LOVE; SUMMER IS COME; WILL YE GANG, LOVE? -- Julia ADCOCK rec by PK, Watton, Norfolk 1950 7RTR-0009 "False Lover"/ 502 - Gladys STONE rec by Bob Copper, Fittleworth, Sussex 1954: RPL 22740/ 015 & 427 - Guy CARAWAN (with guitar) rec by PK London July 1957: 7"RTR-0499 "The Water is wide" - Jack LANGSTAFF (with piano): TRADITION TLP-1009 1957 "O Waly, Waly" (CJS) - Shirley COLLINS "The Ramblers" Skiffle Radio prog 1958 prod by Lomax: Ewan McCOLL, Peggy SEEGER with Bruce TURNER (clar), John COLE (harmonica) 7"RTR-0291/ CASS-30-1276 - KINGSTON TRIO: EMI T-1474 1961 "W is w" - RIPLEY WAYFARERS Derbsh: TRADITIONAL SOUND TSR-006 1971 - Cyril TAWNEY: ARGO ZFB-87 1973 Dorset (from Baring Gould) Cornwall - Sylvia MOORE Ensemble: 137 & 418 "W is w" - INN FOLK: 095 "W is w" --- Almeda RIDDLE rec by Jerry Epstein & Don Wade 1977: MINSTREL JD-203 And from the Traditional Ballad Index: Must I Go BoundDESCRIPTION: The singer laments, "Must I go bound and you go free." (S)he hears someone sing "that marriage was a pleasant thing," but "My marriage day soon turned to woe." The singer's spouse has scorned/abused the singer; the singer hopes for revengeAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1928 (Sam Henry collection) KEYWORDS: marriage abuse betrayal FOUND IN: Ireland REFERENCES (1 citation): SHenry H218a/b, p. 386, "Must I Go Bound" (2 texts, 1 tune) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "The Butcher Boy" [Laws P24] and references there cf. "My Blue-Eyed Boy" (lyrics, theme) cf. "Died for Love (I)" (theme) cf. "Yon Green Valley" (lyrics) cf. "Love Has Brought Me To Despair" [Laws P25] (lyrics) Notes: This, like "My Blue-Eyed Boy," is so close to "The Butcher Boy" that I almost listed them as one song. But where "The Butcher Boy" is relatively coherent, this is little more than a lament composed of floating verses (e.g. from "Waly Waly") and the complaint "I heard (a shepherd//fair maid) sing That marriage was a pleasant thing, [but] My (marriage/wedding) day soon turned to woe." So I've listed them separately -- but there may well be intermediate versions. For further discussion, see the notes to "The Butcher Boy." - RBW File: HHH218 Go to the Ballad Search form The Ballad Index Copyright 2004 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Susan of DT Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:23 PM Look at Waly Waly 2 and Water is Wide. Both have the Must I go bound verse as part of the Water is Wide. I remember Buffy Sainte-Marie singing it. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MUST I GO BOUND? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:26 PM With midi, also at Must I Be Bound ^^ With music, two versions in Sam Henry, one for girls, one for lads: Lyr. Add: MUST I GO BOUND? (Lad's version) Must I go bound and you go free? Must I love them that wouldn't love me? Or could I act a childish part, And go with Martha that broke my heart? One day I heard a shepherd sing That marrying was a very fine thing, But to my grief I found it so, That my marriage day soon turned to woe. The first thing that she brought me was a necktie to wear, It was lined with sorrow and bound with care, She brought me vinegar mixed with gall, And she gave me blows far worse than all. When I had money, she had part, When I had none, she had my heart, The more I wink, sure I am not blind, When she had money, it was none of mine. The fields are green and the meadows gay, The leaves are spreading on every tree, But the time will come, and then you'll see She'll be tripping upstairs with gramachree. Lad's "a retaliatory plagiarism." This version H218b, 1928 Sam Henry's Songs of the People, ed. Huntington and revised by Lani Herrmann, Univ. Georgia Press, 1990. P. 386. |
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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: MUST I GO BOUND From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:38 PM One of my early favorites:
MUST I GO BOUND
from: Something to Sing About! - The Personal Choices of America's Folk Singers Collected and arranged by Milton Okun, The Macmillan Company - Collier-Macmillan Ltd., London, 1968, p 184. "Buffy Sainte-Marie" , '…. For this collection Buffy has chosen a song of English origin, "Must I Go Bound," that has numerous versions. The poetry of the lyrics is among the most refined to found in any folk-art collection, as deft and subtle as the most polished work of a classical poet.'
Key of A 4/4
Must (A)I go bound while you go (E)free?
I put my finger to the bush
I leaned my back against an oak.
Oh, I'll go bound while you go free,
Sincerely, Click to playClick to play (Okun arrangement) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 Sep 04 - 07:02 PM The "notes" at Folktrax should be disregarded by everybody who doesn't know what they mean; they will only confuse most people, and probably shouldn't be directly quoted here. If we are to refer to every song that contains the extremely common floating verse beginning "Must I go bound", we will be here forever. The appearance of that verse in a song is not, in itself, evidence of any relationship with any other song containing the same verse. Evidence of relationship must be sought elsewhere. That's not to say that there aren't a great many fine examples of the song-group to be found, of course. The issue is what is helpful in this particular discussion. To stick, for the moment, to the song Willa posted; I may as well supplement in this new thread the comments I made in the old one. On re-examining the Belt Wi' Colours Three text in Ord's Bothy Ballads (1930), my impression is that it was probably copied from Christie with some minor editorial modifications. Christie comments on his penultimate verse (the final verse in Sedley's collation), mentioning that a similar one appeared in As I cam' down by yon Castle wa' (contributed by Burns to the Scots Musical Museum, 1792). All he has to say about his text and tune is "The Editor can trace this beautiful old Air and Ballad, through his relatives, far into the last century." That's the 18th, of course. A broadside origin isn't unlikely for that particular song. The Sam Henry example happens to have a couple of lines reminiscent of the Christie song (and which may perhaps have wandered in from it; a lot of singers read song books) and on the strength of that, Sedley drafted in some more. Whether or not that was Peggy Seeger's source, we won't know until the book is identified and any information it may contain is quoted. At the moment, my money's on Sedley. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 02 Sep 04 - 07:53 PM "Must I Go Bound" has two entries in the index of Randolph's Ozark Folksongs
(The Butcher Boy - tune is NOTHING similar to Sainte-Marie's) Vol. I, "British Ballads" p. 230 under "Butcher Boy" #45, variation G, Mr. J.C. Wasson, Elm Springs, Ark, Dec. 22, 1941, sings the final stanza thus: Must I go bound while he goes free?
variation H, A manuscript copy from Mrs. Arlie Feeman, Natural Dam, Ark, Jan 4, 1942 makes the same verse read:
Must I go bound while he goes free?
Vol. I p. 227 , fourth stanza variation B: Some additional stanza supplied by Mrs. Violet Savory Justis, Clinton, Mo., July 1, 1928:
Must I be bound while he goes free?
HOWEVER, in Randolph's Vol IV, "Religious Songs and other Items" p. 260-262, # 759, the tune is virtually identical to the one used by Sainte-Marie (two notes different) and is noted as My Blue-Eyed Boy
Version A: Sung by Mrs. Elizabeth Brayman, Springfield, Mo., July 5 1933. Mrs. Brayman learned the song from her sister at Eureka Springs, Ark., about 1900. Shall I go bound, shall I go free?
Version B: Sung by Mrs. W.E. Jones, Pineville, Mo., Feb. 14, 1928.
"Cox (Folk-Songs of the South 1925, p. 87 lists this as one of the songs into which the "shoe my foot" stanzas of "The Lass of Roch Royal" (Child 76) are often introduced. A very similar pieces is reported by Sandburg, (American Songbag 1927, p. 324) under the title "Go Bring Me Back My Blue-Eyed Boy." See also the "Blue-Eyed Boy" songs collected in Missouri by Belden (Ballads and Songs, 1940, pp 478-480."
Sincerely, |
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Subject: Lyr Add: Must I Go Bound From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Sep 04 - 08:00 PM MUST I GO BOUND? (Girl's version, Sam Henry) Key of E flat. Must I go bound and you go free? Should I love them that wouldn't love me? Or should I act the childish part, To follow the lad that would break my heart? Once I heard a fair maid sing That marriage was a pleasant thing, But for myself I can't say so, My wedding day cost me great woe. The first thing he brought me was a mantle to wear, It was lined with sorrow and bound with care, And the drink he gave me was vinegar and gall, And the blows he gave me were worse than all. The fields are green and the meadows gay, The leaves are spreading on every tree, The time will come and soon it will be, He'll rue the day he slighted me. There is a bird sits on yon tree, Some say it's blind and does not see; Oh, I wish it had been the case with me When first I fell into his companie. I wish and I wish and I wish in vain, I wish my sweetheart would come again, He's far away now across the sea, And my heart is breaking, och, anee! As noted with the Lad's version, Sam Henry "Songs..." p. 386. Click to play |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Sep 04 - 08:45 PM In Belden, "Ballads and Songs Collected by the Missouri Folk-Lore Society," as noted by Gargoyle, the "Must I go (be) bound" verse appears in three of the four versions of the "The Blue-Eyed Boy that he collected in 1909-1911. None has the mantle or vinegar-gall lines. Two involve a girl who is going away and in one the boy departs, leaving "an orphant girl without a home." In a footnote, Belden suggests the song goes back to the 17th c. (Roxburghe Ballads VII 104-5), but not which verse(s). he does say "divers images or motifs seem to have been gathered around a refrain stanza (Bring me back the blue-eyed boy) which gives the name to the song." The song is not in "Folk Songs of Peggy Seeger," Oak, 1964 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Sep 04 - 09:52 PM I didn't find a Peggy Seeger recording available on CD, and I didn't find it in It appears that the "must I be bound" verse appears in many versions of "Waly Waly." Is the tune of the Peggy Seeger recording anything like "Waly Waly"? I thin the verses of "Waly Waly" are used in a lot of songs, so I don't know that I'd say this is a version of "Waly." -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 Sep 04 - 10:09 PM Most songs published as Waly Waly are nothing of the kind: the name was used for all sorts of things (including the English Water is Wide, for instance; which people will insist is Irish, for no other reason than that they want it to be) before people started to get their heads around the "floating verse" concept. So far as I can remember, there's no similarity between the Christie tune which I'm guessing that Peggy Seeger used (as simplified and altered by Sedley), judging from Willa's rough approximation, and any of the tunes used for any of the Waly Waly songs that really were Waly Waly songs... ...at which point you may begin to see what I meant when I tried to suggest that, on the whole, it would be a good idea to restrict discussion in this thread to the song that Willa posted. If we include all the other stuff that bears a vague resemblance to it, we will, as I said, be here forever; and the discussion will become so unfocused that nobody will be the wiser for it. I am already becoming confused myself. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 Sep 04 - 10:26 PM ... so I had better qualify Q's quote from Belden (above), as I have a copy of Roxburghe VII to hand at the moment. The only real similarity with Roxburghe VII, 104-5 (The Maid's Revenge upon Cupid and Venus, written by Laurence Price) is the following: Shall I be bound, that may be free? Shall reason rule my raging mind? Shall I love him that loves not me? No, though I wink, I am not blind. Commonplaces, really, to be found in many songs. Bruce Olson quoted a close example from Martin Parker (1633-4) in the thread I indicated earlier. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Sep 04 - 12:51 AM The wink-blind line in the Lad's version in Sam Henry causes me to think that the composer of that "plagiarism" was familiar with "The Maid's Revenge upon Cupid and Venus," quoted by Malcolm. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Little Robyn Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:50 AM I heard it in 1963 on a recording by Milt Okun and Ellen Steckert, the version as posted by gargoyle. Robyn |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MUST I GO BOUND? (from June Tabor) From: Willa Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:48 AM The posting at the top of the thread was made when I'd not been singing long, and was not aware of the importance of references to sources, or of the wealth of knowledge that some of you 'catters have. (It's been a steep, but most enjoyable learning curve!) At this distance in time, I'm not sure that I can find my original source, but I'll have a look the next time I visit our local music library. I do have June Tabor's 'Quiet Eye' and her version is very close to the one I posted. From the sleeve notes:^^ Must I be bound while you go free? Must I love one who never loved me? Must I enact such a childish part And follow one who will break my heart? The first thing that my love gave me, It was a cap well lined with lead. The longer that I wore that cap, It grew the heavier on my head. You gave me a mantle for to wear, Lined with grief and stitched with care. And the drink you gave me was bitter gall And the blows you gave to me were worse than all. And the last thing that my love gave me gave me, It was a belt with colours three. And the first was pain and the next was sorrow And the last it was sad misery. But I will climb up that high, high tree, And I will rob that wild bird's nest And I will fall without a fear And find me one that loves me the best. Repeat V 1 I'll try an ABC version. June sings it a fifth lower, but I think this would be more comfortable for most people. Tempo: ¾ Length; 1/8 Key: A min (?) DE|FEDCA,C|CDD3E|FEE3G|AGA2DE|FEF2GG|AGA2AG|FEDCA,C|CDD2
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 03 Sep 04 - 10:17 AM Do those sleeve notes mention where she got the song? It, too, looks to be a slight modification of the Sedley set. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Joe Offer Date: 03 Sep 04 - 11:06 AM I'd like to post some MIDI tunes for this. If you'd like to transcribe one and send it to me, I'll be glad to post it and link it to the appropriate lyrics. Be sure to identify your source. -Joe Offer- joe@mudcat.org |
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Subject: Tune Add: MUST I GO BOUND? From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:17 PM Here is the tune for the two Sam Henry texts quoted earlier by Q: X:1 T:Must I Go Bound? B:Gale Huntington and Lani Herrmann, Sam Henry's Songs of the People, University of Georgia, 1990, p. 386 S:David A Forsythe, Balinamore, Ballymoney; Joseph M'Callister, Broan, Killykergan, Coleraine. N:Henry H218a, 218b, 14 Jan 1928 N:Roud 60 N:Lyric fitted notionally. L:1/8 Q:1/4=100 M:4/4 K:Eb E2|G2 B2 e4|dc B2 cd ec|B6 w:Must I go bound and_ you go_ free?__ EF|G2 B2 c4-|cG AF E2 D2|E6:|] w:Should_ I love them_ that_ would-n't love me? To play or display ABC tunes, try concertina.net Click to play |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MY BLUE-EYED BOY From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:00 PM As noted in the "Must I Be Bound" thread – "My Blue-Eyed Boy" (Randolph, vol. IV, "Ozark Folksongs – Religious Songs and Other Items, University of Missouri, 1980, pp 260-262. Are very similar in lyrics and tune to the Buffy Sainte-Marie version of "Must I Be Bound."
Since Randolph's versions are different that that of the DT's "Blue-Eyed Boy" here they are: My Blue-Eyed BoyVer. A – Sung by Mrs. Elizabeth Brayman, Springfield, Mo., July 5, 1933. Mrs. Brayman learned the song from her sister at Eureka Springs, Ark., about 1900.
It's like a ring that has no end,
Shall I go bound, shall I go free?
Last night my true love promised me
Go dig my grave both wide an' deep,
Click to playVersion B Sung by Mrs. W. E. Jones, Pineville, Mo., Feb 14, 1928.
Must I go bound while he goes free,
Go bring me back the one I love,
Version C Sung by Miss Reba McDonald, Farmington, Ark., Feb 10, 1942.
It's true, the ring has no end,
Bring back by blue-eyed boy to me,
MIDI – of Blue-Eyed Boy – sent to Joe Offer for comparison to Sainte-Marie's "Must I Go Bound" MIDI also sent.
Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Willa Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:59 PM Malcolm. The sleeve notes simply say 'Trad arr Tabor Warren (Huw Warren) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Sep 04 - 05:16 PM June Tabor's website mentions Huw Warren as an accompanist. Tabor Her cd "The Quiet Eye" is listed as arranged by Tabor/Warren, so both of them handled the version in the album. Malcolm or someone in the UK may know how to contact June Tabor and ask about her (their) source. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Sep 04 - 05:30 PM Huw Warren has his own website: Huw Warren Collaboration with June Tabor is mentioned as beginning in 1988. "A Quiet Eye" (Topic TSCD 510) is listed without comment. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Sep 04 - 12:33 AM Thanks to Gargoyle, we have MIDI files for some of these songs, and some in other threads. There are "click to play" links under the appropriate lyrics. I transcribed the Okun arrangement because it looked interesting, and converted a MIDI from Malcolm's ABC. Willa, is your tune similar to any of these? Thanks, Gargoyle. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 05 Sep 04 - 01:01 AM Howdy Joe - the one you posted is Randolph's "My Blue-Eyed Boy" Okun's - Sainte-Marie is in the nearly contiguous e-mail Fri, 3 Sep 2004 20:08:16 +0200 titled "MustIGo.mid" The comparison of Okun's and Randolph's (with different titles) is almost uncanny. The ability to share midi's within a thread is a POWERFUL Tool Thank you. I am interested in Willa's tune comparison. Sincerely, Gargoyle |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Little Robyn Date: 05 Sep 04 - 01:11 AM The tune I heard was like the Blue-eyed boy midi. Robyn |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 05 Sep 04 - 01:15 AM My guess is that the Seeger/Tabor recordings both derive from Sedley, and will turn out to have the tune that he simplified from Christie (though doubtless altered to an extent by them). Plenty of people round here have Sedley's book and can post the tune. I'll add the set from Christie (which, as I said, is probably best considered a separate song) when time allows. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Willa Date: 05 Sep 04 - 04:45 PM Joe Sorry, but I've only just checked your post of Sept 2nd re Suzanne's version. The words are very similar, yet again, both to the first ones I posted and June Tabor's version (the folk process in action?). The tune is the one I use, though my attempt at an abc version may not have made that clear! Regards. |
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Subject: Tune Add: MUST I GO BOUND From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 05 Sep 04 - 07:18 PM Alright, then, since it needs doing. This is the tune that Sedley printed: X:1 T:Must I go Bound? B:Stephen Sedley, The Seeds of Love, Essex/EFDSS 1967, 125. N:Modern collation. Text and tune simplified from Christie, Traditional Ballad Airs, II, 1881, 226-7, with additions from Gale Huntington and Lani Herrmann, Sam Henry's Songs of the People, University of Georgia, 1990, p. 386, plus other material from unacknowledged sources. L:1/8 Q:1/4=100 M:3/4 K:G (EF)|G F (ED) (B,D)|D E E2 (EF)| w:Must_ I be bound_ and_ you go free Must_ G F G2 A2|B/B/ A B2 (EF)|G F G2 A (G/A/)| w:I love one who nev-eer loved me Why_ should I act such a_ B A B2 (BA)|G/G/ F (ED) B, D|D E E2|] w:child-ish part To_ fol-low a lad_ who will break my heart Text and tune from Christie, the main basis for Sedley's collation, follows.To play or display ABC tunes, try concertina.net |
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Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: THE BELT WI' COLOURS THREE From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 05 Sep 04 - 07:22 PM X:1 T:The Belt wi' Colours Three B:Christie, Traditional Ballad Airs, II, 1881, 226-7 S:"The Editor can trace this beautiful old Air and Ballad, through his relatives, far into the last century". N:Roud 5534 N:Some triplet indications omitted in original notation: added here as necessary. L:1/8 Q:1/4=100 M:3/4 K:G "Slowly and feelingly"B,|E3/2F/ {A}G2 (FE)|(3~(D3/E/)F ({F}E3/2D/) B, z/ B,/|G3/2A/ B2 {C}~B,2| w:The moon shined bright up_on_ my pil_low In-to the cham-ber G3/2A/ B2 (3(ABd)|B3/2A/ B2 ({G}F3/2E/)|(3~(D3/E/F) {F}E3/2D/ B, z/ A/| w:where I lay I__ could not sleep that_ cauld__ win-ter's night But B(A/B/) d2 (3(AB)d|(3(BA)F {F}E2 z d|e3/2d/ B2 (3(ABd)| w:up I_ rose at_ the break_ o' day And though the nicht was__ (3(BA)F ({F}E3/2D/) B, z/ d/|e3/2d/ B2 (3(dBA)|~G3/2A/ B2 (3(ABd)| w:cauld_ and fros_ty My man-tle green held__ me in heat I__ {d}B3/2A/ B2 (3(AFE)|(3~(D3/E/)F ({F}E3/2D/) B,z/ A/|"tr"B(A/B/) d2 (3(ABd)|(3(BA)F {F}E2 z|] w:did me down un__to_ the gar_den And gaed in_ at the__ gar_den yett. THE BELT WI' COLOURS THREE. The moon shined bright upon my pillow Into the chamber where I lay; I could not sleep that cauld winter's nicht, But up I rose at the break o' day. And though the nicht was cauld and frosty, My mantle green held me in heat; I did me down into the garden, And gaed in at the garden yett. And there I heard a fair maid sighing, And tearing at her yellow hair; She was tearing a' her dark green claithing, And fyling a' her face sae fair. She cried, "For me there is no comfort, And for me now there is no supplie; Lat ne'er a lass love any young man, Until she know that she lovèd be. "The firsten thing my lad gae to me, It was a cap well lined wi' lead; And aye the langer that I wore it, It grew the heavier on my head. Oh, for me now there is no comfort, And for me now there is no supplie; Lat ne'er a lass love any young man, Until she know that she lovèd be. "The nexten thing my lad gae to me, It was a mantle wi' sorrow lined; And lang will I wear that black mantle, Till one to borrow it I find. Oh, for me now there is no comfort, &c. "The thirden thing my lad gae to me, It was a belt wi' colours three; The first was shame, the next was sorrow, And the last of all sad miserie. Oh, for me now, &c. "But I may climb as high a tree yet, And there find out as rich a nest; And come down from it without e'er falling, And marry a lad I may loe best. Though for me now, &c." "Oh, why should ye now climb a tree, may, Or pull the cherries ere they be ripe; For if the gardener do ance you see, may, He'll throw you o'er the garden dyke." Then up she rose, and gaed on slowly, And stately stepped o'er the lea; And by this samin it is weel kenin', That mourners crave nae company. Christie notes, "The Editor can trace this beautiful old Air and Ballad, through his relatives, far into the last century". It is not possible to judge the extent of editorial intervention here, but it may be considerable. Bronson notes that Christie's second strains seem generally to be of his own making. It appears that the song has not been found independently elsewhere in anything like this form (but see the two Sam Henry Must I go Bound texts above, which borrow a few lines; quite possibly from this printed text rather than from tradition): the text in Ord, Bothy Ballads (1930, 194-5) appears to derive from Christie. A shortened text, lacking Christie's second strain (but specifically adapted from his example) was recorded by Alison MacMorland in 1977, and probably by now other people are singing her re-write of it, which is transcribed in Ailie Munroe, The Folk Music Revival in Scotland, Norwood Editions, 1985, 115-7, and in Sheila Douglas, Come Gie's a Sang, Edinburgh: Hardie Press, 1995, 108. The introductory verses remind me rather of something else which I can't place just at present. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MUST I GO BOUND (from Buffy Sainte-Marie) From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Sep 04 - 10:12 PM The words I've heard Buffy Sainte-Marie sing are: Must I go bound and you so free? Must I love one who doesn't love me? Must I be born with so little art As to love the one who would break my heart? I leaned my back up against some oak I thought it was a trusty tree But first it bent and then it broke And so did my false love to me I put my finger to a bush I thought I'd find a lovely flower The thorn it pierced me to the touch And so I left the rose behind There is a ship that sails the sea It's loaded down as deep can be But not so deep as the love I am in I know not 'ere I sink or swim Oh love be gentle and love be kind Gay as a jewel when first it's new But love grows old and then grows cold And fades away like the morning dew Must I go bound and you so free? Must I love one who doesn't love me? Must I be born with so little art As to love the one who would break my heart? And those, I think, are the best lyrics of all for this song, specially the line "must I be born with so little art?" (way better than "childish part") They have a more universal appeal which I think practically anyone, male or female, who has loved well but not so wisely could relate to. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Alice Date: 05 Sep 04 - 10:20 PM The version of "Must I Go Bound" that I sing is the fragment collected by Herbert Hughes in 1909 in Ireland (HUGHES ICS 1 1909 p68-9 "Must I go bound?" frag Co Derry 3v) referred to in what Joe posted on Sept O2. Alice |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Willa Date: 06 Sep 04 - 02:40 PM Thanks, Malcolm. The Sedley tune is essentially the same as the one I posted- some slight diferences in note lengths here and there. I went to the music library today to try to track down my sourc. It's been 'modernised' - dreaded word! and now has only a fraction of its original stock. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 Sep 04 - 05:16 PM Gargoyle, maybe you know about this reference to "Must I Go Bound" in Allmusic. The performer is listed as Milton Okun, the composer DeCormier Jr., and it appears in Riverside Folklore Series, vol. 3, Singing the New Traditions, 1996. No mention of Buffy. The track listing lists Milton Okun and Ellen Stekert as singers. Allmusic Search Sam Hinton is listed as performer of "I Must Go Bound" in another album, Newport Folk Festival, 1963, The Evening Concerts vol. 1, 1964, Vanguard. Listed as composed by Sam Hinton. This may be a different song. Any information, anyone? I remember that the local library threw out a set of books (not music) that I would have loved to have had but couldn't afford. Someone got it for a penny on the dollar (the librarian? nasty thought!). |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Be Bound From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 06 Sep 04 - 06:28 PM Library culls are a perennial problem. Although I've picked up a good bit of ex-library material over the years (sometimes direct from library sales, but all too often from dealers selling at enormous markups on what they will have paid) I'd far rather see the books kept available to all. I worry about certain hard-to-find books at Sheffield library, for instance, that only I ever seem to borrow. Their days may be numbered, but how will I know in time to "save" them? The lesson, I suppose, is to borrow such books regularly so that they don't get marked down as redundant. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Must I Go Bound From: GUEST,Mike Date: 01 Feb 06 - 02:41 PM Sam Hinton sings a song by this name on the old LP, Newport Folk Festival, The Evening Concerts (1963). I'm terrible at remembering lyrics, which is why I was trying to look them up. What I remember is this: 1st VERSE: Oh, grieve, oh, grieve, my true love, grieve. Must I go bound, while you go free. .... Must I love one that don't love me. REFRAIN: Oh, dig, oh, dig, my grave so deep. A marble slab at my head and feet. And on my breast a turtle dove, To show the world I died of love. 2nd VERSE: ... ... I'll hang my heart on the willow tree, To show the world I died for thee. (REFRAIN) |
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