BS: So.....you say Bush lied?

Subject: RE: BS: So.....you say Bush lied?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 08:42 PM

CarolC 27 Jun 06 - 03:43 PM - Completely wrong CarolC for a whole raft of reasons.

Greg F. 27 Jun 06 - 12:03 PM

"dual use equipment" - some noted examples of such:

Would you call a pencil a deadly weapon Greg F - you can certainly kill somebody with one very easily.

Most people have lurking under their kitchen sinks sufficient ingredients to blow themselves and their houses to kingdom come. Now none of this stuff is controlled, all in its own right is perfectly harmless, yet when combined with a certain amount of knowledge it is deadly.

In another thread quite recently we had the massive catalogue of weapons shipped by the US and UK to prop up their bad-guy of the day, Saddam while he was fighting the Iranians, it amounted to little or no weapons at all, in fact over the period covered it amounted to less than 0.005%. The Russians on the other hand supplied Saddam with 61% of his needs and the French I think something like 18%. So please don't go banging on about how much this or that US administration supported Saddam Hussein with arms and weapons - the plain fact of the matter is that they didn't others did.

Subject: RE: BS: So.....you say Bush lied?
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 08:59 PM

CarolC 27 Jun 06 - 03:43 PM - Completely wrong CarolC for a whole raft of reasons.

No support for your position, Guest, 27 Jun 06 - 08:42 PM? You want us to take your word for it just because you say so? I don't think so.

Subject: RE: BS: So.....you say Bush lied?
From: Arne
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 02:43 AM

BeardedBruce:

"380 SA-2 missile engines"

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/documents/quarterly_reports/s-2004-435.pdf

"[F]ollowing a visit of IAEA to a scrapyard in Rotterdam to investigate increased radiation readings, it was discovered, through photographs taken at the time, that engines of SA-2 surface-to-air missiles were among the scrap. They are of a type of engines used in the Al Samoud 2 proscribed missile program."

The Al-Samoud were of debatable illegitimacy (but Saddam agreed to scrap them, so as to avoid giving Dubya even the slightest excuse to go in with guns blazing, which he did, with cameras rolling). But these engines were in scrap in Rotterdam (that hot-bed of Terra-ism). Whoopdedoo. I'd also note that selling of scrap is something that the U.S., as an occupation force, should have taken responsibility for (if it was even anything of concern ... unlike, say, the looting of the many weapons depots in the aftermath of the invasion).

As for the WoMD, Duelfer already reported this. Pre-GWI weapons, degraded and useless.

But BeardedBruce is pushing the same ol' maladministration crapola (this time propagated by proxies, so that when the truth comes out, the maladministration can say "weeeee didn't say that!.....")

Cheers,