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Recordings of WWI POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)

Keith A of Hertford 07 May 05 - 11:00 AM
mg 07 May 05 - 12:00 PM
Geoff the Duck 07 May 05 - 12:30 PM
sapper82 07 May 05 - 12:33 PM
Keith A of Hertford 09 May 05 - 08:58 AM
GUEST,Allen 12 May 05 - 07:20 AM
Bunnahabhain 12 May 05 - 10:27 AM
Alba 12 May 05 - 11:54 AM
GUEST,Allen 12 May 05 - 12:25 PM
Bunnahabhain 12 May 05 - 02:06 PM
Bunnahabhain 12 May 05 - 02:09 PM
Young Buchan 09 Mar 13 - 07:57 AM
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Subject: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 May 05 - 11:00 AM

BBC Radio 4 11AM Wed 11thMay
"'Barbed Wire Ballads"
Recordings made in German POW camps of Allied prisoners.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing
From: mg
Date: 07 May 05 - 12:00 PM

could you possibly record it for us..I would gladly pay any expenses for a copy..

There is a video of American POWs in Vietnam I think singing..one African American had an accordian.. mg


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 07 May 05 - 12:30 PM

Mary - if it is on BBC Radio 4, it will be broadcast online - I'll find a link......HERE IT IS....
That will get you to Radio 4's web pages. You can listen online live but you need to have RelPlayer to be able to do so. The programmes are also kept on archive for a week after broadcast, so can be picked up later, but then for some legal reason the archive is removed from public view.
If you want to record such webcasts on a Windoze PC, there is a programme called Total Recorder, which hijacks the signal before it reaches your computer sound card and can record Real Audio. You can find Total Recorder HERE . The "standard Edition" is relatively cheap, and does a good job.
Quack!
Geoff the Duck.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing
From: sapper82
Date: 07 May 05 - 12:33 PM

Mary, you'll probably find that it is available via the internet either as a "Listen Live" webcast or as "Listen Again" for the week after broadcast.
Try this to get the BBC webpage up:-
Barbed Wire Ballads


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 May 05 - 08:58 AM

Refresh.

The trailer has men singing Tipperary with harmonies.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 12 May 05 - 07:20 AM

Does anyone else feel a bit let down?
I think they blew a golden oppurtunity by having more chatter than content.
Here are these rare, invaluable archives and your host spends more time asking silly questions instead of letting one hear the sounds.
I do hope they become available soon, does anyone have info on that.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 12 May 05 - 10:27 AM

The archive is in Berlin, not BBC control, as mentioned on the programme. The BBC are refusing to provide any more info. I wonder why I pay my taxes for them sometimes......


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: Alba
Date: 12 May 05 - 11:54 AM

I just listened to the Programme and agree about the chatter. I could have done without so much of it.
It was, however, very touching at times.
"Long Way to Tipperary" is sung beautifully as is "Comrades Song of Hope"

POW Jack Egars(sp)from Hull relating the Story of his capture which was then taken over by his Grandson Jerry was fascinating.
I won't spoil the story but I had to giggle when Jack's Grandson tells what happened when Jack and another POW were taken from the Camp to record in Berlin for the Day!

I just wish there had been more Singing and speaking from the Prisoners themselves.
Fascinating and very Touching non the less.
Thank You for providing the Link Keith.
Blessings
Jude


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 12 May 05 - 12:25 PM

The archival bits were fantastic, no arguments there, if anything, I was left wanting MORE.
Would have been terrific if they played more of the exotic recordings mentioned, like Tatars, Gorkhas and North Africans, to name a few.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 12 May 05 - 02:06 PM

It can't hurt to email auntie, and suggest a short series (6x 30 mins?)
on the recordings. The worst they can do is ignore it.


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 12 May 05 - 02:09 PM

sorry, note to Americans, and other easily confused people.

Auntie is a british nickname for the BBC.

see also: The Beeb, the blatently biased Corperation, etc


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Subject: RE: Recordings of WW1 POWs singing (BBC4 11 May)
From: Young Buchan
Date: 09 Mar 13 - 07:57 AM

This is being rebroadcast today on Radio 4 Extra, and will be available on IPlayer for the next seven days.

As far as English language folk music content - well, one verse of Where the River Shannon Flows; but some anecdotes of interest to any of us who have ever tried to collect material from source singers. In particular since the POWs found out that the recording musicologists were giving their recordees extra grub and fags they were very keen to be chosen, and inclined to exaggerate what they could do - singing bits of opera and claiming it was folksong, or claiming their Russian songs were actually from Ukraine or Georgia.

Also listen to the wonderful recording of the man singing verses of the Quran and tell me if it doesn't sound awfully like an Irish singer performing in Gaelic a folk song which you just can't quite put your finger on.


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