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BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!

saulgoldie 08 Sep 05 - 12:38 PM
Don Firth 08 Sep 05 - 12:49 PM
GUEST,fiddler4143 08 Sep 05 - 01:08 PM
John MacKenzie 08 Sep 05 - 01:15 PM
Amos 08 Sep 05 - 01:27 PM
Don Firth 08 Sep 05 - 01:44 PM
Ebbie 08 Sep 05 - 02:10 PM
katlaughing 08 Sep 05 - 02:11 PM
Paul Burke 09 Sep 05 - 06:40 AM

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Subject: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: saulgoldie
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:38 PM

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Republicans_block_efforts_to_amendment_relief_bill_vote_without_c_0907.html

Can ANY Republican apologist make ANY possible case for this kind of total abuse of power? Cutting the opposition party totally out of the legislative action? This is not democracy in any sense of the word!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:49 PM

It's called "tyranny." They don't want to govern, they want to rule.

Congressional election coming up in 2006, Presidential election in 2008, assuming our votes actually count anymore. Under the assumption that they do, the time to get cracking is NOW!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: GUEST,fiddler4143
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 01:08 PM

I hope the thugs in charge of our goverment are sent a clear message next year 2006. We have to get control of this before we are completely lost!!! Some things can't ever be "fixed". But---we can't lose hope_______________


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 01:15 PM

Is the story I heard on the radio here true, that Bush and his cohorts want the new Chief Justice to be a conservative leaning anti abortionist, this being with a long term plan to overturn Roe V Wade?
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: Amos
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 01:27 PM

Excerpt from 1776:

"IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,


"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government."


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 01:44 PM

Yes, Giok, that's true. You won't hear the Bush administration admit it (it's too much of a "hot button" issue), but Roe v Wade is a major item on the agenda of things that the Right wants to ram through the Supreme Court. I, personally (and I know I'm not alone in this), regard Bush's opportunity to appoint two justices to the Supreme Court a disaster with possible long-term consequences (these appointments are for life).

My only hope is that, in the past, when conservative judges have been appointed, somehow the black robe and the august surroundings remind them that the Supreme Court is supposed to be one of the major guardians of the Constitution, and it's far too important to be the battleground for partisan issues. A couple of consevative judges have turned out to be a bit of a disappointment to those who appointed them because they did rise above this kind of partisanship.

Let's hope!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 02:10 PM

I agree with you, Don. The problem is, though, that we have always said that about the presidency too. It doesn't necessarily work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 02:11 PM

Cass Sunstein, a law professor, and author of Radicals in Robes: Why Extreme Right-Wing Courts are Wrong for America was on NPR, yesterday. Here's a bit of the blurb about his book from amazon.com:

Even with the recent changes in its makeup, most people think the Supreme Court is roughly balanced between left and right. This is a myth. In fact the justices once considered right-wing are now the Court's moderates; those who were once centrists are now the Court's "liberals"; and the liberal element, once represented by Thurgood Marshall and William Brennan, has all but disappeared.

Many people also think that judicial activism is the province of liberals. This is also a myth; since William Rehnquist was confirmed as Chief Justice in 1986, the Supreme Court has struck down decisions of Congress more than thirty times-an unprecedented record of judicial activism. Some conservatives want to return to the eighteenth-century Constitution or to restore "the Constitution in Exile," by which they mean the Constitution as it existed before the administration of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

In Radicals in Robes, Cass R. Sunstein explains what this constitutional vision would mean. It would endanger environmental regulations, campaign finance laws, and the right to privacy. It would threaten the Federal Communications Commission, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Environmental Protection Agency, and many other federal agencies. It might well allow states to establish official religions. It would impose sharp new limits on Congress's authority to protect rights.

Radicals in Robes pulls away the veil of rhetoric from a dangerous and radical movement and issues a strong and passionate warning about what some extremists really intend. One of the most respected legal theorists in the country, Sunstein here issues a warning of compelling concern to us all.


One may listen to the radio interview HERE OR, if that gets moved, just got to npr.org and look for the archive of 7 Sept, 2005 for the program "Fresh Air." The interview was titled: "Legal Scholar Cass Sunstein on the Supreme Court's Future." It is well-worth a listen, imo.

I feel we either have to have a STRONG vote against all of them this next election OR revolution.(Though, I have always said in any situation, it doesn't have to be "either/or" there's always a third solution, I just don't see it, right now.) It's not just the USA's future, it is that of the whole world, in some ways, that is at stake.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Does it ever STOP??!!!
From: Paul Burke
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 06:40 AM

(these appointments are for life).

In NikkTori Corpolation, job is for rife. Tabuki-san, job now finish...


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