Disservice to Folk Awards

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:48 AM

How about anyone who sets themselves up as a critic, I am quite capable (as everyone else is)of forming my own opinion on a CD or performance without having someone else do it for me. On numerous occasions a CD I've bought I've later found to be slated by a critic, so much for their insight. They do a huge dis-service to performers (no... I have not myself produced a CD)
They are a collective plague upon the house of art in general and in this instance folk music in particular. They should be dealt with like any other pest and eradicated

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 08:29 AM

Where???????

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Splott Man
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 08:23 AM

And what about "I can sing a rainbow" ?

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Bert
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 07:53 PM

It's gotta go to "Martin Guitars". How many folkies have bought one and been morphed from a good old folkie into a big headed guitar prima donna? *GRIN*

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 04:31 PM

Ice cream trucks here play "Turkey In The Straw" suitable punishment I guess for the dancing turkey I sent to Spaw's kids which howled the same tune.

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Nerd
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:58 PM

greg,

I think these should be called the "Folk Dis!" awards. But that's just me...

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Nerd
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:49 PM

In my neighborhood the ice-cream van plays "Pop goes the weasel." Same idea, though. I often wonder how long I could last as an Ice-Cream Man before I would go insane.

I agree that Cecil Sharp was far more of a force for good than for bad. Other collectors have had far more negative effects.

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Shimbo Darktree
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 11:05 AM

I have found it interesting to note over the years that what one listener (or fellow performer) will shoot you for, another will give you a medal for. The offence appears to be in the ear of the beholder.

And the icecream vans in Australia used to (haven't heard it for a long time) play "Greensleeves". Might almost be an improvement ... depends on your point of view!

Thoughtfully (for once),
Shimbo

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:55 AM

EPN will be thinking of C[ecil J] Sharp, presumably; C [K] Sharpe was an earlier collector (of Scottish song). A century on, we may regret the fact that many of the songs Sharp published were modified; but it was the only way he could get them printed for the general public, and the whole point was to get people singing them again. The texts as originally collected survive. He was a minor offender compared to many, and without his work and the influence it had on others many of us wouldn't even have heard of folk music; and those of us who had would have very little to talk about.

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: M'Grath of Altcar
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:52 AM

Terry Wogan - Floral Dance - dreadful

Sorry to mention it.

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Amos
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:49 AM

Jeri:


I LOVE your Revenge on the Ice Cream Truck!! Suits me !! LOL


A

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:47 AM

Mulligan and O'Hare - ROTFLMAO! I'd forgotten about them, and Vic Reeve's Terry Wogan wig and protruding nipples.
"My roOOOooose has left me..."

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: el_punkoid_nouveau
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:33 AM

Strangely enough, one C Sharpe comes to mind - he might have done much to save English Traditions (many of which have gone by the board since his day), but - did he have to clean them up? Was Cotswold morris quite so pretty - or should it be closer to Border?

Who can tell?

Who knows where the time goes?

epn

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:32 AM

2) The award could also fall into 'promoting the bland' category and Kumbaya might fall into the 'wanton excuses for harmony' genre. I sometimes joke about the song, but it still sounds great with a lot of voices. There are a lot of songs a lot of adults sing, wherever you may go that fit the bill. 'Wild Mountain Thyme' for one, but I still love singing that one too.

I was once waiting for a prescription in a pharmacy, and there was this little kid with a little fake record player toy. Every time he pushed a big plastic button, a wee traditional fiddle tune came out - mostly bouncy English ones. You have to wonder who designed it and give them credit for trying to slip a bit of trad music into the lives of toddlers. Somebody else might very well complain about it, but not me.

However...if I had a rifle and was a lot more vengeful (and slightly more insane) than I really am, that ice cream truck that plays 'Arkansas Traveller' over and over again would be lying in a ditch someplace, leaking melted treats out of every newly-created orifice.

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:01 AM

Yes.

Sabine Baring-Gould was responsible for the rewrite of Strawberry Fair. It was not his most glorious moment.

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:00 AM

Mulligan and O'hare.

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 08:15 AM

In the UK we have a pretend butter spread called 'Clover'. The advertising campaign shows happy families eating this stuff (churned for extra taste - churned with what?!) to the tune of 'The Wild Rover' (For we all love Clover, all over this land).

The person who chose that particular song for that particular spread should be put up against a wall and shot!

LTS

Subject: RE: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 08:08 AM

The advertising and media mogus get my vote! How long do they think that taking the piss out of folk music and morris dancing can be a valid cheap laugh?

As to number 3 on your list, Greg - depends which words.

How many crows can you pick from your nose...

Can't see anything wrong with it myself;-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: Disservice to Folk Awards
From: greg stephens
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 07:52 AM

Nominations are invited, with reasons. I haven't got names for my three, I haven't done the research, but you get the idea.
1) Whoever had the idea of teaching children to sing "Strawberry Fair"(singing, singing, buttercups and daisies rifolrifol tolderiddleido etc)
2) Whover had the idea of teaching children to sing "Kumbayah"
3) Whoever wrote those words to "English Country Gardens"