BS: Rapaire = Rapaire

Subject: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:07 AM

At least I think so....

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:08 AM

So? So? Someone had to = Rapaire, it might as well have been you.

That's what you're paid for, after all.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:09 AM

I get paid as well?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Azizi
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:11 AM

So do other people get paid to be themselves? How come nobody's paying me any money to be me? It's just not fair..boo hoo!!

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:11 AM

Minimum wage. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = eriapaR
From: Peace
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:18 AM

Get it right!

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: artbrooks
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:51 AM

And so who else would admit to such a thing?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:28 PM

Still in denial I see, Rap...

Awww' jus messin' wid...

Yeah, you = you...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: John Hardly
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:33 PM

Hey girl, I betcha
There's someone out to get you
You'll find him anywhere
On a bus, in a bar, in a grocery store
He'll say "Excuse me, haven't I seen you somewhere before?"

Chorus:
Rap-a-rap-a-rap, they call him The Rapaire
Rap, rap, rap, know what he's aftaire

So he starts his rappin'
Hopin' something will happen
He'll say he needs you
A companion, a girl he can talk to
He's made up his mind
He needs someone to sock it to

Chorus

He's made an impression
So he makes a suggestion
"Come up to my place
For some coffee, or tea, or me . . ."
He's got you where he wants you
Girl you gotta face reality

Chorus

Rap, rap, rap, they call him The Rapaire

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:40 PM

only on the Mudcat does a tautology get serious debate.....and why not!

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: GUEST, Bat Goddess
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:44 PM

Be yourself -- everybody else is taken.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:54 PM

Linn, that's the best bumpersticker phrase I've seen all year!!!

Alternate version: ...no-one else wants the job!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:05 PM

Tautology is the only true religeon.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Azizi
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:21 PM

John Hardly:

Since after all this is a music forum, may I make the following comments regarding your song:

First off, IMHO, the song's first two lines would have more street credibility if it went like this:

"Hey girl, I betcha
There's someone out to get yah"

And John Hardly, the word 'rappin' has been so co-opted by hip hoppers so much that when people hear it they unlikely to think about a man droppin some lines in an effort to try to get next to a woman..

And "sock it to you" been retired from hip talk so long ago that several generations have grown up not knowing it...

You're dating yourself with those phrases, man.
[though I get that you were trying to build off the name Rapaire...]

Besides from that, your song's got definite potential.

So you got a record label interested?

Go for it! Remember what they say-"No guts/no glory.."


Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: John Hardly
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:48 PM

Azizi,

You're pullin' my leg, right?

The Rapper was recorded in 1970 by The Jaggerz.   I failed to give attribution because, well, 'cause I thought the song (having been a billboard number one) was so well known that everyone would immediately see what it was that I was parodying.

:^) LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Azizi
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:57 PM

My bad, John Hardly.

First off I have never HEARD of the group The Jaggerz.
or this paticular song.

So I guess that 'everyone' doesn't know this song..

Also, I stand by my words [confirmed by the date of the song] that the phrases are dated..

And, BTW John.. my intentions were well meaning, or didn't you get that?

But it's no deal..I'm willing to eat the yucky raw egg on my face for this one.

I've made worse mistakes than this, and -besides- I'm among friends, right?

Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: John Hardly
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 03:35 PM

Of course I knew you meant no harm -- and I only had a laugh at my own assumption that everyone on an international forum full of the too-old or the too-young, dedicated to folk music, would know a pop hit from the '70's. LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Raedwulf
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 03:36 PM

Rap,

How do you manage to equal yourself? That'd imply some sort of sanity or consistency. Failed on both counts, guv... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 03:59 PM

Had my DNA checked. Had my fingerprints checked. Even checked with the pecker checker. So, within the bounds of mathematical certainty -- that is to say, as sure as we can be within the bounds of statistical certainty, the probability me equaling me approaches (but of course does not achieve) certainty. This makes me nervous because of the small-but-computable chance that I am not me and then I would be someone else, but since I am me who would I be if I were someone else? Amos? Brucie? Azizi? George W. Bush? I hope that I wouldn't be someone like Attila the Hun or Ronald Reagan, 'cause they're dead. Of course, there is a small-but-computable chance that I'm dead as well, and being someone else AND dead would simply ruin my day.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:09 PM

Tautology is the only true religion.
(gnu)

Wow!! Gnu, you are the MAN!!!

All my life I have sought to know what my actual religion should be!! I even founded the Temple of the Golden Globes because it seemed to be so divinely truthful to me.

But I think now it is obvious that I am a TAUTOLOGIST!!!

Look -- read this brochure and ask yourself this question: Am I happy equaling myself?


A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:14 PM

Does this mean that I have to pester people at airports?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:18 PM

As a senior tautologist (so far there are three including gnu) you can recruit and train instead of disseminating at airports. Just make sure you train your recruits not to disseminate in the facilities.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:18 PM

One can be both a Tautologist and a Titologist. Surely these paths are as equal as devine.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:51 PM

I don't know about insemenatin' at airports any more. Back in my younger days we'd park the van out behind the airport and insemenate all we wanted. Nowadays the airport cops'll come bust ya an' accuse ya of bein' a terrorist. Airports is one of the few places in the world where fuckin' is considered a terrorist activity.

Folks who are into public insemenatin' should stick with libraries and department stores.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:15 PM

You may be a Tautologist, but I am a Tautologian-----

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:21 PM

Oooooo. Elaborate, for the sake of the unwashed.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:47 PM

A tautologian studies the knowledge of a "tautologue", or doodoohead. A Tautologist believes in both sides of the equation equally.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Peace
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:51 PM

But then who will there be left to believe in the 'equals' sign?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:54 PM

My fault, I guess. I should have called this thread "= = =".

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 06:02 PM

The Tautologist embodies the equals sign and must believe in himself, or he would be unable to be a believer at all, certainly; there is no tautology more deeply held than that of what you really believe you are, after all.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 06:21 PM

I believe that I'm obscenely rich, damned good lookin', a virtuoso on any instrument I pick up, fantasically well educated, a master of rhetoric and conversation, and wonderfully physically fit.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: artbrooks
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 07:15 PM

...and here I thought a tautologist was someone who enjoyed looking at taut jeans...

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 09:12 PM

Ha! I see the light!

All this time I have been going round quoting this saying "Nothing changes until it becomes what it is", without realising I was saying a tautological truth. Suddenly it all makes sense! Hallelujah brothers and sisters!

Tautology, the TRUE path!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: mack/misophist
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 09:40 PM

Hobgoblins are the consistancy of small minds.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:30 PM

"I yam what I yam."

    Popeye- tautologist extrodinare

I do beg to differ (no, I don't..I just differ)

A Tautologian explores the theoretical basis of **IDENTITY**, and offers analysis of whether Popeye IS, indeed, what he is. Some folks are merely mirrors of their potentiality, and not at all what they really are in the inherent manifestation of their embodied Dasein.

as Lauri Harvilahti so eloquently expresses it....

"Tässä artikkelissa ei tautologian välttämiseksi vertailla seuraavia jaksoja, joissa Hannus/ Ignatta (4) menee saunalle ja käskee vaimonsa kylpeä viimeisen kerran ja pukeutua parhaimpiinsa, minkä jälkeen (5) vaimo kylpee, tietää surman tulevan ja pyytää apua kyläläisiltä."

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:08 PM

I love it when Bill talks dirty, don't you??


A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 06:59 AM

Amos... "A Tautologist believes in both sides of the equation equally."

One must, even when both sides are false. Otherwise, one cannot table the truth.

Amos again... "there is no tautology more deeply held than that of what you really believe you are, after all."

Well then, I'm screwed.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 08:48 AM

"Tässä artikkelissa ei tautologian välttämiseksi vertailla seuraavia jaksoja, joissa Hannus/ Ignatta (4) menee saunalle ja käskee vaimonsa kylpeä viimeisen kerran ja pukeutua parhaimpiinsa, minkä jälkeen (5) vaimo kylpee, tietää surman tulevan ja pyytää apua kyläläisiltä."

But don't forget that recently Cignoli et al. proved that, in particular, each t-tautology is provable in BL, where t-tautology means a tautology with respect to all continuous triangular norms (t-norms, for short), being the connective conjunction interpreted by a continuous t-norm and the connective implication interpreted by the corresponding residuum!

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 08:57 AM

Sooo, a tautology is provable. Whether one stutters or not. What if you lithp?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 09:11 AM

PUBLIC HEALTH ANNOUNCEMENT:

It appears that one or more of the extremely potent strains of BS normally associated with the Mother Of All BS Threads have escaped containment and are infecting other threads on the forum. This thread, in particular, is exhibiting definite symptoms of a MOABous infection. It is strongly suggested that no further posts be made to this thread until a complete BSopsy can be performed.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 09:15 AM

Hey, BEE-dubya-ELL, it's BL-algebra! I thought you'd gone and invented it.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 09:18 AM

I did. But I don't remember doing it. And I don't understand it.

But that's perfectly normal in a thread with a severe MOABous infection.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 09:23 AM

Am I...am I...could I be...a carrier???

Will I have to spend my life like Mary Mallon, locked away in a cell on a government-owned island? If so, can I choose the island and who I want to be locked away with?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 09:47 AM

Gnu:

Nah, man, it's okay, really. The tautology of believing you are what you think you are is necessary for life to function, because if you really found out the Cosmic Truth about any identity whatsoever, you would probably melt or somp'n. Ya know what I mean?


A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 10:23 AM

Melt? So, I'm really Frosty the Snowman?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: GUEST,gnu
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 10:31 AM

Sorry. Forgot to sign that.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 10:48 AM

I believe "melt", in the sense in which Amos used it, is more of a metaphor than a statement of pure fact. The experience is probably more like a close encounter with a Boojum. It's like melting, but different, though observers of the phenomenon have reported that a corncob pipe does figure into it in some obscure fashion.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 04:19 PM

I suppose it depends on yer choice a 'baccy.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Pogo
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 04:58 PM

*runs by in the background with painted face faintly screaming FREEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMM!!!! in an atrocious Scottish accent*

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 05:04 PM

Melt, decompose, vaprize, shatter, sublimate, effervesce, explode, transubstantiate into non-corporeal essence...whatEVer...



A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 03:07 PM

Well Rapaire, who do you want to be locked away with?

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 08:37 PM

Why, my wife, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: gnu
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 09:01 AM

Conclusive evidence... Rapaire = Rapaire.

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 04:39 PM

At least it seems like evidence.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: bobad
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 04:45 PM

Amos


Effervesce?

Evanesce

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 04:47 PM

Either one, man. The afore-mentioned discovery of true selfhood would induce some kind of dramatic transformation of any temporary identity being used, doncha think?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Rapaire = Rapaire
From: bobad
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 04:57 PM

Only if that identity was tnat of a bubble brain.

B