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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: GUEST,Arnie Date: 28 Oct 04 - 10:16 PM Unlike Bush, Kerry has done interviews with popular youth-culture media like Rolling Stone magazine, noting that he didn't think Bush would "fuck it up as badly as he (Bush) did." http://www.kaleo.org/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/10/04/4160e93dda71d "And you said, Fuck it? You're damn right. I said, "I'm going to be who I am" -- I think people care about authenticity. There are much bigger issues." http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6562106 Arnie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Oct 04 - 08:57 PM Old Guy... I'll bet you Kerry listens to this Rap song. Him and a couple of million young voters. Eminem Anti-Bush Video I'm not a rap fan but this is powerful this is very very well done Bravo Eminem! Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us, Mosh pits outside the oval office Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding, How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist Now this is our, final hour Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six Teen million people are equal of this high pitch Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech Let the President answer on high anarchy Strap him with AK-47, let him go Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes They've been swiped, washed out and wiped, And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Nerd Date: 27 Oct 04 - 01:50 AM OG: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ You'll have to bait someone else... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 27 Oct 04 - 01:42 AM Amos: Yes No Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 04 - 12:22 AM OLD GUY: You find you high school diploma yet? Did you pass Basic Civilization 1? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 27 Oct 04 - 12:15 AM Nerd: So you are bitching about my bitching? I want to see some proof that Kerry listens to Rap and Hip Hop. Did you get those RPGs yet? Did you find your brain yet? Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Nerd Date: 26 Oct 04 - 02:03 AM Old Guy, the twist is claiming that I was bitching about the Rap issue when you were the one bitching about it. You are downright ridiculous. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:28 AM Amos: Where is the twist? All I want is something to back up Kerry's words. I don't think it exists. Do you think it exists? And the word is disingenuous. You know like insincere? Some one is twisting my words. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:02 AM OG: You were the one bitching--why twist things even more? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: chris nightbird childs Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:01 AM Get a life! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:59 PM Nerd: Why are you bitching about such a trivial thing? I don't see the reason to search for something I don't think esists. Now prove to me that you don't have a brain. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Nerd Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:32 PM Sorry, Old Guy. You are accusing Kerry of lying about something pretty trivial. You brought it up. By any reasonable standard the burden of proof rests with you. Good Luck! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 25 Oct 04 - 12:06 PM I want to see some proof that Kerry listens to Rap and Hip Hop. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: jimlad Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:39 AM Why not just send Harry Windsor to Iraq instead of members of the Black Watch he a "fighty" sort of feller especially with 4 Heavies" as bodyguards |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:33 AM OG: Stop playing the fool. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:29 AM Is there any footage of Kerry listening to Rap or Hip Hop? Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:01 AM There is a lot of excellent footagte of the young Kerry in the recent release "Going Up River". They demonstrate a man of intelligence and a lot of courage. It is much more likely that he is being honest. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Nerd Date: 25 Oct 04 - 01:21 AM Old Guy, yes, I think he is being honest. And you have no evidence beyond your name-calling ("liberal elitist") and the faulty premise which you just made up ("white liberals from the Northeast don't listen to rap") that he doesn't. You may continue to beat a dead horse if you wish, but you're just being an asshole. The fact is, you're just railing like a lunatic on a point about which you have neither knowledge nor understanding. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 04 - 01:20 AM OG, Looney-Boy is an affectionate term I developed to refer to the current Resident and secondarily to his fat-cat cohorts. You are incorrect that I am fixated on it. Don't be absurd. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: chris nightbird childs Date: 25 Oct 04 - 12:21 AM No more speculation. No more statistics. Grow a back-bone. (Bet you're sorry ya won the war now...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 25 Oct 04 - 12:20 AM Amos: You are fixated on the term Looney-Boy. Are you associated in some way with a mental institution for children? Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 04 - 12:10 AM You're just making noise, OG. You have an opinion based on prejudice and a refusal to examine. And if you, like your Looney-Boy Resident,. believe that comapassion is horse-shit and that awareness is horse-shit, then you are obviosuly well suited to be a Bush supporter. He believes in neither of those things, whereas some folks think they are among the most important elements of a human being's character. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 11:55 PM Kerry told MTV: "I'm fascinated by rap and by hip-hop. I think that there's a lot of poetry in it. There's a lot of anger, a lot of social energy in it. Kerry said America's leaders disregard rap music at their peril, telling MTV, "I think you better listen to it pretty carefully because it's important.... I'm still listening, because I know that it's a reflection of the street and it's a reflection of life. And I understand all that." http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/30/232933.shtml Is Kerry being honest or not. I don't think he is being honest. He just wants votes and says things like this to get more votes. Pandering in other words. It is not mentioned in Rolling Stone but he says it on MTV. You can moan and groan that all of this has been answered but none of it has been answered. Excuses have been made for Kerry but nothing has been answered except with esoteric horseshit references to stuff like compassion and awareness. He pretends to fit in with the regular people. He goes to a Wendys and to eat and rub elbows and then he gets in his bus and and eats his real gourmet lunch catered by a country club. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: chris nightbird childs Date: 24 Oct 04 - 11:06 PM Oh yes, I absolutely agree... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Oct 04 - 11:03 PM This Guy is Kerry's favorite. That says all I need to know! GIVE ME SOME TRUTH Lead Vocals & Guitars: John Lennon Lead Guitar: George Harrison Bass: Klaus Voormann Piano: Nicky Hopkins Acoustic Guitar: Ron Linton Drums: Alan White GIVE ME SOME TRUTH (John Lennon) I'm sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth I've had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of Georgy Porgy Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of hope Money for dope Money for rope No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap Money for dope Money for rope I'm sick to death of seeing things From tight-lipped, condescending, mama's little chauvinists All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth now I've had enough of watching scenes Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap It's money for dope Money for rope Ah, I'm sick to death of hearing things from uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now I've had enough of reading things by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: chris nightbird childs Date: 24 Oct 04 - 10:57 PM "Do you take me for such a fool To think I'd make contact With the one who tries to hide What he don't know to begin with?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 24 Oct 04 - 09:53 PM Old Guy: I answered this question, and then I took the trouble to point out to you that I had answered it, and you have ignored me twice. Mister Kerry was expressing a sensitivity to the stress and anger that motivates usic such as rap, and said he was fascinated by it because it reveals these strains of emotion in the culture as a whole. That is a legitimate sociological proposition. The minds and hearts of subcultures are very often expressed more clearly in their music than anywhere else. As a politician it is his business to understand what different groups of people are experiencing, what is hindering them and what their feelings are. So he finds rap music to be a valuable indicator of the feelings beneath the surface in a certain sector of the American populace. I would too. I do not like rap music, but I can respect it as a medium of a group of people. Kerry can also. If you were a compassionate and aware politician, you would too. If Bush were competent and compassionate, he would as well. I expect you will not understand this post as written but will alter it to make it worse, or to make it seem less reasoned than it is. Let me advise you in advance this is the last offering I will make, out of a decent respect for discourse, to try to clarify what Mister Kerry said in the face of your obnoxious, persistent refusal to understand the viewpoint being presented. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 08:45 PM Rex: Evidently you are unable to define GWAR music. I am not aware if they are a minority. I found the lyrics on the net. No pictures or description. Nor was there any description of the genre. I could have been mistaken in assuming that it was rap music because I am not that familiar with it. You say it is not rap or hip hop but you can't say what it is. I attempted to give an example of what I thought rap music was for anybody that did not have any idea. I am not attemptint to demonise what ever style it is. The lyrics speaks for the music. Your racial accusations are totaly baseless. Neither of us knows if the other is black or white. I still don't the ethnicity of GWAR nor have I attempted to find out. And you still can't answer the question about Kerry. Do you think he is really as interested as he says he is in Rap or Hip Hop and do you think he is still listening to it? And also If he was being interviewed by Rolling stone Magazine, why wouldn't he mention the Rap Hip Hop genre as being one that he was facinated by and still listening to? My opinion, even if it pisses you off it is still my opinion and I am entitled to it amd I am entitled to state it publicly, is that Kerry only made the statement in a place where he thought it would win him some votes amongst the younger generation without loosing too many votes from others. I have even forgotten the place. It is a process known as pandering. And I don't believe that liberal elitists care for Rap or Hip Hop music. State your opinion and your beliefs but don't try to deny me mine. You can call me names and hurl accusations too but your civility will define your credibility. All Knowing Nerd: You haven't answered the question either. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Lepus Rex Date: 24 Oct 04 - 08:07 PM Heh. "OG." No, my "agenda" is to show (as if people didn't already know) that you are spouting off on subjects that you know absolutely nothing about, and spreading misinformation in an effort to discredit John Kerry. I don't care that you're old, and I REEEEEALLY don't care what you say about fucking Kerry. But when you attempt to demonise a style of music that you know nothing about, a style of music that just happens to have been created by and for the most part performed by an ethnic minority, the best of which is more meaningful, and more entertaining than anything you could ever dream of producing yourself, well... that bothers me, especially coming from someone like you. That you happened to stumble into one of the few folk-music fans that can actually recite "Slap U Around" from memory is just your bad luck. And damned good point, Greg. But do you know how few chances I get to discuss GWAR in life, let alone on a folk music forum? But I'm done, I promise. ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 07:35 PM Amos: Where the hell have you been? Getting a venom transfusion? Getting your blinders re-fitted? What kind of music do you think Kerry was referring to and why was he mentioning it at all? Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 24 Oct 04 - 06:59 PM Well posed, Greg. He keeps presenting the face of a sentient Terran. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Greg F. Date: 24 Oct 04 - 06:51 PM What species of masochism and futility is it that compels you folks into engaging this OG idiot over and over? Just curious. On a dead man's door you can knock forever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 05:56 PM Rex: So you are the Einstein of whatever kind of music you are talikng about but you seem to be keeping your definitions a secret. You are troling for someone to put down you or the music you won't name or define. I am not taking the bait. I will let your statements define you and the music define itself. The only thing I have understood so far is that GWAR is not Rap or Hip Hop. I think your agenda is to prove that older people don't know jack shit about your music. Is that a correct assumption? And again, If my assumption about what kind of music I thought Kerry was referring to, what kind of music do you think he was referring to? Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Lepus Rex Date: 24 Oct 04 - 05:35 PM But you were trying to pass off GWAR lyrics as Eminem lyrics, Old Guy, and you continue to misrepresent them as "rap" lyrics even though I've corrected you. Three times, or four, including this. With proof that they're not rap lyrics, even. Your initial ignorance is understandible; you are, by your own admission, and elderly man, and newfangled things like "rap" and "rock and roll" are probably... confusing. You found lyrics about kicking pregnant women, and you thought about Bill O'Reilly, and you got momentarily hungry for falafel, and then you thought "Yup, this is that rippity-rap music the negroes love! Who else would sing of such horrible things?" But like I said, I've corrected you four times. If your initial mistake was just incredible ignorance/laziness, fine. I forgive you. But, fuck, are you really so dense that you'll stubbornly cling to a falsehood even after you've been shown the truth? Ah, but you are a Bush man, aren't you. And click my link, stupid. ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Nerd Date: 24 Oct 04 - 05:01 PM You wanted some Rap lyrics that Kerry might endorse? Here's one that celebrates "all lifestyles" except drug use: "Goto goto goto goto Don't mess with crack or the baking soda Whether in the high rise where you live like Rhoda Or in the shack and you live like Yoda Once again it's on like a brand new morn Beatsie Beatsie Boys here to keep you all warm All you spazzes and you freaks Go and do your thing 'cause you're unique If it don't hurt nobody else than Don't be afraid to be yourself and Special dedication and so on to all lifestyles, sizes, shapes and forms" Another similar one from the Beasties: "Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens and Staten From the Battery to the top of Manhattan Asian, Middle-Eastern and Latin Black, White, New York you make it happen Shout out the South Bronx where my mom hails from Right next to High Bridge across from Harlem To the Grand Concourse where my mom and dad met Before they moved on down to the Upper West I see you're still strong after all that's gone on Life long we dedicate this song Just a little something to show some respect To the city that blends and mends and tests Since 911 we're still livin' And lovin' life we've been given Ain't nothing gonna take that away from us Were lookin' pretty and gritty 'cause in the city we trust Dear New York I know a lot has changed 2 towers down but you're still in the game Home to many rejecting no one Accepting peoples of all places, wherever they're from" And here's some directly addressing George W. Bush: "You build more bombs as you get more bold As your mid-life crisis war unfolds All you wanna do is take control Now put that Axis of Evil bullshit on hold." Yes, I can easily see Kerry grooving to the Beasties! Wyclef Jean of the Fugees has argued against the kinds of abuses US law enforcement makes in "Diallo": "Have you ever been held against your will? Taken to a dark place where not even scientists can reveal? So what is for Ceasar let it be for Ceasar Cause we don't want no peace We want equal rights and justice.. for Diallo, Diallo - similar to Steven Biko Diallo, Diallo - you tell me that the murder was an error Diallo, Diallo - but every man will be judged Diallo, Diallo - according to his words." Certainly, Kerry's arguments that you'd better listen to and be aware of this kind of sentiment are valid. And incidentally, when Howard Dean was asked what his favorite song was during one of the debates, it was a Wyclef Jean song! So we know Dean listens to rap. Anyway, Old Guy, the point is that there is plenty of valid and important political and social commentary in rap, and I don't doubt that Kerry knows a heck of a lot more about it than you do. But as always, you wear your ignorance as a badge of honor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 04:40 PM Rex: Actually I was looking to an Eminem piece about kicking a pregnant woman to death but all I could find was the GWAR thing. I am unaware of what they look like. I am not going to say anything negative about Rap / Hip Hop or what ever Genre you think Kerry was referring to. I will let each individual evaluate it on their own. Let the lyrics speak for the Genre. And I am not taking your black bait either. Are you assuming I am white? Naughty Naughty. That would be racist. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Lepus Rex Date: 24 Oct 04 - 04:20 PM Old Guy, as I told you, it's a song by GWAR, from their wonderful album "This Toilet Earth." Here is a link to those same lyrics. Check out GWAR's site. Not rap. Big hulking rubber monsters with guitars. Trust me on this. I've been listening to them since I was a kid. Did you just search through a list of "offensive" lyrics until you found one you "liked?" (Btw, "Baby Dick Fuck," "Rock 'n' Roll Never Felt So Good," or "Babyraper" would've been much more offensive GWAR songs) Why would you assume that these were "rap" lyrics? Do rappers (let's just say it, you're talking about black people) have a monopoly on offensive lyrics? As for why you have all of these weird misconceptions about what "rap" is, and view it so negatively... well, Nerd's covering that pretty well, so I'll shut up. :) ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Nerd Date: 24 Oct 04 - 03:51 PM Okay, let me put it this way, Old Guy. To "draw a conclusion" that is true, in a logical sense, requires that you begin with premises that are true. You simply made up one of your premises: liberal whites from the northeast do not listen to rap. That premise is not true. In fact, you probably don't know that one of the best-known rap groups in America since the 1980s has been made up entirely of what you would call "liberal elitists." (Since, you obviously know nothing about hip hop or rap, I refer to the Beastie Boys, whom I knew slightly in High School). No, you just made shit up, Old Guy. And I did not make THAT up. You like your sophistry and your intellectual masturbation, but your words are empty because you make up many of your premises and use them to draw faulty conclusions. As Amos says, it's a sad waste. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Oct 04 - 03:50 PM "Are you amongst the gullible or the greedy and selfish?" No I am not, and in case you are wondering. You are among the gullible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 03:47 PM Jack: Are you amongst the gullible or the greedy and selfish? You are certainly not amongst the curious and open minded. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 03:27 PM Rex: I am not an aficionasdo of Rap / Hip Hop or whatever those lyrics are. I assume that it is the same genre that Kerry says he is facinated by and still listens to. I could be mistaken He did not name any of his favorite artists. Maybe you could clarify things a little and give is some lyrics to the music that you think Kerry was referring to. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Oct 04 - 03:12 PM Kerry is curious and open minded. Bush is a brain damaged hillbilly wanabe who plays on the emotions of the gulible and counts on the silence of the greedy and selfish. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Lepus Rex Date: 24 Oct 04 - 02:41 PM Aw, and here I though GWAR had a senior citizens as a fan. Dammit! That was a truly entertaining image. And if Kerry is listening to GWAR, he's not listening to rap Well, "The Song of Words" was sung in a "rap" style, as was "Slaughterama and "Think You Oughta Know This," and "Salaminizer" is sort of a parody of NWA's "Gangsta Gangsta." But it would be hard to describe what a bunch of middle-aged guys dressed up like well-endowed comic book characters playing, basically, metal, as "rap." And "Slap U Around" isn't even close; They did that in a cheesy (sorry LH), cow-bell-y hair metal style. Very funny song, if you understand the context, which I doubt you do. Where did you get the idea "Slap U Around" was a rap song, anyways? ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 02:17 PM Rex: Just in case someone here is not familiar with the Rap Genre, it serves as an example of what Kerry claims to be facinated by and is still listening to. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Lepus Rex Date: 24 Oct 04 - 02:08 PM Old Guy, just because I'm really fucking curious, and because as far as I know you're the only other person (the other being me) who has quoted GWAR in Mudcat history: what was the GWAR quote supposed to prove? ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: chris nightbird childs Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:51 PM "One more cup of coffee for the road, one more cup of coffee before (we) go to the valley below" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Old Guy Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:43 PM SRS: I agree with you and I do not agree with you. Therefore all who agree with you should have a favorable impression of me. All who disagree with you will also have a favorable impression of me because I took an exception. Now that is truly a win/win situation. Amos: No I can't see the distinction. Yes is yes and no is no, Kerry trys to blur his positions so they suit everybody. Is there such thing as 3/4 yes or 1/4 no? Should we redefine what the words "for" and "against" mean so as to give credence to your candidate's dual positions? How about an Amos dictionary? Get another cup of coffee and snap out of it. Old Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:23 PM Old Guy said Strong minded people see both sides an realize there is a conflict. They conclude that anyone who is for and against everything is neither for or against anything. Then they look around for someone who has one position on the issues and they select him. You'd better hope for many more people in the world who can see both sides of issues and made intelligent choices based on what they see. Like your doctors, for example. It's the shades of gray that are going to save your sorry ass if you ever get sick, OG. "For and against" something is your reductive way of concluding that someone who has mixed feelings on a topic, who can state an arguement for and against and weigh the issues and make a decision on one side based on the best probable outcome is "one size fits all." Yeah, right. Dubya only sees in black and white, and doesn't have a clue on many issues beyond having made up his mind based on party ideolgy and then not budging from that position. You don't need a doctor or a government official who thinks like that. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: Amos Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:07 PM Please delete the reference to John Everett Millais, above. It is an accident and irrelevant to this thread. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry Interview with Rolling stone From: chris nightbird childs Date: 24 Oct 04 - 12:59 PM I happen to be quoting lyrics from Bob Dylan. Who is very intelligent, and his words are very RELEVANT right now. Rattling off a bunch of numbers isn't going to impress anyone. Now when Bill Clinton played the Sax, that was somethin' boy... |
