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BS: I WANT THIS CAR!

frogprince 08 Oct 05 - 11:16 PM
Bill D 08 Oct 05 - 10:31 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 11:16 PM

The sum total of what I can find about it is, it was bodied by a French builder, Franay, (who I never heard of before) and built of mahogany.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 10:31 PM

yum! That am a FINE automobile! I can't find any info on what kind of wood that is, but I'll take one!


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 01:44 PM

Looks good to me!


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 01:40 PM

Bill D., whuttabout this one ? I had never heard of it, or any Duesenberg with similar wood body, until I stumbled on it today. This hasta go right on my short list of prettiest wheels imaginable.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Sep 05 - 03:26 PM

Then again, sometimes I wish I could afford to customize something unique in real life...


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 12:33 AM

Ye'll take the Cisitalia and be happy wif it--or else.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Peace
Date: 22 Sep 05 - 12:23 AM

. . . but in red.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 03:40 PM

Another gem, it's true, Spaw; but somehow I've had just a little more weakness for the coupe


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 11:42 PM

Although cars are in museums for a variety of reasons, only one, a permanent exhibit at the Museum of Modern Art, is shown strictly for it's artistic value....a tribute to the "designer as artist." And sorry, but it came along many years after 1940......1963 to be precise. I certainly agree myself for there is an elegance, a sensuousness, and a grace in this car that is virtually matchless before or since.

Her Grace, the lovely E-Type

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 10:05 PM

Buy two, they're small.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 09:35 PM

Yeah, frogster, one heck of a nice car... Hard to believe that was some 50 years ago... Still looks good to me....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 09:01 PM

Bobert mentioned This one already. I think this was the first car I fell in love with as a kid, just from the ads, long before I saw a real one.

One of my goofiest pipe dreams, (after winning at least 80 million in the lottery) is to find one of these, tired but with a decent restorable body, and have it put together with the drive train and suspension of a Lexus 430 LS. All the looks, and all the modern smooth and reliability...


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 07:45 PM

anything on this page Cord, Auburn, Duesenberg...I'm not greedy..*grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 07:42 PM

oh, my! frogprince....yes, a Bugatti Royale would hold me just fine until I get my Hispano-Suiza! Even a nice Cord would be tolerable.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 07:30 PM

Looks rather as if some careless giant had trodden on it and squashed it flat. A multi-coloured cowpat of a car...

In think anybody who'd spend that kind of money on a car would deserve to be stuck riding around in something looking like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: hesperis
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 05:40 PM

I want the bionic mercedes... *sigh*


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 05:09 PM

This thread is about seething lust, not practicallity

I think that you've nailed the US psyche on the head, with that. A bit scary for the rest of us...


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 20 Sep 05 - 02:50 PM

Now this one I might kill for.
Some folks got no soul. This thread is about seething lust, not practicallity. Knocking Bill's desire for that car because it would burn gas and require maintenance is like saying it would be better to date Paris Hilton instead of Dianne Rigg, because to keep Ms. Rigg you would have to go to the effort to show some style and think of intelligent things to say.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Lady Hillary
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 11:10 AM

One man's meat is another man's poison,
My favorite car is the Avions Voisin.    Ogden Nash, I believe


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 07:41 AM

Real Woodies
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 04:55 AM

There are some British cars that incorporated wood into the vehicle - the most famous being the half timbered Morris Minor Traveller.

My grandfather had a Morris Minor van, and I've always wanted to own one myself....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 04:25 PM

My own photograph of a 1937 Bugatti Atlante, taken at the Meadowbrook Concours de Elegance.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 09:57 AM

Heck, what's wrong with wood... It's a wonderful thing to build stuff with other than building houses...

Remember the "Spruce Goose" that Howard Hughes not only built but flew???

But back to the woodie fir just a second... Back in my college days I had a very beat up Karmann Ghia that I bought fir about $100... It ran but had no bumbers but still had the brackets so I took a 2X6 and cut it down to the right size, drilled holes to line up with the holes in the brackets and bolted the sucker on...

Well, this poor ol' Ghia had cracked tail lenses and various electrical things either workin...or not...

I rememeber coming back from Christmas break with everything but the kitchen sink tied on top of it and stuffed in it, including my wife, a dog and of course, a guitar...

Well, I got stopped on I-95 by a State Trooper jsut a few miles north of Richmond, Va and he gave the car a good look over... This was way back before the days of "Stay-in-your-car-Sir" state trooperin' so I was outside the car with the trooper while he took me for a tour around the car pointing out all the defective equipement and we ended up at the right rear of t6he poor ol' Ghia and he ended his bill of particulars by looking down at the wood bumber and saying, "And further more, your bumper is on fire...."

Well, sho uff the hot exhaust had the bumper smolderin'... There we're no flame but, yeah a little redish glow and a little smoke...

So, Iz thinkin' maybe jail time, 'er havin' my car, dog, wife and guitar hauled off to the impound lot and wonderin' how I'd get by without my guitar... But is was 'right after Christmas and the trooper told me to follow him and he led me to the nearest service station where he told me to leave the car and have it towed to a repair facility....

And he din't write me a single ticket...

Right after he left the guy at the service staion told me that that particular trooper was the hardest ass troopper in Henrico County and would write his own mother...

Guess he was just trying to aviod the writer's cramps that day...

Well, all Bobert stories do have happy endings so here's the happy ending to this one.... After it got dark that night I snuck into the back lot of that service sation witha couple buddies and we quietly pushed the Ghia down the road far 'nuff to ctrank it up and not be heard and I drove it home... Heck with tow trucks...

The following day, I bough a quart of porch and deck enamal and repainted it so if that trooper saw it again he wouldn't recognize unless he looked closely to see if the rear bumper was on fire...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 02:55 AM

The Marcos was made out of plywood.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Metchosin
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 12:59 PM

Don, the Smart gets about 60 MPG using a turbo diesel. Its selling like hotcakes up here and the wife of a friend of ours got one last year and they liked it so much he now has one as well.

Only complaint I have heard so far is the wait for them and the price. They range from $16,700 CDN to $23,000. These little fellows are not hybrids, so no large battery required.

I noticed that I could hear a tell tale diesel rattle on startup when I was parked at the the gas station behind one the other day. I also noticed that his bill for his fuel was $13.00 while mine was over $50 for my Subaru.

Now if only they would make a truck version so I could get both the dogs and a bale of hay on board.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: pdq
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 11:15 AM

Sure you aren't thinking of "Woodie" Guthrie?


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 11:02 AM

yep...wood! I'd happily polish it...but I suspect envious people petting and stroking it would do most of the work!...

Certain types of wood have been used for bodies at various times. With the right finish, they don't take an extreme amount of care. Didn't Gene Autry have a wood station wagon for when he wasn't chasing bad guys on a horse?


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 09:54 AM

Hey I have that model. It cost over $200 and is 1/12th scale.
I should put it together.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: C-flat
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 02:31 AM

Hey Bill D!
Beautiful car but, wood? I can just imagine you out on your drive every Sunday morning with a can of furniture polish and a duster!!

C-flat.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:29 PM

keep your Bugattis and such..this is the car I have wanted for 45 years.

More about it here

*drool*..(but not on the finish, please)

(old Etore Bugatti is also supposed to have told someone who complained that Bugattis were hard to start in cold weather.."Anyone who can afford one of my cars can afford a heated garage!"


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:24 PM

Etorre would have loved my Bugatti; it had no brakes whatever; just came to the end of the track and hit the retaining wall.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:16 PM

Yeah, frog-ster, like I said, if you can get 'nuff breakin' fir it, it's a killer road course car...

Reminds me of back in '64 and my dad was workin' fir Ford Motor Comapnay and I was like 17 years old and the AC Cobra came out and somehow I convinced him that as a promotional thing it would be real cool to take anCobra 'round the mid Atlantic drag strips and go haed to head with the local baddest Corvette...

And, of course, I figgured that I'd be the perfect driver...

Well, it weren't no competeion... We'd roll into one darg strip after another and it would usually be a best outta 5 aginst the local baddest "Vette...

Problem fir ther Vette's is that even the baddest of them would be half a seconf slower in the quarter than the Cobra...

I never lost to a Vette... Never...

Seems like this VeeDub has the same qualities....

Well, all things even out and I had a mini-stock Karmann Ghia back 'round 1980 an' we'd do a 10 lapper between main feature and then came the VeeDubb Rabbits with front wheel drive... Tore us up big time... On some Friday nights the front wheel drive Rabbits would lap the rst of us in the 10 laps... Purdy emarrassin'...

Stroker Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: pdq
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:13 PM

No Mopars on your list, Bobert? Shame on you!!

I do agree with the Studebaker Avanti. Way ahead of its time. Still looks fresh today.

If you do well with all that real estate investing, you can buy an Avanti brand new! They are still made in small quantities, I believe in Canada.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:56 PM

Toyota Prius. Genuine 50 mpg.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:54 PM

this 2004 Bugatti raced undefeated in a field of about 40 cars


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:49 PM

Now that, Metchosin, is an intelligent car! A month or so ago, on Andy Rooney's commentary on 60 Minutes, he drove something like that. Looking for a parking place downtown, he couldn't find one, so he just backed in--perpendicular to the curb--between two parked SUVs. Fit just fine.

I think he said it was a hybrid. It got about 120 miles on a pint of gas and two AA batteries.

In 1971-72, I worked at the AAA office in Seattle, broadcasting morning and evening rush hour traffic reports over KIRO radio. My boss, traffic safety director Ayres Johnson, commented once, "Considering the number of automobiles on America's streets and highways, have you ever figured out how many thousands of miles of roadway could be freed up if they built automobiles an average of two feet shorter?" I can't recall now the figure that he mentioned, but it was on helluva lot of concrete!

I've got a couple of friends with Priuses. They love 'em!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Metchosin
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:28 PM

Ooops

THIS ONE


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:22 PM

Come on, Mack, this ain't a go-to-church-in car... This is an animal... No fir serious street drivin'... And the looks is good...

Gotta disagree about no cool designs since the 40's...

55 T-Bird... 54 Vette... 55 Lincoln Mark... 54 Studie Golden Hawk... 56 Crown Vic...64 Studie Avantie... AC Bristol/Cobra... 63 split window Vette... 63 Ford fastback...63 Chevy Imapla SS... Just to name a few...

I heard o' folks stuck in the 60's... But stuck in the 40's????

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Metchosin
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:20 PM

I want THIS ONE!


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: mack/misophist
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:03 PM

But it's not all that good looking, is it. There hasn't been a really cool automotive design since 1940 or so. When you drive a truly fine car, you don't have to worry about how fast it goes. The people in front of you will fall back to look at the car.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: dianavan
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 08:47 PM

How many miles to the gallon?


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 08:14 PM

Well, when I first saw this thread I figured it was one of them VW kit cars... Yeah, there were thousands of fibre glass Bugatti repica car kits sold in the 70's and 80's which fir on a standard Type I VW chassis... They weren't as popular as the MG-TD kits but there were a lot of them sold anyway... It was a real junker of a kit and the car had so much front air drag that at 40 mph it would badly over steer...

...but fast forward to BB's dream car...

This is one hot lookin' car... With the short wheel base, and low profile, 1001 horsepower, I'm sure this car will get a lot of attention... The thing I like about it is that it will mostly likely be a 6 second 1/4 miler as well as danged fast road race car... Gonna need some big wheels (tall, like 16's) to stuff 'nuff 4 wheel discs in 'um to slow it down fir the turns... That gonna be a problem...

The 427 Cobra would do 0-100 and back down to zero in like 12 seconds... This car should be in the 10 second range...

Yeah, think I have finally found something on this green earth that I agree withh bb on...

Nice ride...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 06:46 PM

What does it do to the gallon? As the ice melts and the earth heats the human race shows its hopeless stupidity.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 06:01 PM

The article mentions Bugatti production up to 1955. There was no real production after about 1939, just prototypes for attempted revivals.
The heck with this "folkswagon"; I want a REAL Bugatti;
    like THIS
    or THIS


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 05:58 PM

What a WOMBAT....


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Little Robyn
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 05:30 PM

No, I don't want that one - there's a VW Cabriolet somewhere around here that I fancy - it's metallic shocking pink!
But it must be a lemon because it's only $3,750 NZ$!
I still can't afford it but I can dream!
Robyn


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 05:28 PM

I heard that Ettore never put a rear view mirror in any car he made.


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 05:08 PM

The makers of "The Bug" are now using the Bugatti name? Old Ettore must be spinning (at about 7,000 rpm) in his grave!

There's the story about the buy who paid about $50,000 for a Bugatti back when that was about 20 years' salary for the average person. At the time, Ettore Bugatti's cars were custom-made on order. They could also get up to around 180 mph without breaking into a sweat.    When the guy's car was delivered, he found the brakes incredibly hard to operate. He took it to his local mechanic to find out what was wrong with it and learned that there was nothing wrong with it. But it didn't have hydraulic brakes, it had the old-fashioned cable operated kind. When the guy went to Bugatti and complained about it, Ettore stared down his ample nose at the guy and said, "I make-a da cars-a to go, not-a to stop!"

I recall reading that about fifty years ago in a copy of either Car and Driver or Motor Trend.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 04:51 PM

Ugly little beast though init?;-)

Try a Bentley Continental GT instead. Just look it up on Google and save yourself a packet and a bit of street cred:-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: I WANT THIS CAR!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 04:41 PM

But where do you put your shopping?

LTS


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