BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?

Subject: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 09:23 PM

Very interesting. Evidently I was not the only one to note and wonder. In another thread I said: "The group with whom I watched the debate said the lumpiness on Bush's back was from a bulletproof vest he was wearing. I imagine that's true, but there was a curious square shape outlined just above his shoulder blades. Just looked out of place. "

Ah, come on. They wouldn't lie, now would they?

"Campaign aides to President Bush (news - web sites) on Saturday laughed off rampant Internet speculation about whether the president was wired to get help from advisers during his first debate with Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites). "It's not true. It's ridiculous," Bush campaign spokesman Scott Stanzel said. "

"A still photo from television footage of Bush as he debated Kerry on Sept. 30 in Coral Gables, Fla., appears to show a small, boxy shape between the president's shoulder blades."

Was Bush Wired? Ridiculous, Campaign Says

Believe it or not

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: JennyO
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 09:50 PM

I thought this was a thread about little johnnie howard. But he'd be more likely to be located further south on Dubya. More like a pimple on his bum. One badly in need of squeezing.

Jenny (recovering from our crummy election results)

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:21 PM

Sure it wasn't just his radio mike transmitter?

Or was it the control box for the bio mechanical robot replacement?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:25 PM

Well, if they did have a radio transmitter in Bush's coat it din't do him no good but just so that folks ain't concerned that Bush might be gettin' some coachin' from Karl Rove I think it would be best that Bush do the third and last debate in the nude...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:35 PM

Cheney giving him a goodbye kiss?

(Is this like Twenty Questions?)

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:37 PM

Incidentally, when I saw it, it was in the October 8 debate. A friend of mine saw something out of place in the first debate. In other words, in both debates there were/are unanswered questions. Check out the news sites. Lots of stories about it- including in The Guardian.

The White House has been silent about it- "doesn't want to dignify it with a response"- but presidential aides say the president was NOT wearing a "protective garment." Some have suggested it was just a "wrinkle in his suit." Yeah. Right.

Weirder and weirder. The administration could say, I suppose, that with the bush's known difficulty expressing himself they were just leveling the playing field. However, two heads are better than one, they say; so if the bush was wired, John Kerry was debating a team, not just one person.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:45 PM

IMO, it was an electrical shock-box. Whenever Bush was saying something he got a mild shock just to remind him he was speaking. Whenever it seemed he was actually thinking about what he was saying, he got a BIG shock. However, he has, as yet in this life, received NO BIG shocks.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:48 PM

Or maybe a 'continuous feed" of medications? LOL

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:50 PM

"Oh, the divil he heisted her up on his hump, rightfull, rightfull, titty-fie-tay..."

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:53 PM

lump, Little Hawk, LUMP

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:54 PM

Could it have been the voice of Christmas past?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:57 PM

I'm suggesting that his hump is beginning to show... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Amergin
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:58 PM

i think it was the puppeteer's hand.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 10:59 PM

Could it have been his secret supply of big words?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 11:21 PM

Hey, I know. It was a translation device. The thoughts enetr the box in English. They are translated into Bush and then retranslated into English. What comes out is the voice of the President.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 11:31 PM

Bush thinks: I have to give a serious answer to this question from Kerry, but it has to be phrased such that only Dick Cheeney really understands.

Thoughts: 我從凱利必須給予這個問題一個嚴重的答案，但是它必須被敘述以便唯一的迪克 Cheney 真正懂得。

What he then says: 我 從 凱 利 必 須 給 予 這 個 問 題 一 個 嚴 重 的 答 案 ， 20294;&# 26159;&# 23427.

Thus, the President of the United States tells the world the launch codes for ICBMs.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 11:34 PM

OK, no more foolin' around. It was an invisibility device. Bush thought it was turned on, so he scratched his nuts in public. Imagine HIS surprise.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 11:37 PM

As much as I would LOVE to find out Bush was receiving radio cues, I would make an educated guess that it had nothing to do with a receiver. A radio receiver would be tiny enough to fit in his ear without any additional equipment.

The box could have been a wireless transmitter for a lav mic. These are tiny mics that are usually put on a lapel and a transmitter is normally put in the small of the back. We used these when I worked at CNBC.   

While they had handheld mics last night, I thought that the sound was too uniform. I felt that the handheld mics were more of a prop or a backup. When you move around like they were, and moving their hands like they were, the sound levels would have fluctuated greatly. A lav mic on the jacket would make for a more uniform sound.

If Bush had an ear piece, someone would have noticed.   There is a earpiece called an IFB that most broadcasters use. A mold is made of the ear so that the piece can fit comfortably and snuggly.   If you are on the set, you will notice it. There is a wire that is carefully routed down the back of the jacket and onto a belt device, or it can also be placed in the small of the back.

I did notice the bulge in his back last night, but my first thought was that he was wearing a bullet proof vest of some type, or perhaps a brace of some sort.   It did not look like any kind of broadcast equipment that I've ever seen.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 12:08 AM

"What hump?" - Marty Feldman, Young Frankenstein

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 12:41 AM

A lav mic box is usually hooked on the belt, either front or back. I can see that having the suit jacket hanging over it would have looked awkward, but wouldn't the box be clipped onto a more neutral place? Audiences are familiar with that kind of device.

In one of the AP sites they said there is a receiver that plugs so deep into the ear canal that no one would see it unless they were looking directly into the ear.

Evidently for some time now there have been questions about Bush's use of a transmitter, notably during the meeting between himself and Chirac, when the words that Bush said were audible before he said them.

Where was Kerry's mic?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 01:18 AM

That is the point Ebbie... if it were a receiver or a transmitter, it would have been place in a different spot. To have something between his shoulders appears to be something else,as I said perhaps a brace or a bullet proof vest.

The earpiece that AP mentioned, and that I described, does fit in rather deep, but again, there would be a wire showing and anyone on stage could see it.

I really think this was something harmless.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dianavan
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 01:34 AM

hink Ron got it when he said, 'If Bush had an ear piece, someone would have noticed.   There is a earpiece called an IFB that most broadcasters use. A mold is made of the ear so that the piece can fit comfortably and snuggly.   If you are on the set, you will notice it. There is a wire that is carefully routed down the back of the jacket and onto a belt device, or it can also be placed in the small of the back.'

I didn't notice the box on his back, I noticed the EAR. At first I thought he had some plastic surgery done on his ears because they looked fake - sort of sharp and shiny. Then I noticed that one of his ears looked positively plastic and totally fake. I new nothing of the device mentioned above.

Of course this is all speculation but I was not looking for something like this. I was just noticing how odd his ears looked. Maybe that is why he kept lifting his shoulders in that odd way. Maybe he was trying to hide the wire or something.

d

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 04:03 AM

Maybe it was an orgasm machine. You know, he pushes the button and boom: Orgasms are us. Maybe that's why he smiled twice.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 04:14 AM

Maybe it was a parachute that he forgot to remove after landing the fighter on the aircraft carrier. Ya think?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 04:45 AM

OK, OK, I got it. The idea came to me just a few minutes ago while I was watching the stars. It's a little after 2:30 AM in Alberta, and it's a very claer night. Saw some meteorites after returning from a call to a tanker that left the road about 65 km outta town. It was carrying liquid nitrogen. (Very cool stuff.) Anyway, the heavens are absolutely beautiful this evening. And I hope it's beautiful where you are, also.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: el_punkoid_nouveau
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 06:12 AM

Wasn't it where the strings were attched? You could always see them in Thunderbirds!

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 06:17 AM

Body armor

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 06:18 AM

That was his arse, but mind you he talks through it. Like them all

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 12:12 PM

(The official word from the White House aides at this time is that the president was NOT wearing any kind of body armor. Eb)

Evan Augustine Peterson III, J.D.
[e-mail]
Executive Director
American Center for International Law (ACIL) writes:

"The original videotape plainly shows that he was wearing some sort of rectangular electronic device on his back between his shoulder-blades. Among others, the retailer Spyware carries techno-gadgets that fit this description.

"How do they work? These gadgets are pre-set to receive a specific radio frequency, secured to the wearer's body, then the signal is relayed into a wireless micro-speaker that's planted deep enough in the wearer's ear-canal that it can't be seen by observers. "


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Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 01:03 PM

"lav mic" - isn't that a microphone designed for using by someone while in the loo?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 01:15 PM

A monkey?

I really have my doubts about this, but were I inclined to think there was really something to it, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of an earphone. Where was this lump? If it were about waist-level, as if he had something clipped to his belt, then I'd say it might be possible. On several programs, including Austen City Limits, I've seen performers wearing earphones that were flesh-colored and fit neatly into the ear. They were next to undetectable in anything less than a close-up, and I don't recall any close-ups that close in the debates.

But don't make the mistake of underestimating Bush. He had only a couple of points he wanted to make, and he just kept hammering away at them. No matter what Kerry said or what the questions were, he stuck to what he wanted to talk about like chewing gum on a cat.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 01:31 PM

Don Firth, there are photos - in the first debate - showing the 'lump' between the president's shoulder blades. I watched that debate but I didn't see that. What I saw in the second debate was a square or rectangle (not sure), approximately 4 inches x on the spine slightly above the shoulder blades

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 02:00 PM

His battery?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 02:29 PM

Interesting, Ebbie. Are there any photos of this posted on the internet? I've found stories, but no photos so far. I watched both debates (plus Cheney-Edwards, of course), but I didn't notice the lump. But I must admit, I wasn't looking that closely, so I could have missed it.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 02:30 PM

Dianavan - An IFB is not the shape of the entire ear. It is basically a small mold that is used for the inner ear.
Here is an example of what it looks liek -earpiece

Makeup and placement of the device can hide it from TV cameras, but if he had one during the debate, you would see it. They walked around the stage and cameras were on all sides of them.

In addition, these devices do not have very much of a range. You need to be within about 50 feet of the transmitter.   Setting up such a transmitter in the building would not be very easy to accomplish.

Bush and his handlers may be stupid, but do you honestly think they would have left a bulky device on his shoulder blade knowing that cameras could pick it up? A breast pocket jacket would have been an easier place to hide it. The fact is, anyone in that room who got up close to Bush could have detected it. There is no earpiece that can be completely hidden.

What was it? I really don't know. I don't know enough about bullet proof vests, but that would be my first guess. The White House would not want to admit to his wearing a vest in the debate as a matter of security.

Look, I don't trust these clowns any more than the rest of you. I want to see Bush out on his ass, but this is not going to accomplish anything. I've been in enough in television studios to know that viewers can be fooled. In this instance, we are once again looking for a person on the grassy knoll or hidden away in Hangar 53. What we end up doing is looking like a bunch of kooks and completely missing the goal that needs to be accomplished.   You aren't going to get Bush out of office even if you do prove he wore an earpiece.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: DMcG
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 02:36 PM

There's a photo (and article) here

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 02:42 PM

Looks like a girdle. Man-bra perhaps? More likely a bullet proof vest that they will never admit to.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 03:31 PM

Yeah, there appears to be something there. My guess would be the Kevlar vest thing. But I agree with Ron. I want Bush out as much as anybody, but even if he was getting clued from backstage, what does this prove? Picking nits.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 03:58 PM

Got it. It was his stash.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 04:08 PM

Don't agree with you about the futility of the 'nitpicking'. IF Bush was being coached from backstage, not only was it completely unethical and contrary to the debate rules, John Kerry would have been debating more than one brain. (Well, at least a brain and a half.)

IF Bush cheated, it is a tremendous scandal. I would think there wouldn't be a hope of his getting elected.

I have no idea what the thing actually was but I do know two things:

1) He wore it on September 30, during the first debate
2) He wore it on October 8, during the second debate.
3) If it was a wrinkle in his suit, it wrinkled into neat right angles. What was it: a $50.00 suit?? Ya figure?

Incidentally, a 'man bra' - or a woman's bra, for that matter- would NOT have a square in the back above the shoulder blades. Nor would a girdle. A girdle is for the person's middle parts, not the shoulders.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 04:37 PM

Okay, Ebbie, point taken.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dianavan
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 04:49 PM

Dear Ron - I'm not trying to prove anything. I was simply making an observation about his ears. I didn't really notice the hump on his back but I think these comments are humorous especially since it is obvious that this administration thinks they can 'pull the wool over our eyes' anytime they want. I wouldn't put anything above them.

d

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Cruiser
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 05:25 PM

Come on folks! It is just a crease spanning the man's shoulder blades. Bush has slumped shoulders and the voided space between them is filled with a bunching up of his suit. It is very similar to the creasing that occurs between a well-endowed woman's breasts in a tight blouse.

This thread is sounding like material that would occur in a Supermarket tabloid magazine...Inquire, The Star, etc. The trouble is, there are some intelligent Mudcatters that have posted nonsense here.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 06:05 PM

OK, let me say just one more thing here- and then I'll stop.

I'll grant you that tt may not have been anything nefarious. It, however, was NOT a wrinkle; it WAS something; it is NOT a wildeyed conspiracy event. The White House is going to have to come up with an answer that fits the facts.

See you later, chum(p)s. *G*

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 06:07 PM

I still think it was a battery. I've got a toy kangaroo like that - you push the paw and it hops around, singing "Waltzing Matilda". There's a battery plack under the skin, but it causes a square bulge.

Of course I'm not suggesting Bush would do anything like that. I imagine he'd be more likely to cry out "You can run but you can't hide", at random intervals, or make comical faces.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: jaze
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 06:50 PM

His aides today denied it was a listenening device but also did not state what it was. As usual, when in any kind of denial about something, they insist everyone is crazy. At least this time they didn't say unpatriotic.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 10:42 PM

Ebbie - Part of me hopes that you and others are right and this clown is exposed, but logic tells me that this CONSPIRACY theory does not make any sense. If we all look at things with our eyes and ears open, we can learn the truth. If we hang on ONE premise, and then look for evidence to back up that premise, we become the "chump(s)".

I hope I am wrong. I will gladly admit it. I would love a good scandal that shows George Bush to be the real idiot that we think he is.   However, I don't think the evidence is there. If anyone is going to go through a scheme to put a bug in Bush's ear, they are not going to leave such an obvious "track". Even these morons are not that stupid.

Tonight I was watching Farenheit 9/11.   IF you have the DVD, look for the special features. Take a good look at the "new scenes" section, the one where Bush holds a meeting with the press after he met with the 9/11 commission with Dick Cheney. As he turns to leave, hit your pause button. You will see the same mysterious bulge behind the shoulder blade. If you look lower, you will see the outline of what appears to be a vest- I would imagine a bullet proof vest.   I sincerely doubt that the White House wants to "tarnish" the image of their Superman as being vulnerable to bullets, that is my guess as to why they are dismissing this.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 11:54 PM

Interesting page here, with theories and a bunch of time-stamped photos. The photos give some sense of movement, and the bulge appears to look more like a wrinkle than anything else. Who knows? Not me. We're all going to be bulge-watching during the next debate, though.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 12:01 AM

Another site: www.isbushwired.com

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 12:03 AM

I think it is one of two things: Either it's a tuna fish sandwich OR the place he carries his wallet. Makes the wallet hard to get at, but it sure discourages pickpockets. I was only foolin' about the sandwich. The mayo would contaminate too easily.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 02:17 PM

Borg implant... "Resistance is futile!"

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 02:27 PM

t'be sure it reminds of the old music hall classic. they've put a colostomy bag on me tonsils ma, but still I keep talking shite.....

yous lot are just jealous cos you ain't got one.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 02:33 PM

McGrath may have hit on it. It's Bush's battery pack. The guy ain't human. Confirms what I have thought all along.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 02:36 PM

Maybe I'm being denser than usual, but in the pic, I can't see his shoulder blades...where is this black box?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Jeanie
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 03:25 PM

It seems pretty clear to me. This is a rather uncunningly disguised tail. Yes..........you know what this means. Bush IS the Giant Squirrel ! (see other threads for further proof)

- jeanie

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 03:32 PM

The device appears to be located from approximately T6 to T11. It does not look like a problem with his suit. However, the Secret Service should employ better tailors for Idiot. A little padding on the shoulders and thus have the material on the back of the jacket drape accordingly, and no one would be asking these embarrassing questions.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 03:34 PM

As for Idiot wearing a bullet-proof vest: Why. His stoopid head is unprotected.

On second thought . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 03:49 PM

Do you suppose that his brains are up his arse and the box on his back contains the circuit that connects them to his mouth?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 03:50 PM

If so, do you suppose anyone has checked the connection lately?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 03:57 PM

The photos that have appeared on the WWW are so dark as to be useless. I took one into Adobe Photoshop and increased the brightness (NO OTHER CHANGES OR ENHANCEMENTS). Don't look like anything except a box to me. If you want a copy, please E-mail me at [e-mail] and I'll send you one. BTW, the right ear looks a bit odd, too.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 05:20 PM

Maybe it's the mechanism that makes it possible for him to turn his back on his country.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 05:41 PM

Suddenly occurred to me!!

So I warped through cyberspace and came up with all kinds of stuff. But this (Snopes) contains probably the most rational explanation for (sound of spooky music played on a Theremin) "The Curse of Tecumseh." Every president elected in a year divisible by 20 has died in office, some by assassination.

There is plenty of evidence to support the believers in "The Curse," and Bush and/or his cohorts may be among those believers. I'm not particularly superstitious, but were I Bush, I wouldn't take a chance. The "Curse of Tecumseh" could be a "self-fulfilling" curse, because it could always inspire some nut-case to do the fulfilling. I think there is a distinct possibility—probability—that Bush wears a Kevlar vest most of the time. Reagan is the only president to have survived "The Curse," but only because the bullet missed his heart by less than an inch.

I do not necessarily postulate the wearing of a bullet-proof vest as an alternative theory to the cause of the bulge in Bush's jacket. It could be in addition to, which might make the wire even more difficult to hide.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 05:50 PM

Eureka!

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: redhorse
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 05:53 PM

It's a posture brace to pull back his shoulders and make him look masculine and dominant. It comes from the same idiot who told him walking with his knuckles forward would make him look like a gorilla

nick

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 06:09 PM

Sorry, Jeri, that ain't no wrinkle. Look at the (real) wrinkles on his sleeve, or look at any article of clothing that wrinkles under stress. Let me know if you ever see a single, solitary wrinkle, let alone one that forms a right angle.

The problem is, people who support Bush wouldn't change their minds even if his coat fell off and you could see a box with an antenna and a plug in his ear. Fox News would just say that he has to have that system in order to be notified when there's another terrorist attack, and half the country (well, at least half the people who respond to polls, or half the people who both register and bother to vote) would say, "Yeah, of course he has to wear that box. It's to keep us safer against terrorism! What a strong leader he is!"

And the people who don't support Bush would say, "Aha! Told you so!"

So it goes.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 12:52 AM

Here's a site that has 28 pictures of Bush during the debate. All the pictures, taken when Bush was in various poses, show the same rectangular bar across the back of his suit jacket, at about shoulder blade height. The bar doesn't change even when Bush shifts position.
The site also shows the frame in which Bush says "Now let me finish..." even though no one is interrupting him, the green light is on, and he has a clear 30 seconds to finish what he is saying.

When the site comes up, you will see 28 thumbnail sized images. Move your mouse over them and you'll get an arrow that you can click to enlarge. You will then have very large images side by side, that you can scroll down through.

Have fun -- I did!

BushBulge

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 02:15 AM

No wonder James Baker insisted on having no rear camera shots! It's just too funny that it was Fox News that took them.

I'll start the list of possible benign explanations for the box:

1) It was the 'little black box' that keeps the president in touch with developments in the world.
2) It was his medication- it feeds directly into his blood stream via his spine.
3) He has a new toy.
4) His wife had gone out for the evening and he wanted to stay in touch with her.
5) He had mislaid his $8000 suit and borrowed one from his janitor.
6) He has a bad back and moving around is painful for him so he put on the ungodly thing to immobilize himself.
7) It was body armor after all, but the only part of his body that was protected was the spine and the part that was protected by a cord running up from there to his right shoulder. (The cord or wire also ran down under his tie and around his middle to the left, so probably about 1/25th of his body had some protection.)
8) He has a bad back so he stuck a heat pack into his suit to soothe the pain.
9) His doector said that Bush's posture has been too straight so he advised him to wear the thing to bend him over a bit.
10) I've run out of 'splanations.
10b) Oh, I just realized another one: He fell flat on his back in his bathroom and cut himself in the middle of his back. It bled profusely so they had to put a thick pad of gauze on it to keep it from soiling his janitor's suit.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 03:39 AM

I reckon he forgot to take the coathanger out when he put the jacket on!
From the clip I saw on UK news it looked like he was getting in-ear voices (or maybe in his head!) as he said: "Let me finish" when no-one in the room was interrupting him!

RtS
(what am I doing reading/adding to a thread on US politics? Bad Roger!)

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 06:01 AM

Here's a pretty plausible explanation from cartoonist Steve Bell

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: s6k
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 07:51 AM

how small was the lump? i ask because if small enough, it could be his missing brain

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 10:43 AM

It sounds to me like the place where his handlers turn the big key to make him go.

I seriously think its a big issue and a huge abuse of his position as president going into the leadership race. Its not enough that he has the whole apparatus of government and the presidency at his command. He wants to have all his advisors in his ear when he talks to his electoral oponnent. How many advisors does it take for the man to have something smart to say?

I wish he would stop being a concealing wet blanket over the data and just introduce us to the people who make the decisions. Maybe if we talked to the decision makers we'd have a hope of getting the truth. He may not understand the issues to even answer.

To be fair, has anyone seen a similar crutch for Kerry?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 10:54 AM

was there one lump or two? I am sure I saw one on the Grassy Knoll as well!

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 01:24 PM

It's that lump on the front of the lump on the back that is the real problem.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: UncleToad
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 01:55 PM

The lump is Cheney's head...someone said "Everytime I go to kiss Dubya's ass...I have to move Cheney's head out of the way."

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 03:32 PM

We are used to be cheated one way or the other. Think of the singers opening their mouths to prerecorded music. Think of the actors doing movements like guitar playing when we all know that the close up of the fingers are those of someone else. What do you say, there is a difference between cinema where we know and expect to see acting instead of the real thing and politics? The difference gets smaller and smaller.

It starts with the background guy/girl who has all the information and whispers in the presidents ear when he turns to a new face: "That's Joe Brown, the lord mayor of Lietown, he's in our party and recently has lost his wife in a car accident". With that information, the president pretends to have a better memory than he actually has.

Then there are the campaign photos: Our chancellor is a bit short and so he stands on a box when being photographed with his closest advisors and ministers.

Then there are the speeches they read. When secretaries and ministers come to a local event all that local information in their speeches making them look like if they would care and know about local problems has been written by a guy who remains unknown.

Their big speeches they read from a teleprompter. Their spontaneous responses on campaign events with a life audience are well rehearsed responses to questions that were known before.

So why should they stop using those things for a live debate? The frontman of the team is a play actor trying to look presidential. The Bush of the TV debates seems so different from the stuttering live Bush from earlier TV appearances that that alone is suspicious. You are voting for a team when you vote for Bush. Don't let you be deceived by the public frontman.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 02:51 AM

Firesign Theatre foresaw all this 30 years ago. Go back and listen to I Think We're All Bozos on This Bus (1971). "Hey, Mister, you broke the President!"

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Metchosin
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 03:06 AM

....where there are more truly real things than when you drive by. LOL

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Nerd
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 03:58 AM

An excerpt from Salon.com:

Speculation continues to run wild about President Bush's mystery bulge. Since Friday, when Salon first raised questions about the rectangular bulge that was visible under Bush's suit coat during the presidential debates, many observers in the press and on the Internet have wondered aloud whether the verbally and factually challenged president might be receiving coaching via a hidden electronic device.

Now a technical expert who designs and makes such devices for the U.S. military and private industry tells Salon that he believes the bulge is indeed a transceiver designed to receive electronic signals and transmit them to a hidden earpiece lodged in Bush's ear canal.

"There's no question about it. It's a pretty obvious one -- larger than most because it probably has descrambling capability," said Alex Darbut, technical and business development vice president for Resistance Technology in Arden Hills, Minn. Darbut examined photographs of the president's back taken from the Fox News video feed at the first presidential debate in Coral Gables, Fla., as well as 2002 photos of the president driving and working in a T-shirt on his Crawford ranch, which were posted on the White House Web site.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,CBS RULES
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 10:02 AM

Yea, the same experts that CBS used to autheticate the memos.

Theres something there, theres something there. I know there is, I
know there is.

A bunch of nutbars post over the internet and it becomes a news story of how 'speculations are running rampant'.

Yea, theres something there, your own obsessions, seek help.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 10:30 AM

AS I posted previously, if you want to see a clearer picture of the bulge, E-mail me at [e-mail] and I'll send you less over-exposed copy.I have no idea what the box was, but it certainly wan't a wrinkle. Body armor? Wireless receiver? Battery pack?
I dunno--just seems odd that the bush camp is deying its existence so vehemently. Maybe lying is simply a reflex action.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,grimmer2
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 10:31 AM

What's all the fuss about? The real battle of the bulge was fought years ago..get over it. I thought we all knew that we voted for one we get the wizard behind the curtain anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 11:15 AM

Just a lump growing with each lies.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: DMcG
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 11:22 AM

I'm quite looking forward to the next debate. I hope to see:

- GW stripped to the waist to show he hasn't got any wires

- John Kerry saying "You turned an $X billion surplus into a $Y deficit and lost Z million jobs: You can run from your record, Mr President, but you can't hide."

What other treats might we get, I wonder?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 02:45 PM

This all started with that damn Lincoln. That off-the cuff speech he gave in Gettysburg was actually written on the back of an envelope! All Republicans since then have had to cheat!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 02:50 PM

Stripped to be waist? Not good enough. Otherwise there'd just be unseemly rumours about bulges in his pants.

"But even the President of the United States
Sometimes must have
To stand naked."

Maybe this is one of those times.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 06:13 PM

If the debate telecast is going to feature a strip search, maybe I'll watch tonight!

Last night, Letterman had his neighbor Rupert Jee, proprietor of the Hello Deli, pose in a suit jacket hiding a large bulging package taped to the middle of his back. An audience "contestant" was then recruited to "guess what's hidden under Rupert's jacket." (It was a raw steak.)

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,LAS
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 09:24 PM

OK. Could someone tell me how such a device works? Does the sound reverberate through Bush's bones?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dianavan
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 09:51 PM

I think Bush did have a receiver on his back. Looks like the wires ran up towards his neck. I also think that to hide the receiver embedded in his ear, a molded plastic ear was placed over his own ear. What you might call a real hollywood, make-up job.

It was the fake ear that was so obvious to me. I didn't see the box or the wires until I saw the photos.

d

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 10:20 PM

Sorry not to read the whole thread-- was it Eric Hearbel?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 10:33 PM

Anyone ever read Heinlein's novel "The Puppet Masters"? For W to be "ridden" would explain a lot.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 11:05 PM

His ears did not look fake to me. You can't hide wires without someone in the room noticing it. Sorry, I'm still not buying it.   Bullet proof vest is my best guess.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,TerryC
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 11:21 PM

Yeah, that would be a radio receiver... if the debate had taken place in 1965!! The rectangular shape shown in President Bush's back is approximately four to five inches across. Do ya THINK the President of the United States of America could afford something a bit more high tech than a 5-inch transistor radio duct-taped to his back if that's what he was trying to do??

Check out a couple of links to technology any average citizen can purchase:

http://www.woodynorris.com/Articles/TigerSoftware.htm
http://www.exxun.com/ebop/bo_el_radio.html
http://pen-shaped_radio.manufacturers.alibaba.com/

...yet you want us to believe that President Bush would "sneak" into a televised debate with a radio receiver the size of a small BRICK!? Quit smoking that stuff and get real.

-Terry

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 12:14 AM

Not wires -- wireless. And the part that goes in the ear is virtually invisible, as it is tiny and goes in deep. The bulge in the suit is large because it has interference preventions built in.

So I've read, anyway.

Did anyone notice that in the third debate there were no camera shots from behind?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 03:55 AM

see current Private Eye cover:http://www.private-eye.co.uk/
HERE:


RtS

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 09:54 AM

There were camera shots from behind in the third debate. It depends on which network you were watching - all networks created their broadcasts from the available camera angles.    I did not detect any bulges this time, but the area around the labels seemed a bit wrinkeled.   I think he needs a better tailor.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,JB
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 01:09 PM

Naturally there were no bulges detectable this time. Bush is stupid but even he can learn. He was really scared to try this again because he has basically beeen found out.

He was also quite poor in the debate this time and although I didn`t exactly see him scowl, he did manage that foolish half smile half chuckle.

It was most embarrassing when he tried his hand at humour saying how his wife could speak much better English and make herself better understood than he could.

In my opinion George, you really lost this one, but let`s hope it will take effect with the voters.

JB

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 04:04 AM

I give you fair warning. 97.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 08:51 AM

As I've said, I have no idea what it was. But it definitely was!

Re denials (and wrinke explanations), I can only quote:

As I was sitting on a chair
I knew the bottom wasn't there
Nor legs nor back--but there I sat
Ignoring little things like that.
            (The Perfect Conswervative; anonymous)

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,Jaime.
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 09:18 PM

Most likelly a brain stimulator to give him a jump start in case his brain gets totally deplited .

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 10:29 PM

Stripped to be waist? Not good enough. Otherwise there'd just be unseemly rumours about bulges in his pants.

So that explains the codpiece then.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: DougR
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 01:36 AM

I wasn't going to post to this thread because it's about an embarrasing subject for any male Texan to respond to. You see, male Texans are (looking for the right and proper way to say this)heavenly (got to bring in religion)endowed.

Now Bush had two choices: let it hang out beneith his trousers, or wind it around his body, up the torso and secure it with baling wire at a level just above the nipples. Some guys have to bring it up and wrap it around their neck with only the necktie shielding it from view. Evidently Bush was not blessed with one quite so long. Anyway, it appears that Karl Rove was able in the debates that followed to find a way to conceal the treasure (some would say) he was blessed with (St. Matthew: 7:16-69).

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dianavan
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 02:31 AM

DougR - How does that account for the lump on his back? Do you think maybe he needed to bundle it and carry it like a pack? And what about all that hopping around he does - is that just the pee pee dance? You are BRILLIANT!

d

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 03:49 AM

Hmmm...Doug, you may have a point there. Does that explain why he has trouble speaking, too?

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 11:24 AM

So Texas men have square ones? Interesting. Some tapirs have square ones. Prehensile, too. I saw a Texan like that headed my way, I'd be running the other way FAST. Probably screaming, too.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST,TheDevilMyself
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 03:57 AM

It was a battery pack. Duracel... Product placement, y'know... not cheap even when you can't see it!

DEVIL

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 06:32 PM

(As various ones above have said, I don't know WHAT the lump was but I do know it was SOMETHING. And to repeat: I saw it in the SECOND debate, not the first one. I didn't even know there was any conjecturing going on, until after. As for the third debate, I didn't see that one- I was riding around in an airport shuttle listening to the debate on our way to the blessed Getaway jump off hotel.

Body armor makes the most sense. On the other hand, the man has been campaigning in shirt sleeves, in places where security is not nearly as tight as in the debate halls.)

Here is the latest bushspin:

"I don't know what that is," Bush said. "I mean, it is — I'm embarrassed to say it's a poorly tailored shirt." (Twice? Square?People reported it in both of the first two debates. Eb)

Bush said there was no sound system or electrical signal.

"I guess the assumption was that if I were straying off course they would ... kind of like a hunting dog, they would punch a buzzer and I would jerk back into place," Bush said. "That's just absurd."

"The Bush campaign laughed off the speculation when it first blossomed on the Internet and then cropped up in news stories.

Read All About It

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 01:43 AM

It was the alien the controlls that evil robot.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Metchosin
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 08:07 PM

I got it! I got it! I got it! Its an ice pack! The Republicans didn't want a repeat of the Nixon/Kennedy debate and have their candidate seen to be sweating, so the strapped an ice pack on his back.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 10:17 PM

By George, I think you've got it.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 10:18 PM

On the other hand, I would have been somewhat bemused at seeing his backside drip.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 12:40 PM

Who Cares?

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 01:22 PM

Just shows you how so many people can be lulled into doubting what they have seen with their very own eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 03:13 PM

Roll on the day there'll be really reliable lie-detectors, and one strapped to everyone running for political office...

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 08:26 PM

How silly of the liberal press to kill that story. No wonder they lost the election.

Subject: RE: BS: What WAS That Lump on Bush Back?
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 10:48 PM

How odd that it was the New York Times. I wouldn't have believed it of them.

As for the BuSHITS, I would guess it is a case of their feeling that the end was so important that it justified the means. And to them and to the DougRs and the beardedbruces and the marvin gibbons and the larryks and all the other see-only-what-I-want-to-sees I'm sure that it does justify it.

I will never understand why we, the people, are lying down for this.