Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,milk monitor Date: 16 Feb 05 - 06:52 PM It should take about twelve months for Camilla to become the 'nations sweetheart'. The Sun will urge Joe Public to love the little lady who has made Charlie's heart sing. The glossy mags will be full of style makeovers with Camillaesque models. The wedding will be celebrated with much flag waving at Windsor. She reminds me of a cross between Vera Lynn and June Whitfield (in Ab Fab.)In looks only, I know next to nothing about how she thinks, apart from her hunting fervour, which will be contentious, but forgotten as she follows the ban. Until a long range snapper captures her doing something unspeakable in Scotland. In another twelve months she will then be ripped apart and thrown to the hounds for being rude to a servant. All good news for the print. Gawd bless 'em. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Feb 05 - 07:59 PM I think the first part of milk monitor's analysis is spot on. As for "something unspeakable in Scotland" - hunting with dogs is already banned in Scotland, as also in the Isle of Man. It's still legal in Northern Ireland, but it's been indicated from both sides up there that they wouldn't really much like having English foxhunters turning up. Life is complicated enough already. But in the Republic it might be a different story - it's still being promoted by Bord Failte, the Tourist Board, and I'm sure they'd love a Royal visit. Here's a site selling the idea of a foxhunting trip to Galway - "Foxhunting in Ireland." |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Andrew Milner Date: 16 Feb 05 - 08:05 PM Heard Queen Liz has told her oldest son that cohabiting (for want of a better euphemism) with Mrs. Parker Bowles is out of bounds until after the marriage. Now that's what I call being out of touch. A bad case of closing the stable door ... Maybe a good woman can straighten Charles out and turn him into monarch material. But then again perhaps all he needs is a footman, good, bad or indifferent. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,milk monitor Date: 16 Feb 05 - 08:07 PM Ah, good re the hunting ban, s'pose they won't even chance it in Balmoral then. I'm genetically modified not to be able to criticise Galway though. :) |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Maui Babe Date: 17 Feb 05 - 10:52 AM Eagle Wing Mahalo for the history. 300 years ago and still not changed. Wow. Aloha MB |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Big Al Whittle Date: 17 Feb 05 - 12:08 PM ho wow! theres a reason, we don't have a catholic queen. I thought we just didn't like them. well if theres a reason, well we definitely won't have one. is there a reason we can't have a Frrench queen, cos lets face it, we're not really keen on them.....? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: mindblaster Date: 17 Feb 05 - 01:22 PM I noticed that they've switched venue from Windsor Castle to The Guildhall. This was because it would have cost the tight fisted Charles money to get a special licence for The Castle premises £500 apparently. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: John MacKenzie Date: 17 Feb 05 - 01:41 PM It's because if they licence it for wedding ceremonies the licence runs for 3 years, and anybody could demand to use the venue, don't want the hoi polloi coming in now do we? Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah2 Date: 17 Feb 05 - 03:43 PM If you had seen some of my neighbours (white ones, in case anyone misinterprets this) when I lived in Lewisham, you would see that this is quite reasonable. The hoi-polloi already have extensive access to the castle anyway. Charlie too tight-fisted to pay 500 quid... SUCH bollocks. I'm convinced that these absurd things, which Royal haters so eagerly swap with a complete lack of the critical thinking they would apply to almost anything else, originate somewhere in the dirty underpants of the Murdoch owned press (ie, most of it). Rupert Murdoch... now there's a man whose republican fanaticism gives you an insight into the joys of a constituional Monarchy... |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 Feb 05 - 03:47 PM President Murdoch - now there's a thought. After all, that fascist fellow traveller media magnate Berlusconi was able to con his way into the job of Prime Minister in Italy. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Royalist1 Date: 18 Feb 05 - 12:47 AM Camilla would make a good President. She is high-born but with the common touch. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Liz the Squeak Date: 18 Feb 05 - 03:08 AM It may only have been £500 for the license, but the alterations required by law to bring Windsor Castle up to DDA standards (Disability Discrimination Act - public buildings are required to be DDA compliant) with stairlifts, ramps, toilet facilities - in areas that are presently not accessible to the public (not on the tour) would have been considerably more expensive and not physically possible before April 8th. Add the fact that the castle is a Grade I Listed building and all sorts of laws and recommendations have to be followed before any alterations are done; and it would be a logistical nightmare. The town hall is already DDA compliant and so is the next best venue. I've never been to Windsor, but I suspect the bits that are open to the public normally are DDA compliant, with altnernative routes, ramps and lifts where necessary. LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: mindblaster Date: 18 Feb 05 - 12:04 PM You're talking about a bloke who claimed money from lottery funds to do up one of his buildings (down in Devon or Cornwall) by using a loophole in the application criteria. The cost was £500 there were no DDA requirements. I've actully met this geezer several times. Did you know that most of his staff are on minimum wage. He even has special screwing devices to get the very lat bit of toothpaste out of the tube.Used to go on free holidays abroad under the guise of a director of the Commonwealth Development Corporation - itself an organisation that exploited child slave labour in the third world. I have no time for this type of inbred decendant of murdering theives rubbish - The Guillotine I say |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah2 Date: 18 Feb 05 - 01:50 PM Sounds like your mind has well and truly been blasted mate. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: EagleWing Date: 18 Feb 05 - 02:02 PM ho wow! theres a reason, we don't have a catholic queen. I thought we just didn't like them. well if theres a reason, well we definitely won't have one. is there a reason we can't have a Frrench queen, cos lets face it, we're not really keen on them.....? If Edward had had his way we'd have had an American Queen. Don't know if that's relevant. Just thought I'd mention it. Frank L. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: EagleWing Date: 18 Feb 05 - 02:06 PM "If you had seen some of my neighbours (white ones, in case anyone misinterprets this) when I lived in Lewisham, you would see that this is quite reasonable. The hoi-polloi already have extensive access to the castle anyway." I lived in Lewisham for the first 18 years of my life - mind you, that 40 odd years ago when almost all the neighbours were white - and we were a pretty good set of hoi polloi all told. Frank L. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Liz the Squeak Date: 18 Feb 05 - 04:21 PM According to documents recently declassified, if Edward had his way, we'd've had a former lover of Von Ribbentrop as Queen.... LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Terry K Date: 19 Feb 05 - 05:19 AM I just think it's really ill mannered of everyone to make cheap jibes about Camilla's looks. She may not be a raving beauty, but then how many people are (there are even people who say I'm not!). And she's not exactly the elephant man either, so I say leave her alone. And him. Good luck to them I say, at least she doesn't seem to be just a silly young tart on the make. cheers, Terry |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: nutty Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:08 AM HERE'S ANOTHER FLY IN THE OINTMENT Apparently Andrew Parker-Bowles is a Catholic and Camilla's children have been raised as Catholics. As the Catholic Church does not recognise divorce, Camilla (in their eyes) is still a married woman. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,milk monitor Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:44 AM If Charlie was king, and Camilla was queen.....and charlie died, would Camilla be able to carry on as queen or would it go to William? Also do her kids have any claims to the throne in that case? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: jacqui.c Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:54 AM No claim to the throne for Camilla's kids. Camilla would, maybe, become the Dowager Queen, if she had been given the title of queen or the Dowager Duchess of Cornwall, possibly, but William would become king. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,milk monitor Date: 19 Feb 05 - 09:07 AM Thanks jacqui. So why wasn't Phillip called King? Or doesn't it work that way? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:18 PM McGrath of Harlow, which James the II were you referring to? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:49 PM Well Phil the Greek was made a Duck when they married, and worked his way up to being a Ponce. Incidentally to add to all the shock horror, mistresses and bonking on the side type rumours. A friend of mine who was in the Scots Guards reckoned it was common knowledge amongst the cognoscenti that Phil the Greek used to regularly bonk more than one of the stable girls at Windsor. Consecutively rather than concurrently I mean. Giok ¦¬] |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:36 PM James II of England and VII of Scotland. He thought that, if there was going to be an end to discrimination against Catholics, which naturally, as a Catholic he wanted, it had to be accompanied by an end to the parallel discrimination against Protestant dissenters and others. Hence the Declaration of Indulgence in 1687, which 1. suspended all penal laws in matters ecclesiastical for not attending the established Church of England or not receiving communion according to its rites; 2. permitted people to worship other than in the established Church of England either in private houses or in chapels; 3. ended the requirement that people take various religious oaths before advancement to civil or military office. The declaration applied to Catholics, Protestants, Unitarians, Jews, Muslims, and people of any or even no faith. Of course this didn't go down with people who wanted discrimination to continue. Clearly this kind of madness could not be allowed to continue, and once King James had been driven out, it was brought back. Moe especially forcibly and ferociously, of course, in Ireland. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Liz the Squeak Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:05 PM Would Camilla even be Dowager Queen..? she's not related to the boys at all. My understanding of Dowager is widow holding property or title recieved from husband, so if she's never queen...... LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:55 PM Queen Step-mother? Like in Snow White. Whether she's called Queen or not wouldn't make any difference - as consort any title is just a courtesy one, it doesn't carry any sort of authority. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Liz the Squeak Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:27 PM Huh... try telling HER that! LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Big Al Whittle Date: 20 Feb 05 - 02:00 PM This is to tell you Queen Camilla that in matters of state - your hands not on the tiller if your sphere was sport you'd most often be thought Of as something twixt Tranmere or Aston Villa that sort of thing Liz? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Philip (not that one) Date: 21 Feb 05 - 02:04 AM Camilla is better than all of us because 1. She will be the second woman in the land. 2. She herself is upper class. 3. She will be royal when she marries. The above doesn't apply to The Queen |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Georgie Mac Date: 21 Feb 05 - 09:51 AM "better" did you say BETTER? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Philip Date: 21 Feb 05 - 07:00 PM Yes its the natural order of things. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,ragdall Date: 05 Apr 05 - 07:49 AM Now that they've changed the wedding from Friday to Saturday, to allow Charles to attend the Pope's funeral, what is to become of all the Royal Wedding souvenirs which have already been produced with the original date on them? Will they all have the 8 crossed out and 9 printed above it? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: IanC Date: 05 Apr 05 - 07:52 AM Probably not. I've got ab Edward VIII Coronation biscuit tin (any offers?) :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,H Date: 05 Apr 05 - 07:59 AM "can't get away to marry you today..." |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: harpgirl Date: 05 Apr 05 - 09:23 AM Sure, IanC. I'll take 5 bucks to take it off your hands! |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Wolfgang Date: 05 Apr 05 - 12:18 PM with the original biscuits?? Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: IanC Date: 05 Apr 05 - 12:19 PM Possibly - I haven't looked recently. ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Linda Kelly Date: 05 Apr 05 - 01:55 PM The really important question is though- should Ken and Dierdre have postponed the wedding? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Liz the Squeak Date: 05 Apr 05 - 03:32 PM The souveniers with the wrong date will be worth more in the future.... the ones with the wrong date for whichever coronation got postponed for appendicitis are worth far more than the ones with the actual date on. The King's appendix was a ground breaking operation carried out by Frederick Treves, who was the surgeon from the London Hospital who cared for 'The elephant man' Joseph Merrick. Frederick Treves was born in the town 2 miles from where I was born. Todays useless information. LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Crane Driver Date: 05 Apr 05 - 04:16 PM I gather that, now they've moved the wedding, it clashes with the Grand National (horse race, in case any trans-ponders are reading this) on Saturday. Bet Charlie sometimes wishes he never bothered. BTW, I loved the BBC's April Fool report. They invented an old "law" which said that, in any Royal marriage where there were children from previous marriages, the eldest child would take precedence. Since Camilla's are older than Charlie's, that would give us "King Tom" sometime in the future. Who really cares these days? Andrew |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: GUEST,Jas Date: 07 Apr 05 - 06:48 AM My God / if they ever have children they will be awfully ugly weans |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: jacqui.c Date: 07 Apr 05 - 08:04 AM Thankfully, short of test tube technology Camilla is too old now to get pregnant. Mind you, if Charlie had had the courage of his convictions many years ago she would have been the Princess of Wales and produced the heir to the throne. Not a pretty thought! |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Paco Rabanne Date: 07 Apr 05 - 08:40 AM I do hope the wedding is televised. I shall definitely watch it. At last he is marrying the right woman! Foxhunting, the true path |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: saulgoldie Date: 07 Apr 05 - 04:00 PM Frankly, I find it all a big bore. As royalty goes, at least in the colonies we MAKE our royalty pretend to earn their keep. And as entertainment, well maybe you have something there. But as entertainment goes, they produce small quantity and low quality compared to the pros who otherwise grace the tabloid pages and who cost far less. But I suspect that I a mmissing the point... |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Big Al Whittle Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:19 PM Camilla is a fox? |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Nancy King Date: 07 Apr 05 - 11:45 PM This column provided me with several good giggles. And I love the picture.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: dianavan Date: 08 Apr 05 - 03:04 AM That just about says what has been on my mind off and on. Charles finally has the guts to marry the love of his life and almost instantly has the guts to voice his opinion of the press at the same time. I think Camilla is actually making a man out of Charles. I always hoped he would reveal himself but he has been harnassed by mom and dad for so long that we don't really know what he is about. Mow that Camilla has made him a man, perhaps he will be a true king. He might actually have the strength to something good with all his power and money. One can only hope. |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Liz the Squeak Date: 08 Apr 05 - 03:10 AM Dangerously close to 300 here....... LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Charles to marry Camilla From: Liz the Squeak Date: 08 Apr 05 - 03:11 AM Whoo hooo!! 300!!! Am I on a roll or what?! LTS |