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Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar

Le Scaramouche 24 Jun 05 - 06:47 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE GALLANT HUSSAR
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 24 Jun 05 - 06:47 PM

Transcribed from the Eliza Carthy and the Ratcatchers album "Rough Music".
It's attributed to Emily Cockram of Meshaw, Devon, collected by Cecil Sharp in 1904:

A damsel possessed of great beauty,
She stood by her own father's gate,
The gallant hussars were on duty,
To view them this maiden did wait;
Their horses were capering and prancing,
Their accoutrements shone like a star,
From the plain they were nearest advancing,
She espied her young gallant hussar.

Their pellisses were slung on their shoulders,
So careless they seemed for to ride,
So warlike appeared these young soldiers,
With glittering swords by each side.
To the barracks next morning so early,
This damsel she went in her car,
Because she loved him sincerely-
Young Edward, the gallant Hussar.

It was there she conversed with her soldier,
These words he was heard for to say,
Said Jane, I've heard none more bolder,
To follow my laddie away.
0 fie! said young Edward, be steady,
And think of the dangers of war,
When the trumpet sounds I must be ready,
So wed not your gallant Hussar.

For twelve months on bread and cold water,
My parents confined me for you,
0 hard-hearted friends to their daughter,
Whose heart it is loyal and true;
Unless they confine me for ever,
Or banish me from you afar,
I will follow my soldier so clever,
To wed with my gallant Hussar.

Said Edward, Your friends you must mind them,
Or else you are for ever undone,
They will leave you no portion behind them,
So pray do my company shun.
She said, If you will be true-hearted,
I have gold of my uncle in store,
From this time no more we'll be parted,
I will wed with my gallant Hussar.

As he gazed on each elegant feature,
The tears they did fall from each eye,
I will wed with this beautiful creature,
And forsake cruel war, he did cry.
So they were united together,
Friends think of them now they're afar,
Crying; Heaven bless them now and for ever,
Young Jane and her gallant Hussar.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE GALLANT HUSSAR
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Jun 05 - 07:07 PM

Broadsides in the Bodleian Library, early and mid-1800s.

A fine midi at The Contemplator, along with lyrics:
Gallant Hussar
Several ballads at the Bodleian use the tune. It was still popular at the time of the American Civil War, when a sheet was published by De Masran in New York (copies at American Memory and at the Bodleian).

Thread with comments on the "Rough Music" cd-81369: Rough Music


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE GALLANT HUSSAR
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 24 Jun 05 - 08:35 PM

Eliza is rather more specific about her source than "Le Scaramouche" implies. "This version of the song comes from Still Growing, English Traditional Songs & Singers from the Cecil Sharp Collection, a book of songs collected by Cecil Sharp with fascinating pictures and stories of the people he learned from, published by the EFDSS..."

The book was published in 2003, and can be ordered from The English Folk Dance and Song Society. They have an online shop, with a secure ordering facility, almost ready at http://folkshop.efdss.org/. I think it's already functional, but lacks some images and "additional information" links at the moment.

Mrs Emily Cockram sang two songs for Sharp: The Gallant Huzzar and Lord Thomas and Fair Eleanor. Sharp didn't record any information about her, and the editors of Still Growing weren't able to find any.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE GALLANT HUSSAR
From: masato sakurai
Date: 24 Jun 05 - 09:43 PM

At Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads:

young edward the gallant hussar [title]

gallant hussar [title]

gallant hussar [tune]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: THE GALLANT HUSSAR
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 10:30 AM

Yes she did, apologies. Thought listing the source singer would be enough.

Allen


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE GALLANT HUSSAR (from Bodleian)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 12:13 AM

There are some small differences between this broadside version and the field-collected song. I have modernized the punctuation.

From Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads, Harding B 16(100b)

THE GALLANT HUSSAR

A damsel possess'd of great beauty,
She stood by her own father's gate.
The gallant hussars were on duty.
To view them this maiden did wait.
Their horses were capering and prancing.
Their accoutrements shone like a star.
From the plains they were nearest advancing,
She espied her young gallant hussar.

Their pelisses hung o'er their shoulders,
So careless they seem'd for to ride,
So warlike appear'd those young soldiers,
With glittering swords by their sides.
To the barracks next morning so early,
This damsel she went in her car,
Because she lov'd him sincerely,
Young Edward, the gallant hussar.

It was there she convers'd with her soldier.
These words they were heard for to say:
Said Jane, "I've a heart, none more bolder,
To follow my laddie away."
"O fie!" said young Edward. "Be steady.
An I think of the dangers of war,
When the trumpet does sound, I am ready,
So wed not your gallant hussar.

"Twelve months upon bread and cold water
My parents confin'd me for you.
O! cruel friends to their daughter,
Whose heart it is loyal and true!
Unless they confine me for ever,
Or banish me from you afar,
I will follow my soldier so clever,
And wed with my gallant hussar."

Said Edward, "Your friends you must mind them,
Or else you're for ever undone.
They will leave you no portion behind them,
So pray do my company shun."
She said, "If you will be true-hearted,
I have gold of my uncle's in store.
From this time, no more we'll be parted,
But wed with my gallant hussar."

As he gaz'd on each beautiful feature,
The tears they did fall from each eye.
"I'll wed with this beautiful creature,
And forsake cruel wars," he did cry.
So now they're united together.
Friends think of them now when afar,
Crying, "Heaven bless them for ever,
Young Jane and her gallant hussar!"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: GUEST,Storyteller
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 07:30 AM

This amplified entry copied from Steve Roud's Folktrax index shows that the song was widely known, with examples collected from England, Scotland, Ireland - and Utah!

Full credit to Eliza Carthy for reviving this wonderful song. It shows that the publication of Still Growing by the EFDSS is paying off if this and other songs from the book are being sung again.

GALLANT HUSSAR, THE
"A damsel possessed of great beauty" - Jane & Edward - confined by parents - ROUD#1146

Broadsides: "Young Edward, the Gallant Hussar" -
Broadside by John FORD of Chesterfield 1830s (Roy Palmer Reprint 2001) "The Gallant Hussar"

Sabine BARING GOULD Manuscripts 2:#34/ 2:#193/ 2:#208/ 5:#110/ 5:#243/ 7:#185/ 7:#264/ 8:#192/ 9:#66/ 9:#160
Robert FORD Vagabond Songs of Scotland 1899 1 p254, 2 pp91-93
William Alexander BARRETT English Folk-Songs 1891 pp24-25
DUNCAN Ms W135/ M122 (12v)
The GREIG-DUNCAN Folk Song Collection 1995 vol 5 #982 pp163-5 4var6v/m
Cecil SHARP Cf 1 p205 (not in Sharp-Karpeles 1974)
Cecil SHARP Morris Book
Percy GRAINGER #256 Thomas Beedham, Brigg, Lincolnshire 1906
Gavin GREIG Folk Songs of the North East 1906-14 #150
Patrick JOYCE Old Irish Folk Music and Songs 1909 #290 p137 m only
Honoria GALWEY Old Irish Croonauns and other tunes 1910 p27
Alfred WILLIAMS Songs of the Upper Thames #135 James West, Quenington, Gloucestershire (words only)
Sam HENRY Songs of the People #243a:
HUNTINGTON (ed.) Sam Henry's Songs of the People 1990 pp473-4 (m/o) #243b: John McLeese, Bushmills, Co Antrim 1928 "Young Edward the Gallant Hussar"
Frank KIDSON A Garland of English Folk Songs 1926 pp42-3
Karl DALLAS The Cruel Wars 1972 pp89-91 "Young Edward" from Sam Henry Collection
Fred HAMER Green Groves 1973 pp42-3 Arthur Lane, Shropshire
Cecil SHARP Still Growing 2003 p39 5v from Emily Cockram, Meshaw, Devon 1904 from Ms

Lester A. HUBBARD Ballads and Songs from Utah 1961 pp141-2 Andrew Allen Ms diary, Utah (words only) (refs)

see also THE BLUE- EYED STRANGER - RAKISH YOUNG FELLOW

RECORDINGS:
Roise GREEN rec by Seamus Ennis, Arranmore, Donegal 2/9/54:
RPL 21902/Folktrax 518
La Rena CLARK rec by Edith Fowke Ontario, Canada: TOPIC 12-T-140 1965


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 07:46 AM

Wow, could anyone post the lyrics to the Utah version?
Also details of where and when collected if possible.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: GUEST,Storyteller
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 08:14 AM

Sorry, I can't help with the Utah version. There are some second hand copies of the book available from $18 and upwards through Abebooks and Alibris on Bookfinder. You could check library catalogues on the internet. Publication details are:-

BALLADS AND SONGS FROM UTAH Hubbard, Lester A.(ed.)
Music Transcription By Kenly W. Whitelock
Salt Lake City, Utah: University Of Utah Press. 1961 Hard Bound.
This is a collection of traditional songs and ballads which were sung by Mormons and other colonists who migrated to Utah between 1847 and 1900. 475 pages. 8vo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 09:24 AM

That sounds very good. In fact think mum went to University of utah. But please if anyone can post lyrics and who it was collected from, I'd be very grateful.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: GUEST,Storyteller
Date: 30 Jun 05 - 08:02 AM

Scaramouche, the source of the Utah version would appear to be the manuscript diary of Andrew Jackson Allen 1818-1884 of Draperville, Utah. He was one of the Mormon pioneers of 1847, and kept a diary from 1848 until his death in 1884 which is a valuable record of the early Mormon days in Utah, including the Utah War of 1857. Copies of the diary, or of a typescript of it, are held by the University of Utah Library, the Utah State University Library and the Utah State Historical Society among others.
Some part, at least, of the diary may be viewed and downloaded from the Utah, Our Pioneer Heritage database but you need to be a registered subscriber to Ancestry.com. There is an offer of a free 14-day trial if you are willing to part with your credit card details and cancel them within 14 days. I'm not so trusting!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jun 05 - 01:31 PM

Not included in Cheney, ed., "Mormon Songs From the Rocky Mountains," Univ. Utah Press, 1981.

Ancestry.com is legitimate, but unless one is pursuing genealogical questions, subscribing for one item is expensive.

I have contacted libraries for data, and some are willing to provide photocopies (not cheap these days).
I wish I had the wherewithall to spend time at the Utah State Univ. archives in order to go through the Fife Ms collection of western songs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: CET
Date: 01 Jul 05 - 10:20 AM

Congratulations to whoever made that MIDI file. It's one of the very few I've ever heard that had a discernible tune.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 01 Jul 05 - 01:57 PM

The MIDIs on the Contemplator site are, on thw whole, rather good. Best of the lot is "Down Among the Dead Men".
Anyway, thanks for the information on the Utah source, I should be able to run it down.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: masato sakurai
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 08:01 AM

From Lester A. Hubbard, ed., Ballads and Songs from Utah (University of Utah Press, 1961, pp. 141-42; without music):
      THE GALLANT HUSSAR

(Eddy, p. 313, reports two stanzas and tune from Ohio. See also JAFL, LX, 221-222. / From the diary of Andrew W. Allen in the possession of Mrs. R.M. Moulton of Salt Lake City. Her mother, Mrs. Mable Overson of Leamington, sang the first two stanzas for recording, Aug. 20, 1948.)

A maiden possessed of great beauty
Stood alone by her own father's gate.
The gallant hussars were on duty,
And to view them this maiden did wait.
The horses were capering and prancing,
Their accoutrements shone like a star;
From the plains they were slowly advancing
When she spied her gallant hussar.

Their pelisses were thrown o'er their shoulders,
So gallant they seemed for to ride;
So warlike appeared those young soldiers,
With the glittering swords by their side.
To the barracks next morning so early,
This maiden she went in her car
Because she had loved him since early,
Young Edward, her gallant hussar.

It was there she conversed with her soldier,
And these words they were heard to say,
Says Jane, "I've heard there's none bolder
Than to follow my laddie away."
"My dear," says young Edward, "be steady
And think of the dangers of war.
When the trumpet does sound I'll be ready,
So wed not your gallant hussar."

"For twelve months on bread and cold water,
My parents confined me from you.
Such hardhearted friends to their daughter,
Whose heart was so loyal and true.
But unless they confine me forever
Or banish me from you afar,
I will follow my laddie forever
And wed with my gallant hussar."

Says Edward, "Your friends you must mind
Lest you are forever undone.
They'll leave you no fortune behind them,
So I pray do my company shun."
Says Jane, "If you will be my truehearted,
I've gold in my muscles in store;
From now no more we'll be parted,
And I'll wed with my gallant hussar."

As he gazed on each beautiful feature,
The tears they did fall from each eye.
"I'll wed with the beautiful creature
And forsake cruel war," he did cry.
And now they're united together,
They fear not these friends that's afar.
Heaven bless them now and forever,
Young Jane and her gallant hussar.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: Alice
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 08:59 AM

CET, Lesley Nelson, creator of the Contemplator site, is a Mudcat member.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 08:03 PM

Thanks, Masato.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Gallant Hussar
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 May 21 - 07:16 PM

Joe- do cleanup


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