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BS: UK Election - Iraq Iraq Iraq

Stu 01 May 05 - 01:04 PM
Peace 01 May 05 - 01:41 PM
George Papavgeris 01 May 05 - 01:57 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 May 05 - 05:06 PM
Bunnahabhain 01 May 05 - 09:27 PM
GUEST,Jon Brownlee 02 May 05 - 12:49 AM

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Subject: BS: UK Election - Iraq Iraq Iraq
From: Stu
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:04 PM

It is interesting to see how this election campaign is playing out as we head for the final week, and how the Iraq war has dominated the agenda for discussion.

Will Blair's approach to the war change the way you vote, or are domestic issues more iportant?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK Election - Iraq Iraq Iraq
From: Peace
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:41 PM

I don't know if you have heard much about the Iraq war there, but we sure ain't heard much here.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK Election - Iraq Iraq Iraq
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:57 PM

In our household the Iraq war lost Blair 3 votes - to the LibDems (who were the only ones to oppose the war all along).


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Subject: RE: BS: UK Election - Iraq Iraq Iraq
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 May 05 - 05:06 PM

This is the first election I can remember where the main reason for not voting for both the main parties are the party leaders. Both of whom are 110% supporters of the war. Plus Howard has some other charming qualities.

"Mr Howard is Labour's cabbie, driving the disenchanted Labour voter home." (Mary Riddell, writing in today's Observer.) I think that sums things up pretty well.

I think the Lib-Dems are going to do a lot better than people are expecting. In any seat where the Lib-Dems are running second to the Tories, the party loyalty that has held Labour voters, in seats they know they aren't going to win, will, I suspect, have virtually melted away.
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There's a sort of reverse bandwagon effect, so far as both Labour and the Tories are concerned. They both need to look like losers, in order to persuade people who don't much like them to vote for them.

"Don't worry - we aren't going to win the election, so you can vote for us Tories and give Tony a message you don't like him."

"All right, you don't like me much - but if you don't vote Labour there's a real chance you'll get Howard, and you hate him even more than you hate me."


I paraphrase, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK Election - Iraq Iraq Iraq
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 01 May 05 - 09:27 PM

You forgot the lib dems.

" We really won't win, but we're not the other two, so you can tell both of them you don't like them.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK Election - Iraq Iraq Iraq
From: GUEST,Jon Brownlee
Date: 02 May 05 - 12:49 AM

I don't think Michael Howard has been doing much original thinking.
All this hate-the-immigrants and liar -liar stuff comes directly from Lynton Crosby and that pollster bloke Textor or whatever he's called.
Although I think you can call someone in Australia a lying scumbag and get away with it, it doesn't seem to be playing too well over here.
We in the Conservative party, in our quest for a new Margaret Thatcher, have been overlooking all our best politicians on the grounds that they do not hate the French and Germans enough. Why Chris Patten was never the leader is very frustrating to those of us in the not-nasty wing.
Unless something strange happens, Michael Howard will be asked to crawl away and we'll get another leadership contest. This Cameron bloke sounds OK to my mates and me but don't tell the right or he'll get screwed also.


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