Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)

Subject: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 11:23 AM

I can't tell if this is the same song mentioned by this title in other threads, but a clip of what I heard is HERE.

I'm also interested in any other songs on that CD that are not in my Patterson book, "Shaker Spirituals."

Thanks,

~Susan

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 11:56 AM

If you mean the Lay me Low recorded by the Albion Band back in the 1970s (and mentioned briefly in some past threads), then it's the same song as the clip; though that's too short and indistinct to tell if the words differ. The 1978 label just says "arr. Tams"; no indication as to where he got it.

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 12:06 PM

Malcolm, I don't know if that is the same song. In any event, you don't have the Albion item?

~Susan

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: masato sakurai
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 12:44 PM

Possibly the same as the version in Andrews' The Gift To Be Simple (p. 119):

X:1
T:Lay Me Low
M:3/4
L:1/4
K:C
e2 (d/c/)|\
w:Lay me_
M:2/4
L:1/4
d2|\
w:low,
M:3/4
L:1/4
e2 (d/c/)|\
w:Lay me_
M:2/4
L:1/4
(c/A3/2)|\
w:low_,
M:3/4
L:1/4
{A}c2 (A/G/)|
w:Lay me_
M:4/4
L:1/4
({G}A3/2c/) c2|\
w:low_ low
M:2/4
L:1/4
e2|\
w:Where
M:3/4
L:1/4
e d c |\
w:Moth-er can
M:4/4
L:1/4
d2 d2|\
w:find me,
M:2/4
L:1/4
e2|\
w:Where
M:3/4
L:1/4
e d c|
w:Moth-er can
M:4/4
L:1/4
(c3/2A/) A2|\
w:own_ me,
M:2/4
L:1/4
({A}c3/2A/)|\
w:Where_
M:3/4
L:1/4
A G G|\
w:Moth-er can
M:4/4
L:1/4
({G}A3/2c/) c2|]
w:bless_ me.

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 01:28 PM

Once again, my friend Masato, you bring my heart's desire. That is indeed it, and in the version I heard, I note they have done what I do-- adjusted the lyric for a theological shift: Where MY LORD can...."

Thank you my friend!

~Susan

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 01:50 PM

Masato, on the CD, the song appears to be attributed Addah Z. Potter. Does Andrews give any details as to time, place, and "author" (recipient) of song?

Thanks especially for the ABC. I'm having fun trying to re-time it as a MIDI more in line with the recorded interpretation, for congregational singing.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 02:34 PM

The tune Masato quotes is essentially the same as the online clip which, as I indicated, is the same as used for the Albion arrangement. John Tams may have modified the words a little (my copy is vinyl and the record deck is buried under books at the moment); I think that "Where Mother can find me" became "Where no one can find me," but it's some years since I've listened to it.

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 05:01 PM

Thanks, Malcolm. I didn't realize earlier that you meant that the tune seemed the same. Interesting lyric use of it!

~S~

Subject: ADD: Lay Me Low (Tams)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 05:17 PM

Tams rendering:

LAY ME LOW
(arr. Tams)

Lay me low, lay me low, lay me low,
Where no-one can see me
Where no one can find me
Where no one can hurt me.

Show me the way, help me to say
All that I need to
All that I needed you gave me
All that I wanted you made me
When I stumbled you saved me.

Lay me low---

Throw me a line, help me to find
Something to cling to
When the loneliness haunts me,
When the bitterness taunts me
When the emptyness eats me.

Lay me low---

http://www.coopeboyesandsimpson.co.uk/lay_me_low.htm

Wysiwyg, could you please post the lyrics from the cd if you have the time?
It will be interesting to see and compare the Shaker song.

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 06:30 PM

Q, I don't have the CD yet but I will post them when it arrives.

~S~

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: masato sakurai
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:56 AM

Susan, here's Andrews' comment:

    39. LAY ME LOW

A "gift song" received by Addah Z. Potter of the New Lebanon Church order on April 15, 1838. One of many songs of humility and "mortification" written during the manifestations, this piece has a curious American Indian quality, slow, soft and plaintive. The tune is modal.

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: masato sakurai
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 04:16 AM

"Lay Me Low" (Kevin Siegfried) sung by the Stonewall Chorale.

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 08:00 AM

Thanks, Masato! And that recording is longer and clearer than the Amazon clip.

~S~

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 08:00 AM

PS, I ordered the Andrews book.

~S~

Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: NigelParry
Date: 19 May 14 - 07:40 PM

Here you go, Youtube;

http://youtu.be/X2Gx27jRbYo