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Subject: BS: martin gibson From: GUEST Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:22 PM I'm thinking very hard of knocking Mudcat on the head after a few years of pleasure. Most of it came from the good sense and humanity of Rick Fielding, but now it seems there's a poisonous gnome who never leaves the computer and comes in on every thread with his bigotry, arrogance and intolerance. He seems to have executed a one man coup. He does represent the way the world seems to be going and I'm getting tired of fighting it and being depressed by it.Is there anywhere we can go to get away from this Neanderthal and the triumphalist ignorance he so brilliantly represents? |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: jacqui.c Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:29 PM All I do is ignore any of his posts. If no one reacts to them, hopefully he would give up and go away, or decide to be a bit more civilised. I will not give up a site that has given me so much pleasure and made me so many new friends, just because one very unhappy human being can't control his base nature. That really would mean letting him win. |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: curmudgeon Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:34 PM Don't knock gnomes and Neanderthals -- Tom |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: Richard Bridge Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:34 PM Just dump on him every time he appears. Perhaps he is not too stupod to learn (perhaps). |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: George Papavgeris Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:41 PM You can probably filter out his postings in some way. But in any case - ignore... |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: Richard Atkins Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:03 PM Guest this is what the Sad Barstard wants. Dont leave Mudcat and best wishes to you. Dont want his name mentioned on a thread though :>} |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: Big Al Whittle Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:23 PM Martin knows a fair bit about guitars . He helped me with something a week or so ago. I don't suppose he's a bad chap, but he says nasty things that could hurt and depress somebody who was vulnerable - and maybe lead to a suicide. Thats what worries me about him. But maybe the thing to do is to PM him and talk to him about your concerns rather than start a thread slagging him off. I have a good friend who is a bit like Martin - acerbic in his comments, shall we say. I've got to admit I do find myself avoiding him. I know his unkind words spring from a deep unhappiness about the nature of his life, but even such insights are no protection when you don't feel that great yourself. And lets face it into each life, a ton of shit must fall. In a way the saddest and worst thing about Martin's e-mails are the times when he reassures us that his life is hunky dory. A sort of Norman Rockwell painting with with the choicest items from the Martin and Gibson catalogue never more than an arms length away - presumably rosy cheeked children and a fine woman perpetually hungry for his love with major walk-on parts. Hi honey I'm home, just back from another great gig for people who really love my music. My God, I'm just wonderful..... Anybody with even an elementary knowledge of the human condition knows that its only the shitty parts of life that provide a few laughs. Chaucer knew it, Shakespeare knew it, Buster Keaton knew it, Woody Allen.......... Doubtless he feels that he is pricking our pomposity, self importance and delusions about life. Most of us have enough pricks in our life as it is, and some people have just too many to bear. Whatever your life is like Martin, if you are reading this. Nobody on this site wants to hurt you or cause you harm - not personally - what ever reaction you have gotten from them. all the best Big Al |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: michaelr Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:30 PM I don't usually respond to nameless Guests (get yerself a handle, why dontcha?) But I will venture this: Filter out the BS threads, and Martin Gibson - poof! - magically goes away! That's because, although he claims to be a musician, he rarely has anything to say on musical topics. Instead, he uses this forum to vent his numbskull neofascist politics. Who needs it? Cheers, Michael |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: Leadfingers Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:42 PM It simply amplifies my point that any one who is worth paying any attention to is prepared to put in a profile , so we can at least see what what they think they are on about . |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: Peter Kasin Date: 13 Jan 05 - 09:37 PM As ascerbic as he is, Martin does offer some very helpful advice in the music threads. I sense a sort of sadistic "gotcha!" attitude when he's on his game in the BS threads. I'd say counter his arguments, and don't attack the man (IMO). Chanteyranger |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: number 6 Date: 13 Jan 05 - 09:50 PM Just ignore the stupid rants specifically in the BS threads. I must say I'm amazed that the 'insanity' thread has gone on as it has. I found it was boring after the first day it appeared. I agree fully with Leadfingers on the 'profile' bit. The Mudcat is still an excellent site in spite of the MG rants and all. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: dianavan Date: 13 Jan 05 - 10:13 PM Martin Gibson has no power except that which we give him. I am as guilty as the rest of you when I respond to his posts. He's a schmuck that craves attention - any kind of attention. |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: Bobert Date: 13 Jan 05 - 10:21 PM Being the idiot who started the "insanity thread", sIx, I couldn't agree with you more about it... Like I said on another thread, "I thought it would get half a doxen hits and fall off into Max's black hole..." 'Er somethin' like that... Now as fir Martin's posts... One nice thing about them is that when they are skatilogical of genetal in nature they are short so you only have to click fir a half second and you are beyond them. Kinda reminds me of the old joke about the woman who calls the cops because her neighbor is exposing himself. When the cop shows up she has him look out her window when the neighbor was using the bathroom. "Sorry, Mrs. Smith, but I can't see that your neigbor is exposoing himself to you." to which Mrs. Smith responds, "Well, Officer, if you stand up here on this chest of drawers...." I mean, no one holds a gun to anyone's head making them read anything they don't want to read... Yeah, Martin seems to get a kick out of his juvenilish junior high school posts. So what? It's your clicker... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: dianavan Date: 13 Jan 05 - 10:32 PM I seem to enrage him. He responded to my post at 11:44 A.M and stayed on the computer until 6:01 P.M. slobbering all over assorted Mudcat threads. Gee - You'd think for a big wheel executive, marketing executive, he might have something better to do on a Thursday afternoon. Seems the only things he has to sell are bogus lies and disdain for rational thought. |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: GUEST,in a tight vest Date: 13 Jan 05 - 10:50 PM if he exists for real... hes a wanker ! if he is a role-play alternative personality, fabricated by any one of you guys... you're twice as much a wanker !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 13 Jan 05 - 11:02 PM I believe Guest of the first post is correct. Not much else to tell you. Art |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: Cluin Date: 14 Jan 05 - 12:22 AM He certainly gets a lot of attention around here. At this point there are 2 threads with his posting name in the title. There are many more people around here who contribute a lot of constructive posts who don't get any attention at all. Martin Gibson is to you only what you let him be. South of the BS line I pretty much ignore him because I find his one liner jabs boring and predictable, but that's okay because I take nothing in the BS section seriously anyway. But he has contributed a few things in music threads and, really, that's what this forum is supposed to be about. Lots of bullshit flame war forums to be found all over the Web as well as Usenet. But this is the best musical forum I've come across. |
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Subject: RE: BS: martin gibson From: DougR Date: 14 Jan 05 - 12:42 AM Right. Let's censor the Mudcat! Those who write messages that do not agree with us (whoever us is) should be banned from posting. That's the progressive POV is it? DougR
From Joe Offer: SRS was in the process of posting a long message when this thread was being closed, so I agreed to let SRS get in one last word:Joe, I was preparing a post, only to find this thread closed when I sent it. I'd like to you consider possibly adding this as one last post before it is closed. This is what I was sending. Thanks! SRS I recognize guest of the first post. This individual makes consistently valuable contributions to the site, mostly on the music end of things, but offers some caring support when called for, and sprightly BS on occasion. This individual is private, mature, and discreet, leading to my surmise that said member-acting-as-guest doesn't want to be pounced upon or stalked. That does seem to happen around here all too often. Starting a thread with someone's moniker is rather like waving a red flag. From here it looks like an act of desperation--a "him or me" kind of cry in the virtual dark. It's too bad it has come to this, but I've seen some good friends, kind and intelligent and caring people trounced by Martin, and have had my share of entanglements with him. Every so often Martin shows a glimmer of real insight and humanity, and at those times he is caring and charming. But then he does a bipolar flip-flop into biting the Mudcat hand that feeds him. This tends to make one real stand-offish when he decides to inhabit a thread (unless it is the Mudcat Tavern, where he was sumarily dumped into the lime-green jello pit by an irate giant squid). I've seen a few characters go through quite remarkable transformations here at Mudcat. Perhaps that will happen with whoever the individual is who is behind the monkier "martin gibson." I can only counsel the original poster to be patient, but don't be too scarce. You're the kind of folkie that Mudcat is made for (and you introduced me to the place, for which I am eternally greatful!) |