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Subject: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 05 - 03:31 PM ...Venezuala, it's cheaper than war!" said TV evangeliest and former Presidential candidate Pat Robertson on his "news" show the 700 club. whata Christian. The 10 commandments be damned - as long as the alternative is cheaper. Today all sorts of people in the State Dept and Pentagon including Rumsfeld himself were hade to respond to Pat's declaration of murder. The official Rumsfeld response is "private citizens say all sorts of things all the time". ..... Methinks the new Patriot act and Homelandland security statutes actually have a more stringent view of threatening speech, but I suppose those only apply to non Christians. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: CarolC Date: 23 Aug 05 - 03:36 PM Link to other thread on this subject (just to keep them both together). |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: curmudgeon Date: 23 Aug 05 - 03:56 PM Should we be surprised. Fron an AP story on today's Yahoo News comes this: Robertson has made controversial statements in the past. In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Deckman Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:05 PM What's the surprise here. He's a so called "christian," using his flexible "christian" ethics. Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Metchosin Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:26 PM Gee, I wonder if there is a reward offered, like there was for Solomon Rushdie? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:30 PM CNN was just now using a 4 panel TV screen to preview upcoming stories. One was of Bush speaking out against Sheehan, another was of Barbara Striesand and the last one was of Chavez BUT his head was in the center of the 4 screens which made it appear that he was in the shakey crosshairs of a sniper. I've been doing cartoons of Robertson for well over 12 years but his own parody of himself is best. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:45 PM Pat Robertson is a little too far to the right, even for me. This was totally uncalled for and he should publicly apologize for saying such a thing immediately. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Don Firth Date: 23 Aug 05 - 04:51 PM As I said on the other thread (maybe these two can be melded): How this man can call himself a "Christian" is beyond me. He more than amply demonstrates that he hasn't a clue!! (Bloodthirsty bastard!) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: curmudgeon Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:02 PM It is my observation that those who most loudly profess their Christianity or other faith, are least likely to practise it. If patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, then religion is the last refuge of the "patriot." |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: John Hardly Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:03 PM 'twould be interesting, indeed, if he were to be charged for inciting terrorism under some clause of the Patriot Act. That would most likely only show how toothless such a clause would probably be in the prosecution of it. First, under our Patriot act it would be argued that the incitement wasn't against us. Second, it would probably have to be shown, without reasonable doubt, that anyone was actually incited. Third, the ACLU would, no doubt, grit their teeth and defend the bastard, knowing full well that the free speech that they wish for themselves cannot reasonably be denied another. It is interesting that it was just last week that someone here posited the idea that assassination and subtrafuge should be the way of dealing with future terrorism. The concept is catching on. Who knew who all reads mudcat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Metchosin Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:06 PM What good is an apology, eh? If the CIA won't stop him, there's bound to be some Christian whacko out there that would gladly take Robertson up on it, for Jesus' sake and to bring Venezuelan oil back in the rightful control of the good ole USA. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Deckman Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:09 PM HALLELUJAH BROTHER .... AMEN! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:17 PM this is the guy who, when Hurricane Isabel was bearing down on Virginia beach where his offices are, asked his followers to go out on the shore and 'pray' the storm to swerve and ruin someone else...*grin*....He has some 'interesting' ideas... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Metchosin Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:37 PM Ever notice that assholes like this never call for the head of someone like Mugabe? No economic imperative I guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: CarolC Date: 23 Aug 05 - 05:42 PM Robertson's suggestion has nothing whatever to do with preventing terrorism, John Hardly. It is, as usual, only about one thing... oil (and money). |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 05 - 06:16 PM hmmm..seems he has prayed Hurricanes away twice! Gloria in 1985 (which hit Long Island) and Isabel in 2003. And he warned Florida ".. that Orlando might get hit by a hurricane because Disney allowed gays to enter the park and the city allowed flags to be flown." The first hurricane (Bonnie) that hit land after that knocked CBN of the air. God has a sense of humor, I guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,God Date: 23 Aug 05 - 08:20 PM Oh, if you only knew the full extent of my sense of humor, Bill, if you only knew. You would just be in stitches. (big smile) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 23 Aug 05 - 08:36 PM I think the best joke is that you have managed to convince so many that you actually exist... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,prodder Date: 23 Aug 05 - 09:01 PM poor foolestroupe..I am here |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: paddymac Date: 23 Aug 05 - 09:29 PM I wonder - was Coleridge actually thinkg of religion when he made his wrote his most famous line - the one about a willing suspension of disbelief. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 05 - 11:02 PM "... Bill, if you only knew." gee, I suspected, God, as you have pulled a few on ME over the years. Come by some time...I have a few pointed questions that you might help me with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,God Date: 23 Aug 05 - 11:10 PM ..for one thing, may I make a suggestion. Never end a sentence with a preposition. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 05 - 11:22 PM The arrogance of ignorance knows no bounds. As a result of Robertson's tirade, private security firms in the southern hemisphere are now facing an upsurge of murdered Americans and kidnapped Americans. Certainly the US kills leaders as a last resort when we can not control the election results. You can fill in the names of assasinations we sponsored in Viet Nam, Chile, Honduras, Guatamala and of course even the US. but to call for a religious fatwa against democraticly elected leaders does not even serve to help missionaries and corporate US business interests. What was he thinking? He was probably just repeating what Bush says in private meetings. The marriage of the religious right and war is the business of murder, and business is good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 23 Aug 05 - 11:27 PM Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your original purpose. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 05 - 11:39 PM Indeed the guilty are becoming more desperate as they see their base ,who still have common sense, slipping away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,Dillon Date: 24 Aug 05 - 12:30 AM Religion: what a sick, sick way to lead your only life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,noddy Date: 24 Aug 05 - 04:31 AM Was this the guy who was going to run for President......... Or is the President the guy who said this.......... Its great to be an American these days. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 24 Aug 05 - 07:36 AM Many things of dubious morality are discussed secretly by Intelligent Politic ans, but Dumb Idiots just can't help shooting their mouth off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: John Hardly Date: 24 Aug 05 - 07:53 AM "...gee, I suspected, God, as you have pulled a few on ME over the years. Come by some time...I have a few pointed questions that you might help me with. New definition of "atheist": One who believes God is responsible for one's pain and struggles, but otherwise, does not exist. *BG* |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Donuel Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:24 AM Those discussions are now called prayer breakfasts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Bill D Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:51 AM ".... Never end a sentence with a preposition." to paraphrase Churchill "That is the sort of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put.".... So, what are you gonna do about it, oh High & MIghty one? Zap my dictionary with a @##%%$#*&%bbbbbzzzzzzttttttttttttttttttttttt |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,G Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:54 AM Dillon, what about using it as a guideline for life? Ignore the first 3 or 4 of the Ten Commandments and push the rest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,Soma Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:56 AM Tell me God, why did you make that promise to Moses; couldn't you see what would happen? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Donuel Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:01 AM Wait a minute... how could we all be so blind? Robertson is right. It is cheaper to chop the chicken heads off whenever a country is opposed to the US. It is cheaper to kill the opponents to Republican rule. It is way cheaper than elections and Diebold vote counters. It is cheaper to kill an offending racial group taking up space in prisons. It is cheaper to kill the poor who amount to nothing more than needless eaters. It is cheaper to kill the King of the Jews. Its so damn cheap that it is amazing no one has thought of it before. My God what if a solution to all our problems could be so cheap, so easy and so final? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:38 AM I think Hitler got there first Donuel. it was called "The final solution" |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Ebbie Date: 24 Aug 05 - 12:12 PM By the way, Yes. This is the guy who ran for president of the US some years back. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST,wayoutwest Date: 24 Aug 05 - 02:16 PM He said this as a nutter, not a christian. Have a go at him all you like, but it'is a mistake to assume this is Christianity. “Love your neighbour, as yourselfâ€쳌. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: frogprince Date: 24 Aug 05 - 02:47 PM Latest "flash"; Bobertson (excuse me, that's Robertson) says he was misinterpreted...that "take him out" could mean any number of things, such as kidnapping. Just how ducking fumb does the man really think the rest of us are? (Bobert, I'm really not implying anything about you; honest, brother; I just did that on a weird impulse). |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Donuel Date: 24 Aug 05 - 02:57 PM Bush today at the all military family audience... "Anyone who opposes us is our enemy and will be subject to war!" "Anyone who harbors a terrist is the same as a terrist." Words used over 10 times: Moms, families, freedom, Words used over 20 times: curge, freedom, honor, sacrifice, National Guard, terrist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Ebbie Date: 24 Aug 05 - 03:32 PM On Monday, he said: "If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it." "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability." He made the comments during his "The 700 Club" television program. Yep. We misinterpreted him. It's getting pretty sad when non-religious, non-christian people find themselves aghast at the non-religious, non-christian hearts and minds and tongues of the religious, christian evangelists. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Bill D Date: 24 Aug 05 - 03:48 PM ah knowed whut 'terrists' were, but it took me a minnit to figger what 'curge' were! It's whut we need to have to deal with terrists. (That's if we ain't allowed to use nukular stuff on 'em!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Bobert Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:42 PM Well, frogprince, no offense taken... Heck, there is a part of what Pat Robertson said that I agree with and that is that part about why kill a lot of innocent folks, l;ike Bush has done in Iraq, when his beef is with just one, who now sits comfy in an Iraqi jail??? But I would disagree with Pat Robertson that takin' out a democartically elected president of Venezuala is, ahhhhh, not only non_Chrisatin but... ... friggin' nuts??? Liie what is Bush gonna do??? Jump Venezula ahead of his axis-of-eviler's and go bomb the carp outta Venezulaian women and children??? (Hush, Bobert, don't even let that thought make it anywhere where Junior might be lurkin'...) Ignore the above rhetorical question... Bobert p.s. Bush would actually invade a South American country, would he??? Would someone please send him a case of pretzels??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: jpk Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:13 PM just know robertson for what he really is,an it sure isn't a christian.he always was a sharltan and a conman,praying on instead of for those who are[he still is and does]. he is just as bad if not worse than j jackson or l farrakan. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:40 PM he's a businessman, trying to maximize his profits. The sort of bloke I imagine Jesus had in mind when he threw out the moneychangers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Bobert Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:46 PM He ain't gettin' a buck off me... And you can take that to bank... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Amos Date: 24 Aug 05 - 11:43 PM VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. — Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson has issued an apology for calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. "Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement. I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill him," Robertson's statement said. Rev. Jesse Jackson told FOX News that an apology is not enough. "The fact is that his impact is substantially great," said Jackson. "He supports the government, he is a former Republican presidential candidate. ... His statement carries weight." Robertson's statement acknowledged the controversy that has surrounded his remarks, but said the situation has shed light on an important topic. "There are many who disagree with my comments, and I respect their opinions. There are others who think that stopping a dictator is the appropriate course of action," he said. "In any event, the incredible publicity surrounding my remarks has focused our government's attention on a growing problem which has been largely ignored." Robertson explains in the statement the context of the comment and the reasons why he believes Chavez is a dangerous leader saying that he seeks to overthrow democracies, "found common cause with terrorists," and calls Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussein "comrades." Jackson, who plans to travel to Venezuela, stressed the danger of Robertson's comments especially in light of the downfall of Saddam Hussein. "It was illegal for us to go into Iraq on the basis of false information, so we have a credibility problem there," he said. "Our government must be very clear that we are against the desire to overthrow another government." Jackson told FOX News his trip to Venezuela has been in the works for more than two months, and coincides with the anniversary of the March on Washington. He said he will be there to talk to religious leaders about human rights and pro-democracy concepts, "not assassination and coups." When asked if he's going to Venezuela this weekend to apologize to Chavez, Jackson said, "Oh no, that's not my role." The televangelist had previously said Wednesday that his comments were "misinterpreted." "I didn't say 'assassination,'" Robertson clarified during a broadcast of his "The 700 Club" Wednesday morning. "I said our special forces should go 'take him out,' and 'take him out' could be a number of things, including kidnapping." He blamed The Associated Press for making him seem to advocate the assassination of a foreign leader. "There are a number of ways to take out a dictator from power besides killing him," Robertson said. "I was misinterpreted by the AP, but that happens all the time." However, during the original "700 Club" broadcast Monday night, Robertson clearly mentioned assassination. "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we are trying to assassinate him, we should go ahead and do it," Robertson said Monday. "It's a whole lot easier than starting a war, and I don't think any oil shipments will stop." Man, that guy is tap-dancing faster than a toad in a skillet. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Lin in Kansas Date: 25 Aug 05 - 01:00 AM Since he AND the Rev. Jesse Jackson both already think they're God, why is it a surprise to anyone with two brain cells that they're convinced it's okay if they act like God?? What a crock... Lin |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: Ebbie Date: 25 Aug 05 - 11:28 AM Gotta tell a true story. I once saw a snippet of the 700 Club show in which another "man of faith" told Robertson that men react strangely - and predictably- to some things. Like pink. He took a piece of pink cloth and laid it across Robertson's arm, then he took hold of Robertson's arm and clung to it and said, Now try to bend it. You won't be able to. Sure enough, Pat Robertson tried mightily and couldn't bend his arm. The "man of faith" explained that men are disempowered by the color pink. So the next time I saw my Robertson-following brother in law, I said, Allen, I want to experiment with you. Let me lay this pink across your arm. OK, now I'm going to keep you from bending your arm. OK, GO! He bent it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:25 PM You didn't tell him he wouldn't be able to bend it, and you weren't Pat, so he wasn't hypnotised... Just proves either 1) Pat and his cronies play up to each other so as not to spoil each other's acts or 2) Pat is a bear of very small brain.. er sorry... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Kill the President of... From: GUEST Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:32 PM Senility, perhaps? |
