BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:11 AM

From a friend in California who got it from a friend in Switzerland who got it from . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: GUEST,Doobya
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:08 AM

Don't make me blow it out my ears too!!

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: number 6
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:07 AM

That is very good Peace !!

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: John Hardly
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:58 AM

oh wow, man.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:57 AM

"just tweak him with your mouse"--such an understatement of what many would like to do to this sociopath!

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:54 AM

Seems I forgot the 'r' in friend. OOPS.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:50 AM

For anyone who does do illegal substances. Our fiend, George.

If he gets hung up, just tweak him with your mouse.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: GUEST,The Cat in the Hat
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:15 AM

I love to smoke it in a house
I love to smoke it with a mouse
I love to smoke it in the rain
I LOVE my bong - it boings my brain!

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 09:00 AM

Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if my brother's cat had taken a whiff or two...

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 07:35 AM

And then again, lots of animals seem to enjoy nibbling on marijuana plants - deer, rabbits, mice, even the odd (very odd) cat.

Ingesting pot can make one a bit odd though, according to this New Scientist article.

Some studies have suggested long-term cannabis use can increase your risk of developing schizophrenia (New Scientist, 26 March, p 44). Others have linked the drug to milder "schizotypal traits" that include odd, magical beliefs and social paranoia...

The results showed that the majority of people who'd recently used cannabis had schizotypal symptoms before using the drug (Psychiatry Research, vol 134, p 37). Schiffman admits that the limited study "leaves far more questions than answers" - for instance, it gives no clues as to why people with such traits might be attracted to cannabis.

INteresting that scientists have found that highly creative people also show "schizotypal traits". (eccentric quirky behaviour)

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 07:22 AM

You may be onto something there, LH. I doubt any animal would willingly ingest any kind of smoke.

Then again, I doubt any animal plays the guitar either.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:41 PM

I think you missed my point, Number 6. ;-) I've never seen anyone offer a cat a toke. Or anything else like that. But if they did...the cat would refuse. Cat's ain't stupid.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 06:59 PM

I agree with that. I saw a cat that some asshole gave LSD to. I asked if I could put it down. The owner refused. Thought it was a joke.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: number 6
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 06:58 PM

"They can't be bribed or persuaded to." ... anyone who enduces an animal with a mind altering substance ... should be charged with with undue cruelty to animals.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 06:37 PM

THC suppositories, for the discerning cat.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 06:35 PM

I have lived with a number of un-altered male cats, and none of them presented any real problems, except for one who was an arrogant bastard who refused to obey "the rules" (he peed on things). He eventually moved on. The others were all fine. Perfect gentlemen. We did have one male Siamese who used to beat the shit out of any dog or cat that ventured onto our property, but he was fine with people. He died of a rare blood disease after about 6 years of wrecking havoc on various furred and feathered creatures which foolishly entered our yard. As for the female cats, yes, it is a good idea to "fix" them. No question about that.

Did our male cats father any progeny? Well, I'm sure they were eager to, but there weren't very many available females around most of the time. They'd all been "fixed". ;-)

No cat will smoke marijuana. Not upon ANY excuse. They can't be bribed or persuaded to. This proves that they are basically smarter than humans. (or more tuned in, anyway)

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: number 6
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 06:29 PM

"I probably will. I have never had a cat before."

That cat's probably never known a good human before ... is going to kick the crap out of me or is he going to get me some help?

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:52 PM

I probably will. I have never had a cat before. Can you train them to heel? Fetch? Do ya have to walk them?

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: gnu
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:50 PM

Take the poor bugger in lad. I'd do it fer you.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:40 PM

"Actually they should taste quite nice, even without the 'special ingredient'."

That's true. I had 'em without the peppercorns and they were just fine.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:37 PM

It snowed about 2" last night. Melting off as we speak.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:31 PM

Is it still snowing out yer way Peace and is it sticking around?

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: number 6
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 01:14 PM

If you have no intentions on keeping the cat, at least take it to the SPCA ... that's the least you can do Peace.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 01:14 PM

Alas, Little Hawk, I have been fixed. When the doctor fixed my cancer he fixed me at the same time. It seemed a reasonable exchange.

If you'd ever tried to live in a house with an unaltered cat, you wouldn't be asking that question.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: *daylia*
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 01:01 PM

Ever lived with a Siamese cat in heat, LH?

Or searched the neighbourhood for Sylvester for days on end, only to discover him half-dead at your door one morning, in desperate need of several hundred dollars worth of repairs at the vet (again)?

Have you ever had to take the box of mewling, starving newborn kittens you found in the ditch to the vet's or the Humane Society?

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 12:12 PM

Have you been fixed yet, Stilly? And how about you, Bruce? I personally think everyone should be taken to a vet and fixed as quickly as possible, right? Much better all around. Too many people anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:58 AM

I wish I could--even though I wouldn't. Haven't even had so much as a second-hand toke in about three decades.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:53 AM

But don't offer the cat any pot.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:52 AM

Offer to feed it. If it makes friends, take it to a vet and see if it's healthy. If it is, decide if it will live in a civil manner indoors in your apartment. All of my best pets have arrived as strays. Three out of the four in my yard and house now were originally stray. The fourth was a defacto stray--she came from the humane society, history unknown.

If it hasn't been fixed, have it fixed.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:52 AM

Any Chinese restaurants in town?

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:49 AM

Oh, yeah. Winter is coming and the cat looks like it's been abandoned and for sure it'll freeze to death (it doesn't look smart or agile enough to live out the winter here).

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:38 AM

I think it's cowardly to just drive it away and drop it somewhere else, so that ain't an option. (Pedant alert: I know I split the infinitive there.)

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:36 AM

Oh, yeah. I have a serious question for 'catters. I am not a cat lover, but neither am I a cat hater. That said, there is an old grey cat that has been meowing outside my friggin' window at all hours of the day/night--I live in a basement apartment, such as it is--and I have thus far considered

1) killing it
2) taking it to the SPCA where they will kill it
3) adopting it (because he/she/it looks to be about my age in cat years and somehow the poor old thing has made it to a ripe old age despite life's trials), except I can't stand cats

Y'all got any ideas?

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:30 AM

Filthy crap falling outta the sky.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:26 AM

Far out.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:25 AM

It is snowing.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: bobad
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:18 AM

Having flashbacks again are you?

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:04 AM

I just remembered again what I was gonna post on 14 Oct 05 - 01:59 PM.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:00 AM

Turns out hitting yourself in the head with a hammer has been erroneously thought to be harmful. The authorities who told us not to hit ourselves in the head with hammers were having us on. But it turns out the students I knew who were hitting themselves in the head with hammers where really really brilliant. One of 'ems been denominated for the Supremes.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 09:43 PM

Actually they should taste quite nice, even without the 'special ingredient'.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 09:38 PM

LH, a lot of my buddies discovered they loved their girlfriends a whole lot more while high on pot--or that they loved their buddies' girlfriends a whole lot more--and sometimes they discovered they had made love to someone's girlfriend a whole lot more.

Elmer

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 09:33 PM

ALICE B. TOKLAS BROWNIES (aka ALICE BE TOKIN' BROWNIES)

Alice B. Toklas included the following introduction and recipe for "Haschich Fudge" in her 1954 "Alice B. Toklas Cook Book":

"This is the food of Paradise.... it might provide an entertaining refreshment for a Ladies' Bridge Club or a chapter meeting of the DAR.... Euphoria and brilliant storms of laughter; ecstatic reveries and extensions of one's personality on several simultaneous planes are to be complacently expected. Almost anything Saint Theresa did, you can do better."
                
1 tsp. black peppercorns
1 whole nutmeg
4 sticks cinnamon
1 tsp. coriander
1 handful stone dates
1 handful dried figs
1 handful shelled almonds
1 handful peanuts
A bunch of cannabis sativa ("picked and dried as soon as it has gone to seed and while the plant is still green")
1 cup sugar
1 large pat of butter

Grind the pepper, nutmeg, cinnamon, and coriander in a mortar. Chop and mix the dates, figs, almonds, and peanuts. Grind the cannabis and mix it with the spices; dust this mixture over the fruits and nuts. Mix the sugar with the butter and knead this together with the fruits, nuts, spices, and cannabis. Eat with care - two pieces are quite sufficient.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM

Got that right, Daylia. I detested Dylan's voice for years, until I actually listened to what he was saying one day in 1969. From then on I loved his voice. That's the magic of love...it transforms everything.

I'd say, looking back, that most of my buddies loved pot more than they did their girlfriends! A question of priorities, right? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 09:14 PM

"Ya gotta watch out for the brownies."

Yep! Always selling them damn cookies!

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 07:52 PM

True to that, gnu.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: gnu
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 04:48 PM

Roaches? Chong in the second (?) movie.... priceless.

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: *daylia*
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 03:42 PM

I could only be amazed that anyone would actually want their mouth to taste as bad as that during and after indulging in their favorite pastime. Gaaahh! It's detestable

Well, LH, it's kinda like Dylans' voice. If you enjoy and value certain other attributes/characteristics of his songs, his voice gets much easier to put up with. And after years of overlooking it, you hardly notice it at all.

But if you don't like Dylan in any way shape or form, then that voice is TRULY obnoxious.

"The scientists also noticed that cannabinoids curbed depression and anxiety..."

WEll, I can sure vouch for that one! But on the other hand, cannabinoids raise the heart-rate, tiring the body and the mind unnecessarily. THat's why it tends to make people lazy and unmotivated. (ie It's a bright and beautiful Saturday morning and the grass needs cutting ... but .... hey, it's my day off. Maybe I'll just have me a little toke and sit here watching it grow instead ...)

And being injected with an artificial chemical 10X stronger than pot??? YIKES!!!! Bet those poor rats spent their short little lives staring mournfully at their exercise wheels, just dreamin of the rock-hard buff little ratty-buns they COULD have, but unable to rouse up enough oooommph to do diddley-squat about it ....

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Peace
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 03:21 PM

New York roaches were too fast to catch. And no one wanted to smoke dead ones. YUK!

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 03:08 PM

Very sensible comments there, Dianavan. I know several people who use pot to ease their anxiety, and it seems to help them. But I am a real subversive. I don't toke and I don't take any legal drugs either ('cept for the occasional aspirin). I also don't watch TV or listen to the radio. I think if the $ySStem became aware of all this I might be in real danger, being as subversive as I am. I mean, how the hell can they play their money and addiction game if people don't go along with it?

gnu - Well, I guess any poison doesn't hurt you much if you take it in small enough amounts, does it? You just gotta figure out how small an amount is safe, that's all. Life is always a compromise between one thing and another. On the few occasions when I smoked pot or tobacco (as an educational experiment) I could only be amazed that anyone would actually want their mouth to taste as bad as that during and after indulging in their favorite pastime. Gaaahh! It's detestable. (But not if you take it for granted, I guess...) For a real thrill, roll up a joint that is full of roaches from 15 previous joints. Rank!!!! Ugh. (But it will get you pretty flippin' high, eh?)

Subject: RE: BS: Mythbuster: Pot and brain health
From: gnu
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 02:24 PM

Smoke may be injested with very little harm through the use of modern technology. One does not need much smoke to get high. Like George said.... ya ain't gonna get any higher. Brownies are a bad way to go. Ya get overbuzzed easy (FUBAR). A pinch'll do ya in a bong.

Gosh... I am get "nostalgic". But, until the Canadian government recognizes it's own research (LeDain Commission and others since) I am at a loss. I guess I'll have another Bud.... not necessarily for the wiser.