BS: War with England?

Subject: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:00 PM

I have heard from friends in Boston that the British have marched troops to Concord and Lexington to disarm the militias, that shots were exchanged, and soldiers have been wounded.

Could this be the beginning of a war of rebellion against England and King George? What will Pitt say? Where will the French stand?

Oh, my.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Peace
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:03 PM

Shall we have some tea?

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Peace
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:39 PM

History of . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: kendall
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:44 PM

Jeez! the mudcat wasn't down THAT long.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Peace
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:49 PM

It sure was, Jack. Why, just a few minutes ago I noticed that somehow the MOAB thread whereon I posted post 10,000, probably the first in the history of the Mudcat--is back to 8081. You must know how sad I feel. But will I complain? Damn right. I spent near 18 hours posting to MOAB so I could score the 10,000th post. See what's happened? I am shocked and dismayed. BUT, we shall fight the Viking invaders and beat them off (let me rephrase that) send them home to Switzerland with their Hondas slinking behind them.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 10:28 PM

I never said Idaho was up to date....

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: number 6
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 10:51 PM

War with England ???? ..... no way !

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 11:04 PM

Some are saying that we must invade Canada. Perhaps Ben Franklin can become Governor-General at Quebec or Montreal.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: John O'L
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:23 AM

What was that shot I just heard here in Oz?

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 11:57 AM

The shot will be heard around the world, J O'L.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:05 PM

No need to worry about that shot .... it was just Archduke Franz Fernindad being assassinated. Certainly won't affect England at all.

Watercrest sandwiches ... excellent, refreshing, on a warm summer afternoon. Anyone else like watercrest sandies. Best when the crusts are cut off.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:10 PM

Britain! When will you learn. It's Britain, not just England.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:13 PM

England is England .... Britain is England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland ... depending on what part of history and time we are stuck currently in here at the Mucat.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: English Jon
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:18 PM

I've never been to britain.

English Jon

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:34 PM

"watercrest" has 2 images in Google.. "watercress gets 40-50.

Now there's something to go to war over! ;>)

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 01:00 PM

I know what let's do! Let's all agree on a day and time (adjusted for time zones and such stuff) and all toss back a dram of whatever! It can be the shot drunk 'round the world!

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Tam the man
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 01:04 PM

I see that you are war with ENGLAND and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are not at war with you. IE Britain.

Tom

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 01:29 PM

Yes, we colonials are not at war with the Welsh, the Scots, the Manx, the Irish, the Jerseyites, the Sarkers, the Channel Islanders, or anyone else.   Just the English. They're the ones who marched on Concord and Lexington.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 03:04 PM

6, you mean someone shot the Ostrich???

English marched on Concord? What happened to the Irish, Scots, Welsh, Swiss and Germans in it, don't they count?

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 03:52 PM

They said (or at least I am told they said), "Hades no! We shan't go!"

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 04:41 PM

That's correct Guest, Allen. The ostrich has been shot.

The news was the talk of the town today.

Which reminds me, I must ride back into town for a new batch of watercress. We are serving watercrest sandwiches again for tomorrow's tea.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 06:51 PM

Do people still sing Riflemen of Lexington? It used to be in all those folksongbooks that were around in the 60's and I often wondered how the tune went.

as you get older, all your curiosity disipates itself into thoughts centred round your own comfort (I have found!)

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 07:06 PM

I myself sing "The World Turned Upside Down."

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 07:44 PM

Ahh, the 'cat ate my post earlier. England has only ever been at war with Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Spain, Holland, the Vikings and the Normans*. Some of them only once! The civil wars, wars of succession, and various little wars agianst natives don't really count...

*The Romans and Saxons invaded before England really existed, and we only fought the Germans, Italians, Russian, Japan, Iraq, Argintina, Korea Chinese, rebellious Americans, rebellious Boers, various other Indian states and the Austro-Hungarian empire after we became the United Kingdom (1705)

Such a peaceful little country.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 08:27 PM

You're at war with quite a lot of Americans too, especially the ones with darker complexions.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 12:12 AM

er.. who is?

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Kaleea
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 12:21 AM

If they'd all just play Music, there wouldn't be any stupid war. I say, give 'em Musical Instruments, not guns.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 02:03 AM

yeh great idea.......
banjos and bodhrans at fifty paces. It my last territorial claim. I have spoken with The EFFDS and its peace in our time.......

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: alanabit
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 02:56 AM

Er, are you quite sure that the distribution of banjos and bodhrans is going to cause any less fighting than the other stuff?

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Gurney
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 03:32 AM

Rapaire, thou art not nice! Here the poor Poms are, trying to save the world from the worst tyrant in the last 1900 years, and you don't want to make any contribution at all. You even make the situation worse, and you follow ambitious politicians in their bid for power.
I suppose you'll make heroes of them, later on.

As an ex-Pom I naturally don't view the Revolution in the same light as Americans do. We'll be lucky if we aren't having to learn French again, next year.

Bloody politicians.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:00 AM

I'm in favour of it.
G.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:08 AM

"Where will the french stand?" Rest assured those cheese eating surrender monkeys will stand way way way back!

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah2
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:25 AM

I advise the Americans not to start a war with us - we simply don't have enough room for that number of prisoners, we'd have to start sending you to France.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:44 AM

It's quite interesting to note that England lost its independence in 1707 before America gained hers.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 05:22 AM

The Royal Army (of the United Kingdom of Great Britian) in the 1770s had quite a mix. English, Welsh, Scots, Irish, Germans, Swiss, French, Hungarians, Croats, Danes and Scandinavians, most of Europe in fact.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 08:05 AM

who says multi national task forces don't work....?

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 09:22 AM

And before some smart arse Yankee points out we lost the war of Independence, just reflect of two words: British Empire. We didn't lose many of those little wars....

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:35 PM

Let's see ... do you speak English? ;o)

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:41 PM

Oh, my. Now I hear that Ft. Ticonderoga has fallen to some chap from Vermont.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:41 PM

Bunnahabhain, I'm with the 'smart arsed Yankees' on this one. The British Empire has nothing to be proud of whereas the Americans do ... as far as independence from Britain is concerned (would that more of us could).

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 05:14 PM

That's do-able. Pack your kit and fuck off.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 08:50 PM

they all hate us anyhow
so lets drop the big one now

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 11:15 AM

Oh please, please, pretty please, do go to war with us.

We'll surrender unconditionally on the second day.

Well! Look what it did for the German economy.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: annamill
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 02:11 PM

Brucie, "I spent near 18 hours posting to MOAB so I could score the 10,000th post."

WHAT??

Some of you people are crazy! Nuts! Beyond help!

18 hours, cheez!

Love, Annamill

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Tam the man
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:48 AM

Jim,

Don't you mean Scotland lost is independance in 1707 April the 6th

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 02:00 PM

Yes, Tam. Both England and Scotland ceased to be independant sovereign states. The difference is in the understanding and implementation of the Treaty of Union. In true British fashion the Scots, like Walter Scott for example who signed himself NB for North Britain, considered that 'down South' was England whereas most English, even today, consider 'up North' as somewhere around Manchester or York. 'Anglo' can mean 'English' as in Anglo Irish football match but 'British' as in Anglo Irish agreement. So it's all the mind!!

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 07:16 PM

It seems that the English forget that the French successfully invaded (with troops on English soil) in the C13, and a German called William brought 10,000 troops and became King of England a few centuries later...

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 07:58 PM

And there was that Welshman Henry Tudor...

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: The Walrus
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 02:42 AM

"...and a German called William brought 10,000 troops and became King of England a few centuries later..."

Surely that 'German' was Dutch (and he had a better claim, through his missus, than most of the snail-fanciers who've tried).

Anyway, don't worry about the idea of War in the American colonies -
It's only a tax dodge to avoid paying their end of the cost of stuffing the French in the Seven Years (or as they quaintly call it 'French and Indian')War.

W

Subject: RE: BS: War with England?
From: GUEST, Jim
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 05:38 AM

We can't be at war with the Americans, they haven't been invented yet. Not until they win the war of independance can they be Americans.