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In Quest of a Songbook: Irish Emigrant Ballads...

GUEST,Ed 29 Nov 04 - 07:40 AM
MartinRyan 29 Nov 04 - 07:47 AM
Burke 29 Nov 04 - 04:46 PM
MartinRyan 29 Nov 04 - 04:54 PM
Rustic Rebel 30 Nov 04 - 12:24 AM
Peace 30 Nov 04 - 12:32 AM
GUEST,Ed 30 Nov 04 - 04:40 AM
MartinRyan 30 Nov 04 - 04:44 AM
Rapparee 30 Nov 04 - 11:54 AM
Rapparee 30 Nov 04 - 10:46 PM
GUEST,Ed 01 Dec 04 - 07:57 AM
GUEST 01 Dec 04 - 09:03 AM
GUEST 01 Dec 04 - 09:07 AM
Burke 01 Dec 04 - 06:51 PM
Joe Offer 02 Dec 04 - 11:58 PM
GUEST,Ed 19 Jan 05 - 09:32 AM
ejsant 19 Dec 06 - 09:24 AM
MartinRyan 19 Dec 06 - 11:18 AM
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Subject: In Quest of a Song Book
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 07:40 AM

Greetings All,

I am in search of the song book entitled "Irish Emigrants, Ballads and Songs" edited by Robert L. Wright and published in 1975 by Bowling Green University Press. I have searched the Internet to no avail, I have even contacted the Bowling Green University library. If I may impose I would certainly welcome your thoughts and/or assistance in my quest. Thank you for your time.

Peace,
Ed


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 07:47 AM

Ed

If you get TWO offers - pass one to me! It doesn't seem to turn up very often.

Regards


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: Burke
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 04:46 PM

An extra 's' in your title is making it harder for you to find it.

The correct title is: Irish emigrant ballads and songs.


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 04:54 PM

Burke

That's true - but, believe me, it's still scarce!

Regards


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 12:24 AM

Hi Ed, I see the book is out of print but the ""Irish Emigrant Ballads and Songs" (Amazon), edited by Robert L. Wright, was found in the New York City Public Library/Performing Arts Branch. That's all I found on a search. Know anyone in New York?


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: Peace
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 12:32 AM

Irish emigrant ballads and songs (in MARION)

Google that.

I don't know if there is such a thing as inter-library loans in the US, but Rapaire would know about that stuff and how to find what libraries would have the book. Borrow it and make a photocopy. Not a big deal because it's out of print, and I don't think anyone would mind all that much. Give Rapaire a message and see.


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 04:40 AM

Greetings Burke,

My searches were with-out that sneaky little extra "s", but thank you for the thought.

Greetings Rustic Rebel,

I am but a twenty minute bus ride to NYC. Midtown is actually only about four or five miles from my home but one cannot move around this area quickly. I will check out the library today, thank you. I searched Amazon both US and UK and didn't notice the library having a copy.

Greetings Martin,

You're in if I find it.


Peace,
Ed


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: MartinRyan
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 04:44 AM

I can get at copies in libraries here in Ireland, of course - but draw the line at theft!

Regards


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 11:54 AM

If you find three copies for sale somewhere...well, let me know about the third.

Okay, to get a copy to use AND return:

1. Go down to your local public library.
2. Tell them (probably the Reference Department) that you want to borrow a book on Interlibrary Loan.
3. Fill out the form.
4. Give the form back to them.
5. Pick up the book when they get it for you, and pay the associated fees (postage, etc.), if any.

6(optional). Before you do this, get a library card and/or pay any fines and stuff you might have outstanding -- and bring back any books you might have overdue.

7(not optional). Support your public library, including voting for additonal monies for buildings and operating funds. Public libraries have to pay for books, CDs, DVDs, water, heat, electricity, computers, Internet access, salaries (poor though they are), and other stuff just like you do. You might also consider voluteering your talents as a musician or storyteller.


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 10:46 PM

Another option: use World Cat. To do this you'll need to use your local public or academic library.

World Cat, a service of OCLC, lists the locations of something like 78,000,000 titles worldwide, most published since 1971 but certainly not by any means restricted to those dates. You do need a login and password, because OCLC doesn't supply the service to libraries for free.

But if you possibly can, become familiar with World Cat.


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 07:57 AM

Greetings Rapaire,

I am off to my local Library today, thank you for all your help and I promise to return the book if I am able to borrow it. I do not have any books out currently so I suspect I would be welcomed.

I am also in search of first person accounts of Irish emigrants to the US from the later eighteenth through the early twentieth century. I would be elated to find the journals of any of the canal, railroad, or coal mining laborers in the NY, NJ, and PA area.

Thank you to all for your help as well. I am still interested in purchasing a copy of this song book for my personal collection.

Peace,
Ed


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 09:03 AM

Ed,

According to the Borders Book website, your local Borders store may be able to hunt down a copy for you. In the meantime, I just might have a copy, but I'm not positive. When I get home this evening, I'll check through my stacks of music books. If I come across it, I'll let you know through this thread. Considering I obviously don't use it (since I'm not sure I have it), I'll be glad to send it to you with my compliments.

Also, you may want to check out the Library of Congress at this link:

http://catalog.loc.gov/

(I tried to use the blue clicky maker, but it hasn't worked, apparently.) Just do a basic search for the title and it'll come right up. They've got 2 copies.

I'll be back here this evening.

S


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 09:07 AM

I guess the blue clicky thing did work. Pardon my ignorance. That was my first try, so I didn't realise the link wouldn't appear to me as a clickable linke until I actually submitted my post. I'll know the next time.

Cheers

S


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book
From: Burke
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 06:51 PM

I had actually searched WorldCat to get the correct title. IIRC, there were @200 libraries with holdings attached. I was going to suggest the borrow & copy routine, but at >400 pages, that's a lot of copying.

As Rapaire indicated, Interlibrary loans are library to library, not usually some remote library direct to you. You don't need to know what library has it, your library worries about that based on their lending partners. New York State interlibrary cooperation is not as well coordinated as, say, Ohio. The State does fund cooperative services, so you should be able to get it from somewhere.


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book: Irish Emigrant Ballads...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 11:58 PM

Now that we have the title right, I've been able to find many reverences to the book right here at Mudcat. Looks like Robert L.Wright himself posted a message here (click). Can't find any copies for sale, though.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book: Irish Emigrant Ballads...
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 09:32 AM

Greetings All,

Many thanks to all that have offered their help and thoughts. I am still in search of a copy of this song book. I may have located a copy in a local University's library. I will know more later today. Even if there is one in their holdings for me to review and perhaps copy I am still in search of a copy for my personal library.

I am also looking to add to my personal library a copy of "The Journal of Andrew Leary O'Brien; Foreword and notes by Annette McDonald Suarez. Athens, The University of Georgia press, 1946".

Both these publications are anticipated to be important resources in a song writing and collecting project I have embarked upon. As always any help is most graciously appreciated.

Peace,
Ed


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book: Irish Emigrant Ballad
From: ejsant
Date: 19 Dec 06 - 09:24 AM

Greetings,

Well I am very happy to report that my quest for this elusive book has ended, and a fine ending it has been. For my 50th birthday this past Sunday my dear friend Perry Werner of Pawprint Books presented me with an outstanding copy.

If you are in search of one of these elusive resources I would strongly recommend that you contact Perry as he seems to be able to turn up that which others have not or cannot.

Peace,
Ed


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book: Irish Emigrant Ballads...
From: MartinRyan
Date: 19 Dec 06 - 11:18 AM

Ha! Was just thinking (again) about this book lately! Must set to and find a copy - too late for 50th birthday, I'm afraid...

Well done

Regards


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Subject: RE: In Quest of a Song Book: Irish Emigrant Ballads...
From: oldhippie
Date: 19 Dec 06 - 03:34 PM

I wonder if the 2002 Green Linnet CD "Castles of Gold" (songs and stories of Irish immigration) is related to this text.


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