BS: pop music of today

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 05:50 PM

Yes, heinous, heinous, heinous

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 05:49 PM

gotta post, 'cause for one I TOTALLY agree with Clinton...rap is a heinous affectation designed to exaggerate cultural differences.

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 05:38 PM

I will. Rap sucks.

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: MBSLynne
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 05:36 PM

There's some bloody good pop music around at the moment! There's also some bloody awful. As duelling bouzoukis says, there always were both. The rubbish does seem more rubbishy than it used to be but perhaps that is age (me, I mean) I've bought more 'pop' music in the last year or two than I have done for ages.

Music, like all art, is a matter for personal preference anyway. I don't know how you can say that any music is 'good' or 'bad'

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 05:03 PM

Whoa! Daydream Believer was penned by a folk singer as in John Stewart who had recently left the Kingston Trio and was at the beginning of his very long solo folk career.

And I also agree, the Monkees recorded music for the most part has stood the test of time, as I believe that they felt that they were never comfortable in their manufactured roles and made a real effort towards some degree of artistry.

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 04:57 PM

"I think the main difference today, is that you can't expect to hear the best of current pop music on the radio."

Define 'best'... I dare you to try!

There is no 'best'... there's only what you like and what you don't like... IF you don't like what is on ONE radio station, use the knobs to change to a different station... if you don't like what you hear there, look further afield... if you've looked absolutely everywhere and you still find NOTHING you like, then yer a cranky old toss-pot and the world is better off without you....

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: alanabit
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 04:53 PM

I agree Dave. The odd thing about The Monkees, is that even though the concept of the band stank, the music really is more than bearable. No wonder really. The session musicians were brilliant and songs like "Another Pleasant Valley Sunday", "Daydream Believer" and "I'm A Believer" were among the best that Neil Diamond ever penned.
There always was plenty of crap pop music about. "Sugar Sugar" was some of the most unbearable garbage I have ever heard, yet it appeared in the same year as masterful singles by The Fleetwood Mac, The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. I think the main difference today, is that you can't expect to hear the best of current pop music on the radio. It's still out there though. You just have to look for it.

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 04:14 PM

since someone decided that the Monkees were a good idea.

Odd thing is that the Monkees, although initialy 'manufactured' did come good! It's only on listening years later that I realised it though. Just have a listen to some of the album tracks that were never released as singles to see what I mean.

Sorry though, Tam, got to agree with Clinton on this. Pop music of today is not all crap. Some is, but some is wonderful. I like to listen to most things and I find that there is good and bad in everything. I must admit I have never managed a full opera, jazz show or rap album but even there I find it very much like the curates egg - good in parts! I suspect it's because I can't realy relate to it like I can to the music I like though. (I can relate to songs about dead sailors and suicidal stuff from Leonard Cohen! How weird is that???)

Have you ever heard some of the 'collections' by folk lorists btw? Some of them old pub singers could have done with a dose of Simon Cowell:-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Metchosin
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 03:22 PM

Agreed duellingbouzoukis, it depends where you go for your pop music. There are tons of interesting young, live alternative and pop bands here on the west coast of Canada, including my daughter's Semi-Louise

proud Moms sometimes do this kind of thing........

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Chris Green
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:57 PM

I think what we're talking about is the manufactured, production-line pop that has befouled our airwaves since someone decided that the Monkees were a good idea. Bands that write, arrange and perform their own music are a different kettle of fish!

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:52 PM

I hope I never get as old and closed-minded as you, "Tam The Bam"...

Cause when YOU were a kid, old people said the same thing about your music...

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: pdq
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:40 PM

I think you are seeing the degrading of Popular Music by "non-judgementalism".

Also, the record producers have long realized that the public will buy anything if they convince people it is "in".

Some hope exists on smaller lables. Check out Rounder, Sugar Hill and Shanachie. Each has a web site listing their artists schedules.

I seldom buy CDs the minute they come out, but I did get Raul Malo's "Nashville Acoustic Sessions", a 2004 release. Malo is the lead voice in "The Mavericks". It is an almost perfect use of acoustic musicians to deliver Pop, County, Folk and even Rock standards. Even a nice Dylan cover. If CMH keeps these standards of quality on other releases it will be another lable to follow in the future.

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:26 PM

I am not a fan of much what is called pop music today, but some of what is labeled as country but is really pop is passable. Passable as listenable pop, but I do not even try to compare it to what is traditional country. In other words, I don't knock it for what it isn't.

You have to realize that for the most part, you are in the minority if you do not like it.

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: dunkel_esel
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:21 PM

hehe. Pop music is sooo cheesy and hellish is totally amazing! think spice girls (the ones my uncle calls the slapper girls) - the public could never live without pop music!

hehe.
probably not a gd time to say have fallen in love with lindisfarne...

mjxx

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:14 PM

Never thought pop music was shite, although the precentage has grown in recent years, I think. From the Police, Dire Straits, The Cars and many other 80's groups (and UB40.) to the present. there seems to be less and less "live" groups. But, over here, there are still interesting groups (at least interesting to me.) Fountains of Wayne (an admittedly odd name) have done some good stuff, I like Jason Mraz and even Jimmy Eat World. New groups like Jet are getting back to more casic rock with a lot of energy, and groups like Smashmouth have put out some good stuff (to my ears.)

Now, if you're watching a "talent" contest (like American Idol in this country,) You know in advance what you're going to hear. Everyone is going to try to sound as much like the singers who are big hits, lip-syncing and dancing. You're going to get plastic pop. I have yet to watch even five minutes of American Idol, over here.

Still Rockin' In The Free World.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: pop music of today
From: Chris Green
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 01:58 PM

I'm under 30. I agree. But leave us not forget that in the "golden age" of the 60s crap like Engelbert Humperdinck regularly could be found in the top ten. Pop music has always been shite, but sometimes if you trawl through enough shite you do come up with a gem!

Subject: BS: pop music of today
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 01:30 PM

I having watching the x factor on televison and they put a dickhead called 'tabby' the boy couldn't sing, he was really crap and yet he's one of the finalist, but mind you now to be a pop singer and I use that term loosely, they mime and they try and dance in other words they are bloody crap, what has happened to live music, the young ones today go to a concert and they lsiten to a group of tossers and loosers and wankers, that just jiggle and mime, and then they bugger off after their 20 minutess on stage and people pay a fortune for that.
If I wanted that I could buy the cd and play it in my home and that will save me a fortune.
That's why I put this shite in non music because that's what it is.