BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 21 May 05 - 09:36 AM

As usual, Wolfgang is correct. Interesting that both the Left and Right can be myopic, on the same topic, in different ways.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 May 05 - 01:48 PM

Wolfgang,

You are partly right. But very wrong. If the people in Afghanistan didn't read it in Newsweek then it is their own media that is to blame. They were under no obligation to repeat the allegation. If Newsweek was wrong to run the story based on the word of one informant, how much more wrong were they to take Newsweek's word for it?

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: CarolC
Date: 21 May 05 - 02:00 PM

Maybe this sort of thing is the real reason Afghans are pissed off with the US...

Bush hails Afghan ties, but abuse stirs outrage

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

President Bush on Saturday emphasized close ties with Afghanistan two days before he was to meet with an angry President Hamid Karzai, who has demanded control of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan after a report of prisoner abuse.

Karzai, a staunch U.S. ally who will visit Bush at the White House on Monday, said he was shocked by a U.S. Army report described in The New York Times on Friday.

The report detailed abuse in 2002 at the Bagram detention center in Afghanistan, including the deaths of two inmates. It said one prisoner was chained by his wrists to the top of his cell for days and had his legs pummeled by guards before he died.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: dianavan
Date: 21 May 05 - 02:01 PM

The flushing of the Koran was not the reason for the riots. It may have been the 'straw that broke the camels back' but it didn't cause the riots. Its been building for a long time. At least the people of Iraq have the courage to stand up for what is right. More than I can say for Americans.

Wonder what would happen if I flushed a bible down the toilet on American t.v. Probably nothing. I think one of the talk show hosts should try it. Hey, maybe thats a way to get Bush to confess. We could tie him up and tear pages out of the bible one by one and flush them down the toilet. Would the Americans riot? I doubt it.

This is a disgusting war. I hope America is proud.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 05 - 02:46 PM

Well I seem to remember a media backlash against Sinead O Connor because she tore up a picture of the Pope on TV.
I agree with you Dianavan.
While the O connor's backlash didn't result in riots or people dying it did offend some People and their Religion.

If an Iraq Paper published photographs of American POW's in Prison and told how the Bible was thrown down the Toilet and published Photographs of them being stripped naked ect....you know thrown on top of one another blindfolded and led around on a leash, I won't go on, I am sure we are all aware of the details by now.
Bet ya there would be a backlash....some may even take to the Streets but I don't think the baclash would be about the Photographs or the abuse of the POW's, I think the issue that would be taken to the streets would be the Bible being flushed down a Toilet.

When People took to the Streets in this Country and around the World demanding Peace before this War even started...they were labeled Traitors or Hippies and stinky Liberal Commies.. and worse!

They can attempt to shift the the blame on whoever/whatever they wish.
The blame however lies with the Administration that invaded Iraq based on a Lie....they even got rewarded for lying by getting back in for another 4 years to keep the lies going.

Yeah Newsweek is to blame...yeah right...if it makes them feel better saying that....fine. Go right ahead. Let them tell themselves that each night. Let them tell themselves that all the People that are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan daily wouldn't be if Newsweek had just been a tad more responsible.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 05 - 03:01 PM

Any us'ers planning on travelling outside their country in the near future, could be advised to get a t shirt printed up stating how you voted in your last election.

You aren't flavour of the month, and that's a shame for some of you.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: DougR
Date: 21 May 05 - 07:42 PM

Anyone here tried flushing the Quoran down a toilet? It's a fair sized book, and most toilet openings are pretty restricted.

I think the casualties reported were civilian, not military. At least that is what I have read and heard. I think it likely that the rioting was caused by Taliban supporters who incited the crowds after the Newsweek article appeared in print. Riots likely would have occurred had their been reports of the Quoran being spat upon, or thrown in the dirt.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: frogprince
Date: 21 May 05 - 07:56 PM

Earth to Doug: have you ever tried to flush a roll of toilet
paper down the toilet, without tearing it into pieces first?

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 May 05 - 08:02 PM

Is the suggestion that this kind of incident hasn't happened, or that people in Afghanistan and other countries are only going to believe it happened when there is a story in a reputable American magazine reporting it?

Plenty of editions of the Qu'aran which are pocket-size.

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff
Date: 21 May 05 - 08:07 PM

Dear Hubby,
   There would not be any controversy or blatant misuse of the media and blatant use of the anti-media if George W Bush did not steal two elections and plunder us all into war and depression!

Sincerely,
Peter

Subject: RE: BS: Liberal Media getting Soldiers Killed...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 May 05 - 08:26 PM

Bull, Dougie...

That is nuthin' but Karl Rove propaganda...

Karl Rove knows that he has gotten his boy indeep poop and is flailing away at the press at every juncture trying to make his boy's decision's look maoral and the press's immoral... Problem is that it the opposite. His boy has made the bad calls and refuses to own up to them...

Okay, lets look at Newsweek. What was it saying in the run-up to the invasion about folks who were credible and had another story to tell? Not adanged thing! And Newsweek's owner, the Washington Post? Not a danged thing. The Post even printed a story last August about how it had failed to do the good journalism during the run-up to the invasion. They said that they had fallen into some "culture"... Hmmmmm, here you has credible sources refuttin' all of the lies that Bush & Co. were using to whip the masses up into a nationalistic lather for war that were being ignored because they were is some kind culture????

Like give me a break...

So I wrote the Washington Post and asked them, seein' as the admitted to bein' is some kind of culture in the run-up to war what they had done to change the odss that they might be cuaght up in the next, ahhhhh, culture before the next run-up to war... I've been waitin' since last Augusr for their anawer... Just as the American people have been waitin' over 3 years for Bush's answers... But what in the heck do we get from thre Post, Newsweek and Bush?

Well, I'll tell ya what. Zip, nada, nuthin'. That's what we get... And so now Bush snaps at Newsweek??? Like go figure??? Nesweek was one of his lackies in the run-up to war??? Like what's this about??? Well, I'll tell ya....

....it's about Karl Rove sacrificin' lambs to protect his boy...

Nuthin' more 'n nuthin less...

Don't like hearin' it than move to Mars 'cause its the truth. You know it, I know it and the world knows it...

This is a bogus attack on Newsweek...

You wanta attack integrity? Bush and Rove are two big, big, unmissable targets...

Bobert