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Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song

Leadfingers 25 May 05 - 09:59 AM
Leadfingers 25 May 05 - 10:00 AM
Paco Rabanne 25 May 05 - 10:01 AM
Richard Bridge 25 May 05 - 05:36 PM
GUEST,Jcd 25 May 05 - 07:25 PM
GUEST,Vote BNP 26 May 05 - 04:23 AM
Peace 26 May 05 - 09:38 AM
GUEST 26 May 05 - 11:39 AM
GUEST 26 May 05 - 11:41 AM
GUEST 26 May 05 - 11:42 AM
Peace 26 May 05 - 01:22 PM
GUEST,cissco & sonny & ledbelly to. 27 May 05 - 10:45 AM
GUEST,John Medlin 27 May 05 - 11:07 AM
Paco Rabanne 27 May 05 - 11:27 AM
Peace 27 May 05 - 11:33 AM
Peace 27 May 05 - 11:44 AM
Peace 27 May 05 - 11:55 AM
GUEST,Allen 28 May 05 - 02:15 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 31 May 05 - 08:28 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 31 May 05 - 08:36 PM
Peace 31 May 05 - 08:39 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 31 May 05 - 08:40 PM
GUEST 31 May 05 - 08:46 PM
GUEST 01 Jun 05 - 05:42 PM
Ebbie 01 Jun 05 - 07:26 PM
GUEST,reply to ebbie 02 Jun 05 - 04:35 AM
GUEST,Allen 02 Jun 05 - 06:03 AM
GUEST 02 Jun 05 - 11:18 AM
GUEST,bnp facts 02 Jun 05 - 03:00 PM
Peace 02 Jun 05 - 06:48 PM
Chris Green 02 Jun 05 - 09:21 PM
GUEST,Ophelia 03 Jun 05 - 03:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Leadfingers
Date: 25 May 05 - 09:59 AM

AND 200 th Post Too !!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Leadfingers
Date: 25 May 05 - 10:00 AM

Damn You Ted !! Foiled Again !!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 25 May 05 - 10:01 AM

Flamenco - 4 Banjos - 0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 May 05 - 05:36 PM

JcD, thank you for the sources, my misty recollections were obviously at fault

So, David,if you "will never tolerate racist lyrics" can we assume thatif and when you perform the subject song, it will be without the racist reference to "Pakis and Afghans"?

The other thing, David, is that neither you nor anyone else has commented on my view that the music of the song is very reminiscent of Donovan's "Gipsy Boy and I", which to my mind devalues the prospect of widespread liking for this piece - particularly in its main target audience.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,Jcd
Date: 25 May 05 - 07:25 PM

No problem Richard.

Now I'll admit that the one thing that did make me smile throughout this discussion, was being called an 'intelligent man', on more than one occasion.

I may have balls, but I'm afraid I'm all woman!!

G'night chaps.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,Vote BNP
Date: 26 May 05 - 04:23 AM

richard, it says:"Iraqis and Afghans" not the derogatory term "pakis" which would no way be included. There's nowt racist about stating where someone is from/their nationality!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 26 May 05 - 09:38 AM

Dear Jcd.

Good on yer.

GUEST, Vote BNP: Fuck of.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST
Date: 26 May 05 - 11:39 AM

i'll let you be in my dream if i can scream in yours


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST
Date: 26 May 05 - 11:41 AM

is that an order mine fooyer


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST
Date: 26 May 05 - 11:42 AM

send me some doe and i'll tell ya
wouldnt like to smell ya


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 26 May 05 - 01:22 PM

"GUEST, Vote BNP: Fuck of."

HA HA. Maybe he did and took the other f with him. LOL.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,cissco & sonny & ledbelly to.
Date: 27 May 05 - 10:45 AM

so your wife left you did she brucie that say's it all.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,John Medlin
Date: 27 May 05 - 11:07 AM

I heard David at a BNP meeting openly denouncing and condemning the old racist music that once had its way in nationalist circles. I was a first time attendee, and i was suspicious of BNP at the time, but i met David and i found him very genuine. I dont agree with everything the BNP says, like withdrawal from EU.

I liked the song corporal fox.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 27 May 05 - 11:27 AM

As I know Davids dad very well, I don't doubt for a minute that he is sincere in his beliefs.It will be interesting to see how the BNP fare at the next election, if they continue their current policy of toning down the rhetoric and expelling some of their more extreme members.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 27 May 05 - 11:33 AM

"so your wife left you did she brucie that say's it all."

And fuck you, too.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 27 May 05 - 11:44 AM

But then it shouldn't be "you, too" because you have posted to this thread under your real name. Wake up bucko. The stupid misspellings of Cisco and Leadbelly don't hide who you are. So, I will retract the 'too' and simply say that you are a coward. But that would fit with the party philosophy, wouldn't it?

Piss off.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 27 May 05 - 11:55 AM

Also, before I split for the day. Now, knowing who you are will make things easier when we meet. My wife and I decided to call it a day after 27 years. As with all things, it takes two to tango or tangle--as you will find out when we meet.

See you down the line.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 28 May 05 - 02:15 PM

British is not a specific race. It broadly includes English, Scots, Welsh, Manxmen, Cornish, and anyone else a citizen. All it means is an inhabitant of Britain.

That Kipling poem is a remarkable work about the distrust and prejudice that we tend to feel about anything alien. It's natural, but doesn't mean bigotry, hatred and fear are to be encouraged.
Kipling was a patriot, but not a blind one. Have a look at Recessional for an example.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:28 PM

David-I run Hull Folk Club, if you'd like to play there contact me on
07759 668798, phone or text, i'll get straight back to you.
Like Flamenco Ted, I also know your father well.

It's a music club, we don't discuss politics there, if your willing to play for nowt, [we don't charge admission, and don't pay anyone no matter how good they are], your'e as welcome as anyone else.


John Evans [Hull Folk Club].


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:36 PM

Before anyone accuses me of been a Nazi or BNP supporter etc, by issuing an open invite to David to attend Hull Folk Club I would like to make the point that we have had probably over 100 performers there in total, if they have a genuine interest in folk/trad music, I don't know their politics and don't care, it's a music club


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:39 PM

"Subject: RE: BS: British Nazi Party ((BNP))
From: Rt Hon Sir jOhn from Hull - PM
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:02 PM

brucie- [this is meant in the nicest way possible]=
if you don't like a certain group, just ignore them, starting threads just gives them publicity."


Now you know why I don't ignore them, jOhn. Because they keep getting 'brought up' anyway.

Bruce


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:40 PM

oh!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:46 PM

If you want to give a platform to the lyrics posted above, you are supporting them by giving them exposure.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 05:42 PM


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 07:26 PM

This has been a most interesting thread. This world is muddled and befuddled in more ways than one. I tend to forget about Nazism today and its current efforts. I would have liked to believe that it is a thing of the past, and of course that is not true.

Just now I looked up the American Nazi Party- hoping I'd find that it has evaporated since its founder died, but not so. And now I have a further concern. It appears to me that the Nazi party in America and the BNP are not only in like spirit but are conceivably using the same tactics.

It seems that the British "Nationalist" Party is downplaying its reason for being, obviously hoping and planning to slide in under people's nazi-detecting radar screens, as flamenco ted implies: "It will be interesting to see how the BNP fare at the next election, if they continue their current policy of toning down the rhetoric and expelling some of their more extreme members."

The ANP says this: "...we recognize the fact that behaving in the manner of past activities, little progress has been achieved for our Cause. That is why we have taken a new direction. In the American Nazi Party, you will find no uniforms or ranks, we do not engage in publicly exposing our Comrades to undo publicity through pointless and dangerous Rallies or Marches. We instead stress Small Cell, and Individual Activism as the path for which to build our Movement, as securely and in a responsible manner as possible.

"We are looking for Men and Women, who are willing to sacrifice for the Good of the Folk, not people who are looking for aggrandizement, titillation, or simply causing undirected and useless mayhem. This is not a game or a gang."

As if we didn't have enough worries.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,reply to ebbie
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:35 AM

Ebbie, you say how you are clearly worried about the return of nazism, and thought it was a thing of the past.

I agree, it is worrying, and nazism is a disgusting ideology which seems still to have a small support group on the fringe of decent society, but do not try to tie the BNP and Nazism in the same knot they are completely different. The BNP has its own circle for ex-servicemen who fought against nazism. SO did Nick Griffins father in fact.

It is easy for you to disregard every person who is patriotic enough to love their country enough to worry about their country. Poor veterans see the nation they fought for becoming more and more alien all the time. By calling members of the BNP nazi's you insult every veteran who holds bnp membership. That sir is WRONG


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:03 AM

Then maybe it's time the veterans took a hard look at who they call friends.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 11:18 AM

BNP facts.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,bnp facts
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:00 PM

hhahahaha, are you serious about that link to anl?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:48 PM

Good for you, GUEST. I posted the same link on another thread. It always bugs the Nazis when you shed light on them. The 'creatures' of the darkness just hate that. Good work. Keep it up.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Chris Green
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 09:21 PM

But perhaps not here? There's not been anything remotely musical posted to this thread for a good while. Can we not just let it die? Or if it must continue put it in BS. I made up my mind a while ago that contributing to this kind of discussion is shouting into a vacuum. Brucie et al - I agree with pretty much everything you say. Various "Guests" who support these deluded halfwits who masquerade as a credible political party, read some history. Not that it will change your minds, presumably, as that presupposes that you have minds.

Anyways, I'm offski.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: GUEST,Ophelia
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 03:12 AM

I agree duelling,

i am interested to listen to the music produced by the BNP, but until we hear some, then i cant see the point anymore. They have made their introduction now on this issue firmly on mudcat, and i gather elswhere too, especially as john evans has personally invited david hannam to sing at his folk club.

Unless there is music to be heard i dont see the point of this thread unless someone wants to go to bnp tv website section and listen to some of davids stuff there and let us know what you think.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Peace
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 03:11 PM

I'd sooner eat a plate of warm cow shit without salt.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: BNP broadcast folk song
From: Chris Green
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 07:18 PM

Dah! Said I wouldn't be back, but I feel the need to set the record straight given GUEST, ophelia's post. I have no interest in listening to music made by the BNP, or for that matter anything made by the BNP. Close the thread, please - it's only giving these troglodytes a platform to spout their half-baked cack and making them feel a lot more important than the empty vessels that they are. (Or should that be Horst Vessels?)


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