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BS: Anybody grow peppers?

Cluin 02 Aug 05 - 06:54 PM
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Subject: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 06:54 PM

Specifically, sweet peppers.

I've been growing Green Lady Bells, Golden Bells, Big Berthas and some undetermined hybrids from seeds saved from store-bought pepers and germinated in early spring. It was a good hot summer, so ideal for pepper growing, both in pots and gardens (both of which I planted).

The most successful plants were the ones I got from a local greenhouse and put in pots, but now they seem not to be progressing as well. The peppers haven't grown much more in the last 2 weeks and certainly don't seem to be ripening. Most of the other copious blossoms paled and dropped off at the stem so I am left with only 4 or 5 peppers max on each plant. Some of the leaves are yellowing and all the leaves have curled quite a bit into tube-like positions. Could it be too much sun, heat, or water (or not enough? we finally got a good rain over the weekend) or maybe a nutrient deficiency? Should I add some bone meal or a shot of Schultz's?

On the up side, my Roma tomatoes seem to be finally gaining ground...


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 07:56 PM

Guiness will fix anything!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:00 PM

I ain't pouring my Guinness in the dirt!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:12 PM

Try this guy's site:


Festa's peppers


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: bobad
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:12 PM

There is a virus which causes leaf curl in peppers, don't know if that's your problem but you can check it out here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:14 PM

"I ain't pouring my Guinness in the dirt!"

Drink it first!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: bobad
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:31 PM

Not a good idea Peace as urine contains urea nitrogen which promotes leaf growth at the expense of fruit growth, peppers do best with minimal nitrogen even if it originates in the waters of the river Liffey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:36 PM

OOPS.

That must hold true for evergreen trees too. Six of us at a summer camp gymnastics camp turned a beautifl fir tree orange by the end of the summer. (We were between the ages of 13-15 at the time.) Thank you for the info.

Cluin--listen to Bobad. He knows whereof he speaks.

Thank, B.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:53 PM

Thanks, bobad. Lots of info at that site; best one I've seen on the subject.

I don't think it's a viral or fungus thing. I suspect it's more like a moisture or heat or nutrient problem. I was avoiding fertizing the plants after they blossomed for just the reason you mentioned above. We had a couple of cooler nights recently so that might be it too.

By the way, here are some pics I took today of the plants in question (notice the curly leaves?):

The Big Berthas, supposed to be red when ripe

The Lady Bells, a green variety.

A Golden Bell, yellow when ripe. You can see a yellowed leaf at the bottom.

Another Golden Bell, with a yellowing blossom on the left, ready to drop off.

Maybe I need to harvest some of the bigger peppers? Not enough plant mojo to go round for the new runts to develop?...


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:09 PM

BTW, it's not a good idea to water them when the sun is up and hot. It can crack the peels and eventually lead to a rot of the pepper itself. Like tomatoes in that way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: bobad
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:16 PM

I believe I read somewhere that if the temperature drops to below 10 degrees C. the blossoms will drop and no fruit will develop.

Where are you situated ?

I am in eastern Ontario and we had a few nights recently where the temp fell to well below 10C.

BTW what site are you using for those photos you linked to, it looks pretty cool ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:24 PM

Located in central northern Ontario, specifically, Sault Ste Marie Had a couple cool nights last week, after more than a month of near tropical weather. And no rain. I was watering a lot with water I got from a nearby artesian.

It's webspace on my site from my ISP. 10 Megs comes free with my Shaw account.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 10:24 PM

"after more than a month of near tropical weather"

Oh don't make me come up there!

Grrrr!

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 10:46 PM

I just meant temperature-wise. We needed the rain badly. Lawns are all brown.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: bobad
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 10:12 AM

Very nice site Cluin, also like your artwork.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 10:21 AM

Peppers are in the same family as tomatoes.....which will only set fruit between 50 and 70 F. If it got too hot, that is probably the reason. I can grow peppers here, but the growing season is so short that few of them actually have time to turn colours. For sweet reds, try Pimiento (sp?) They turn red a bit sooner than some of the others.

Had no luck with the chocolates, purples, whites, etc....some with yellow and orange.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: MMario
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 10:39 AM

drought, too much heat, too little heat will a prevent fruit set in peppers. Normally 5 or six per plant is a normal set however. Picking some "green" allows more to set.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:58 AM

My peppers are looking pretty sorry now, too much heat and not enough water (North Texas). I had my son watering while I was out of town. But they've had a hard growing season anyway, as has most of the garden.

If you mulch around your plants they'll hold the moisture better. You might want to use some containers of beer at night to catch anything that might be eating them, and yes, you can end up with too many fruits and none of them will grow as large as you'd like. Thin them every so often and cook the little ones you pick early. Garlic pepper tea, or a little neem (if it isn't getting warm--I fried a tree when I sprayed it on in hot weather) might do the trick to keep microscopic and larger predators away.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: open mike
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 12:22 PM

best not to water the leaves
overhead water damages the plants
water only on the ground..
and if you get peppers
the best thing to do with
them is Pepper Jelly..
it is sweet, and sour, and
has vinegar and honey
and it is yummy on toast
better than Marmite!@

http://www.recipesource.com/

go there and search for "pepper jelly"

i use agar agar to set it..not pectin.

using some green, yellow and red peppers
as well as onions and garlic with a few
hot peppers makes a great spread!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Cluin
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 02:55 PM

Thanks, bobad. I haven't updated that site in a long while though...

So I guess I will harvest a few of the larger peppers in hopes of getting the smaller ones to ripen. I'll also try and shield the plants from some of the mid-afternoon sun as well; The ones that took the full brunt of it without any shade all day, seem to be suffering the worst.

My other tomato plants in the garden (which doesn't get much direct sun)are pretty leafy, but finally some blossoms are appearing. Maybe I'll get to make some fresh salsa after all. Anybody got a good recipe, a la Lone Star?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: dianavan
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 12:05 PM

Those pepper plants look beautiful to me!

I wouldn't worry about the leaves. Leaves often form a cup-like shape so that they can catch every drop of water during drought conditions.

Water at the base of the plants. They like lots of water.

Yes, harvest the peppers that are ripe to preserve the energy of the plant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:42 PM

I agree with dianavan, I hadn't looked at the photos when I responded. They look fine. If I had the energy to go out into the 100+ degree day and photograph my poor shriveled banana peppers then you'd see a sorry sight.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: GUEST,Cluin
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 09:28 PM

I tried harvesting a couple of the larger ones. Still pretty bitter. I hope we have a bit more warm weather left in August so they can ripen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: GUEST,Rumncoke
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 03:24 PM

I've used a plastic tube and a water storage tank to drip water tomatoes, peppers, and a variety of other vegetables.

The water warmed up in the tank, and I just poked a pin into the tube where I wanted the water - I checked regularly when first setting up, and re pinned the holes where necessary as they tended to seal up - it was quite narrow transparent tubing.

I used to put a little fertiliser in the tank a couple of times a week.

The curling of leaves is a reaction to drought, it created a micro climate to reduce water loss by transpiration, but also reduces photosynthesis.

If you have hot sun all day you could try creating a little shade using netting, which can be removed if the light is not so fierce, or doubled up if you get clear skies.

Anne - who is a member but appearing as a guest for some reason.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody grow peppers?
From: Rank
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 04:25 PM

If leaves are yellowing could be that they want potting on. Try a mixture of soil, compost and general fertiliser. Planting in compost only will leave them short of nutrients.

Try spraying the flowers with a water mist, as for tomatoes in the greenhouse, for setting.


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