BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 08:02 PM

Actually, that last one contains 2 thoroughly negative thoughts...

"bastards"

and being ground down...

It's not really a positive thought at all, it just sort of sounds that way.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 07:30 PM

I thought positive thinking just meant things like "always look on the bright side" or "cheer up, it may never happen" , or indee "whistle while you work" and "keep smiling through", "while there's life there's hope" and indeed, "don't let the bastards grind you down"...

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 06:39 PM

No, positive thinking, speaking, and behaviour are anything but satanic.

Believing in duality, though, might indeed be termed "satanic" and it is that type of thinking that presupposes the existence OF Satan in the first place! :-)

(unless you take Satan as a metaphor for man's own destructive thinking, which I do...)

I'll tell you what's satanic (in effect)...divisive and hostile thinking. Thinking which pits people against one another. Preferring to be "right" than to be happy or loving. Conspiring to dominate others and control their thoughts is satanic. Thinking which identifies otheres as enemies and proposes one's own superiority or exclusivity in comparison to those others is satanic. Hatred is satanic. Jealousy is satanic. Envy is satanic. Contempt is satanic. Loathing is satanic. Condemnatory judgement of others (and self) is satanic. Recognition of moral responsibility is positive.

It can be plainly seen that various extreme zealots on BOTH sides of any war or hostile dispute are indulging in various types of extremely negative thinking.

Thinking which divides is negative. Thinking which unites is positive.   Examine the lives of Gandhi and Jesus for pointers on positive thinking.

As for the Net, Dewey, yes it is full of much negativism and wild, sensationalist stuff....some of which is probably true, much of which is not. Figuring out which is which is tricky, but whatever one decides may be true, it should not lead one to hate other people, regardless of whether one disagrees with them on some political issue or not.

It should be possible to disagree with people and still respect them...and possible to see your imperfect self in their imperfect self. If you can do that, you will feel compassion for them.

That's my take on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 06:32 PM

Hi Dewy...why don't you post this question on this site

They may be able to give you answers from a Pagan, Witchcraft point of view too.....

Best of luck
Khatt

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 06:26 PM

Amos, I didn't write the book. I'm just giving a possible interpretation of it.

I am not claiming that interpretation is right.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Amos
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 06:10 PM

Geeze Louise, Jon!!

How come doing something with your own positive influence has to be satanic? What if God gave you that power, and wouldn't you look silly worrying about it then?


A

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: John O'L
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 06:09 PM

Dewey -
It seems to me that the groups who are most interested in control and domination for elitist reasons are very good at positioning themselves where they can most easily mislead those who are seeking genuine information.

I think you just have use your common sense to sort out the malevolent from the benevolent. As you have noticed, the're pretty easy to spot.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 06:05 PM

There is Positive Thinking and Positive Thinking...

From a Christian angle, the idea that you are controlling anything by your positive thinking most likely would be considered satanic. On the other hand a positive thought such as "God loves me" or desiring good things for others would not be - in fact quite the opposite. The difference is in the attribution of where the power comes from.

Just one of many views. I don't think anyone can give a definate right or wrong - unless there is a God and we know him personally. I'm stuck with belief on that...

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Amos
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 05:31 PM

Put your faith in God, then Dewey, and use the gifts you have received. There's nothing satanic about it.

What can be satanic is mass agreement without understanding but that doesn't sound like what you're interested in.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 05:02 PM

Sounds like you're in good shape then, Dewey.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Dewey
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:57 PM

Thanks Carol,

I never once had a bad experience, nightmare, entity presence or anything else. I have a faith in God and do not mess around with entities siances etc.

I already feel "protected as my purposes are not vain or selfish" nor am I seeking something from anyone or anything else that I do not already possess myself.

Thanks again!

Dewey

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:56 PM

The question requires rewrite. It's much like asking if nuclear power is good or bad. It is neither. The application determines whether it is positive or negative.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Dewey
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:53 PM

Hi Teresa!

I feel I have an open mind on religion. I just wish to know why all the people who believe in collective consciousness also believe in re-incarnation, satanic symbols, world peace, elitism etc.

I don't think you will find a single example on the internet in reguards to collective consciouness where masonic symbols are not used, and if you research it furhter, you will find everyone of these symobls are used in conjunction with higher-consciousness specifically.

These symbols always have a ritual nature and it is not always been positive, it fact it has been down right scary!

Dewey

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:46 PM

Hi Dewey. I think there are a lot of people in the world who want to control other people and to control their thought processes. I think those sites you have been encountering are quite likely owned and operated by those kinds of people. You can probably substitute the word "faith" for the phrase "positive thinking" and get different results on the internet, even though the two concepts aren't all that different. With a lot of the various spiritual communities, and spiritual cultures, there seem to be certain catch-phrases and ways of saying things that tend to be used a lot. So you'll sometimes find that the specific wording you use will tend to lead you to certain kinds of sites.

Maybe when you ask your questions (from the universal mind, higher consciousness, or whatever), you'll want to put some kind of protection around yourself and specify that you want whatever information or help you get to be for the highest good of all concerned. You probably can't go to far wrong with that.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Teresa
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:38 PM

Oh goodness.

Ok, Christians, you may or may not want to switch to another thread here. Here come my thoughts.

I don't think positive thinking is satanic. I think satanists and satan worship is simply another aspect of Christian cultural background. Many satanists were once fundamentalist Christian, and worshiping Satan is a sort of rebellion on their part, IMO. It's a kind of reactionary religion.

Those who are Pagans (Wicca, etc) do not worship Satan as a rule, but date their belief system as pre-Judeo/Christian, and therefore pre-Satan. So Satan is moot among Pagans.

I think you just have to trust your hunches and go with what feels right. Analyzing it too much can be an obstacle to learning when it comes to faith, IMO.

Teresa

Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: GUEST,?ÀÃ
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:28 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Dewey
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:16 PM

By the way Norman Vincent Peale (father of positive thinking) was an elitist 33rd degree Mason.

Makes you REALLY wonder!

Dewey

Subject: BS: Is Positive Thinking Satanic?
From: Dewey
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:12 PM

Hi Guys! Its Dewey Again. I've been researching the Collective Conscious Universal Mind on the Internet. No matter what I choose to put into the search engines I always get back the same infomation on this subject, namely, the New World Order, Sorcery, Divination, Paganism, Human Sacrifices, Witchcraft, Various Secret societies, Alchemy, Shamanism etc.

PLus, every sight I go to relating to this topic either uses a Satanic or NWO symbol to express itself.

I don't desire to be re-incarnated into a great ball of nothingness, if you get my drift , merely because my mind is in tune with an intelligence that appears to give me everything I could ever want.

Does one's positive thinking and higher instincts alway have lead back to the seeds of Lucifer and World Domination of the Occult.



Does Positive thinking always have to end up drawing on deceptive world peace, supposedly the tools of Satan.

While I do not want my Relgious ignorance to get in the way of understanding this higher form of intelligence, it direction always seems to lead into dark powers, elitism etc. and ALWAYS SATANIC SYMBOLS, whether the Freemasons, Blavatsky etc.

Help!

I've never been at bigger crossroad in my life, having now posessed the powers of my mind and the universe, but not knowing whether doing so is going to be in my long-term best interest.

Dewey (the cautious one)