BS: louis farrakhan

Subject: BS: louis farrakhan
From: tarheel
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 06:30 PM

according to newsmax.com,louis farrakhan is preching to his followers that:

"Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan is telling his followers that the levees in New Orleans may have been deliberately "blown up" to kill the city's black population."

i'm sorry folks,but to me that's just pure old racism at it's worse!
will we see the main stream media crucify brother farrakhan over these false allegations?
don't hold your breath!

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:30 PM

Farrakhan is capable of as much bias and suspicion as any other extremist. On the other hand, sometimes suspicions are borne out. I don't think so in this case, but rumors abound.

Incidentally, how much crucifying did you participate in when P. Robertson did his latest thing?

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:35 PM

That is a good point, Tarheel - very difficult to find any report of Farrahkans' diatribe in the print media.

And what does Robertson have to do with this. Just an another example of the left trying to minimize the actions of one of their own. (Farrahkan)

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:16 PM

What does Louis Farrahkan have to do with the normal spectrum of left-to-right in American politics? He isn't a right-winger, so the left should have to claim him as one of their own? If he was white, he would probably be in the Klan.

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: pdq
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:37 PM

If Louis Farrakhan were White, he would probably be in prison.

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:46 PM

Yeah, as a progressive, Louis Farrakan does ****not**** speak fir the progressive movement so...

...but a sock in it, tarheel...

Now if Howard Dean says that that Bush blew up the levee's then we'll have a thread...

Must be real borin' down in Carolina fir you to start such a crapola thread...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 10:46 PM

"Just an another example of the left trying to minimize the actions of one of their own. (Farrahkan)" Guest

Wow. Another case of having the power and courage of one's convictions. You must be the same Guest who thinks that Osama is one of the Liberal's heroes too. Just when do you plan to grow up?

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: GUEST,Slim Eric
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 04:25 AM

When you get right to the bones of it all, who knows what? Who did what? Who is responsible for it? Who can we blame for it? In my book it says try to select the reality and reject the fantasy. Difficult to do when the news can be so misleading or misled! What is real is that many families have suffered loss! That big word loss! and what will be done to help those who have survived or barely survived? As with all other disasters we will all wait and see in our comfortable lives.

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 09:59 AM

Well, we were told (Reuters, AP) that certain levees were blown up on purpose to "LET WATER OUT".

What that probably means is that certain areas would benefit while other areas would flood.

A decision to save the higher property values was made, but by whom?

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 11:34 AM

Good speculation, Donuel.

Well, we were told (Reuters, AP) that certain levees were blown up on purpose to "LET WATER OUT".

So we have something that has been reliably reported. It's true.

What that probably means is that certain areas would benefit while other areas would flood.

So you don't know what it actually means, do you?

A decision to save the higher property values was made, but by whom?

How do you know this? The initial fact is related to, but does not prove your statement in any way.

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Sep 05 - 11:46 AM

Breaching levees to reduce water pressure is an accepted method of dealing with a flood. When this is done by the Corps of Engineers or other reputable outfit, the hole is made so that the water will flow onto fields or some other area that doesn't damage houses or people. When the levees are are breached by others -- call them criminals, because that's what they are -- no such care is taken.

Which was one reason why, back when I walked the levees during floodtime, more than a few people carried guns. (Another reason was snakes -- ever see a six-foot water moccasin? I have, far too up close and personal. Snakes share the levees with people and can get right testy when they think they're being attacked.)

I haven't heard that levees around New Orleans (or anywhere else) were blown. Where and when was this done?

As for Farrakhan...well...I wouldn't exactly call him a mainstream liberal, progressive, or anything else other than a rabble rouser.

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 12:17 AM

Hi, Rapaire - "blowing" is a word with a lot of "spin" attached to it. I do believe I saw in more than one place that there were plans to breach some levees to let water out. It's often cheaper and faster than pumping it. Here in the Sacramento area, we have lots of land that is sometimes lower than the level of the Sacramento River. if the river overflows the levees, the water is trapped behind the levee after the river recedes, and levees are often breached to drain the flooded land.

Yes, sometimes breaching a levee does flood a dry area and can affect people who have been dry - but that's a decision that has to be made on a case-by-case basis.

The Bush Administration has plenty of real failures to answer for in this disaster. It only weakens the cause of the opposition if they make issues out of false information. In all possibility, most levee breaching in Louisiana will be done fairly, and only after serious consideration.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: robomatic
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 01:17 PM

While I lump Farrakhan with the worst of the rabble rousing scum that this nation has produced of late (Robertson and Falwell are right down there with 'im, by the way), if you've read about the "The Great Flood" Mississippi 1927, such disgusting behavior did occur as New Orleans bigshots opened levees downriver to provide a flood relief margin to the city. According to the author of the book, who was broadcast on NPR, this resulted in many black and white folk stranded on top of levees. The authorites (not the feds, who didn't take part in either the levee breaking or paying for the relief effort), allowed whites to be rescued, but not blacks, for fear that the tenant farmers would never come back, so it was an act of 'labor control'.

Anyhow, there is in fact historical precedent, but in the case of Farrakhan, it is being manipulated as histerical precedent.

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Peace
Date: 18 Sep 05 - 01:31 PM

Louis Eugene Walcott is in his seventies and he never was wrapped too tight. Calling him liberal is like calling a sheep a dog. You can do it, but it don't make the sheep bark and it don't make that guy liberal.

Subject: RE: BS: louis farrakhan
From: Pied Piper
Date: 19 Sep 05 - 06:53 AM

Farrakhan is definitely a racist, he believes in the existence of a black race, which should not be involved with a white race.
So yet again I have to point out that all the people native to sub-Saharan Africa have the black skin adaptation, yet there is more genetic variability in these people than in everybody else put together.
This should not come as a surprise as there have been modern humans in Africa longer than anywhere else.

PP