BS: Poker

Subject: BS: Poker
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 03:08 PM

I find myself spending an inordinate amount of time on Poker.com. Fortunately my credit card company does not accept charges from on-line gambling sites but they do provide $2000/day of play money and hundreds of play money tables.

Anyone else spend time here? My best day? I turned $1000 into $50,000 in a matter of minutes with four 5s. Then lost it all. "You have to know when to fold 'em" and I don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 04:36 PM

oh, my good heavens, no! I have my local time-wasting games if need my mind diverted.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: gnu
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 05:37 PM

Nope. Never have. Never will. Seems to me though, that the "play money" tables might be programmed differently that the real money tables just to suck people in.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 08:16 PM

No gnu. I have played on both. Tables of 2-10 people playing an assortment of games. I prefer Texas Hold 'Em. There are no limit tables and pot limit tables with bets varying from $5 to $500. You join a table, choose a "persona", and play. I have a few friends who play regularly with me. And there are the usual foul mouthed idiots who get nasty when they lose. The solution - a button to vote them off the table. 3 votes and you are booted. Had one silly woman complaining that she lost to a guy who hadn't placed his bets in a way that would warn her that he had a full house. I asked her if he cheated and got reamed out. A little like the 'Cat.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Alba
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 08:25 PM

Where I come from Sins a Poker is something that hangs by the side of a Fireplace to "poke" the fire with...:>)
I can't even play bloody chicken foot or Snap...so I think I may be on the losing end of a Poker Game.....lol
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: open mike
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 08:29 PM

is there a 12 step plan?

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: s6k
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 03:17 AM

texas hold em is the best.

never played it online though, id probably be bankrupt within a week. ill stick to counterstrike or playing poker for pennies

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 07:45 AM

I've played online a couple of times, but I'd much rather play in real life. We play no limit Texas Hold 'Em once or twice a week, usually for a 2 quid buy-in. I played in my first tournament a couple of months ago and was the only girl out of 64 players. I didn't win, but I wasn't first out either! My hands shook so much I could hardly shuffle though.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 08:57 AM

Piddly-tush! You can't play real poker without seeing your opponents. Reading the body language is an important part of the game.

Only if you're really into poker (or any other card game except solitaire [a/k/a Patience]) it's more of a religion -- or a job. Gamblers -- the real ones, not the addicts -- view it AS a job, one that they work at all the time. And they do it with a cold, cut-throat, point of view born of vast experience. And no, they don't care if they take your last dime any more than a real assassin cares about taking your life.

I've played poker with some very fine players, but never online. And I don't play at all any more. It's too dangerous.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 01:04 PM

I agree about reading your opponents, Rapaire. But...in most cases you can on-line. I watch to see who bets quickly then suddenly slows down or who bets before the flop consistently. People have "tells' even on the internet.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 01:22 PM

Can't poke'er right now, she's at work...

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: GUEST,Chip2447
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 12:11 AM

I play quite regularly on other sites. My game of choice, no limit texas hold em of course. Best night was turning 20k into 485k in a matter of 20 minutes or so. I wish I could find "real" players that incompentent, and that rich.

I tend to steer towards the tournements, you typically find a better quality of player in the tourneys, IMO....That and the fact that if you choose the right tournys and win them you can actually qualify to enter cash tournys or satellites to "real" games. PokerStars.com regularly has tournaments for up to 6000 people. That'll go a long way in teaching you patience. I did finish 58th out of nearly 4000 one night.

Occasionally, we get together for a live game, which features one table for limit dealers choice, and another for no limit holdem sit and go tournaments. I dont do too badly at those as well.

Chip2447

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Peace
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 01:01 AM

Learn the odds and don't bet against them.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Les B
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 11:51 PM

I've always liked the sign on one of our quaint downtown bars with a card room in back - "liquor in the front - poker in the rear"!

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 09:25 AM

And never bet on trying to fill an inside straight.

The odds are computable and if you REALLY want to play, you better know them like you know the way to your toilet. If you don't, sure enough someone will come along who does and teach you why you should.

Poker should be serious or not played at all.

Jose was a visiting student at our college; he lived on a large rancho in Mexico. One day, some of his friends on the rancho sent him up a couple liters of homemade tequila.

There was nothing for it than for Jim, Steve, and my brother Ted to taste that booze. So they brought Jose up to the camp for some drinking and poker playing.

Ted was in Drama, and the other two weren't adverse to theatrics. Jose knew this, but didn't realize it, if you follow me.

So they sat down at the old, chewed up table at the camp, poured some the tequila into various glasses, and pulled out the cards. Jose won the cut and prepared to deal.

"GODdamn! I want an HONEST game now!" exclaimed Jim, hauling out an (unloaded) .455 Colt's revolver and putting it on the table.

"Me too, you rotten bastards!" snarled Steve, jamming the point of a HUGE Bowie knife into the table.

"Damned right, I say!" said Ted, propping a double-barreled 12 gauge shotgun against his leg.

Jose turned white as the others continued to pull out chains, straight razors, knives, revolvers, a tomahawk, a double-bit axe, and such. When Ted pulled out a hand-and-a-half sword it dawned on Jose that he was being taken in and he started to laugh.

That did it; the three couldn't keep straight faces any longer.

They put the paraphenalia away, played some penny poker, and returned the next morning with world-class hangovers.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Chip2447
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 06:17 AM

as an update...last night while playing a online freebie game, I sat down at a High stakes table with 50,000 in chips. 40 minutes later, I walked away with 1,381,716. Why, oh why cant I find players like that in real life, they dont even have to bring that much money to the table. Four or five of those a night, four or five nights a week. They could even give up and be replaced by a like minded individual when they got tired of paying me.

Chip2447(who has finally found something he is sorta good at)

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 07:44 AM

I hope that is phoney money, Sins, 'cuase if yer droppin $2000 a day that yer credit card company provides you for the purpose of gambling, then I'm coming down there with my butterfly net and gonna check you in at Betty Ford Clinic... Sho nuff am...

(Maybe I need to reread the original post...)

BTW, the other day when brucie had them 4 Aces and I had 3 sevens, a nine and a Jack, did I win? I never heard back from no one... Maybe I oughtta check my own credit card statement...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Tinker
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 08:09 AM

Oh dear SINS, Ben converted the table in the turret to a poker table...yes, just as you walk in the door... You'll have to be ready in the fall for some serious play time.

tink

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 09:27 AM

Where did my post go????

Ben will be happy. I lose often and gracefully. Yes, it is Play Money and that explains why CHIP wins. It is easy to "gamble' with Play Money. I have played at the Real Money tables too (with $10) but it took days for me to lose it all.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:03 PM

As has been said before, it helps to know the odds.

Playing one-on-one, you are each dealt two cards, face down. The odds against your opponent having Two Aces are 220:1
You look at your cards, Two Kings!

What are the odds against your opponent holding Two Aces?



Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:26 PM

220:1

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Chip2447
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 12:43 AM

Yeah, the fact that its play money does play a part in winning. If you add to the mix umpteen hundreds of people who are either incompetent, ignorant, or who just dont give a rats ass (because it is play money)then it becomes easy for a semi skilled player such as myself to take their chips.

As your "bankroll" increases and you start playing in higher stakes games, the quality of players tend to increase as well. There are some very good players that enjoy playing freegames online. Most of them are quite eager to beat a "smart assed kid" into submission and send him packing back down to the minor leagues (the cheap seats).

Obviously, I don't win that kinda money in real games, but since our local home game has incorporated a No Limit Texas Holdem table into our regular routine I've done alright having brought home much more than I took in.

Keep your eyes on this spot. When I win my way into one of the big tourneys I'll post it right here. Should everything come together and I make the final table you'll be able to hear me shout from Aruba. LOL...

"On a warm summer's evenin' on a train bound for nowhere,
I met up with the gambler; we were both too tired to sleep...."

Chip2447

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 02:46 PM

Rapaire:

Nice try!

Would you like to reconsider the answer before I say whether it's right or wrong?

Or does anyone have a different answer?

To quote William Claude Dukenfield "Never give a sucker an even break"

CHEERS

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 06:10 PM

The odds of them having two Aces significantly increased by the fact that you have two cards which are not aces. I'm too lazy to do the math so I'll say 200 to 1.

Subject: RE: BS: Poker
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:04 PM

Close enough JtS,

The odds, with no cards seen, of drawing two Aces are 52/4 * 51/3;
i.e. one in 221
Once you see your two Kings, the remaining pack has only 50 cards, so the chance of your opponent getting two Aces is 50/4 * 49/3;
i.e. roughly one in 204

Cheers

Nigel