BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration

Subject: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:17 AM

Bush came to my wife's workplace yesterday and outlined his plan for a pandemic bird flu response.

What you may not know is that Rumsfeld is to bird flu/la Roche and pandemics...the way that Cheney is to War/Halliburton and genocide.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld/

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:49 AM

He's got a plan. Seems okay, but I kinda doubt that all the politickin' and plannin' and stockpilin' in the world is going to stop ANY flu from going where it wants.

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: Barry Finn
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:26 PM

a rerun of last year's play,



A rerun of last year's play "Nothing Much To Do About Something". Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:50 PM

Trusting the plan to a potential carrier, hm.......

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:15 PM

"Talk of the Nation" on NPR today had some good discussion and info on the so-called coming pandemic. The 20 million Americans Bush wants vaccines for? It won't be ready for them until 2009.

I lost great-grandparents to the flu in 1918 and the 1930s. I find it hard to believe the hoopla that says we really don't have any better *weaponry* for fighting the flu now, as we did then.

The program DID say common sense, something which seems so lacking in today's society, can really help, i.e. wash your hands, DON'T go to work if you are sick, etc. They said those, at the moment, are the best defenses we have.

The fear-mongers need to be removed from office, asap.

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 07:22 PM

Well, if the Bush administration does anything that might momentariaslly look as if they gave a danged fro the workin' man, I say, time to keep an eye on yer wallet 'cause it yet another redistribution of income to those of wealth...

All part of their plan... Retirement fir the working class??? Hahahahah............ What a joke.............. Yeah, I'm real gald that my parents were part of a working class that got to retire and so did most of their piers but fir today's workin' class... Firget it, won't happen...

Yeah, the Donnie Rumseld's of the world have the upper hand and as long as they have dumbass Southern rednecks more intersted in how Stroker Ace is doin' in the point's run, they ain't got one thing to worry their evil heads about...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: Metchosin
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 09:03 PM

kat, assuming you were born before 1957, you yourself have already survived two pandemics, the Asian flu of 1957 and the Hong Kong flu of 1968/69.

From what I understand of the Spanish flu, a lot of those who died, did so because of a secondary infection of bacterial pneumonia.

The Asian flu of 1957 made more people sick than the 1918 pandemic, but the death toll was lower because of the availability of antibiotics to fight secondary infections.

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: GUEST,leftydee
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:58 PM

With $7 million being promised by W to fight this disease , I figure the breakdown ought to be about $5 million passed around to the already too wealthy and the remaining $2 million for red tape.

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: Peace
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:59 PM

Remember the immortal words from Lethal Weapon: "They f#ck you at the drive through!"

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: saulgoldie
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 03:34 PM

The question occurs to me: "How can someone who says he genuinely believes in 'intelligent design' responsibly deal with a looming crisis that is plainly due to evolution?"

No, I don't really expect an answer...

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 03:34 PM

More like a case of

"Ignore the man behind the curtain"

Just another attempt to distract us from all of the problems with the present administration.

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:09 PM

Good one, saul!

Mets, thanks, I was and I didn't know about those!

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Bird Flu & Bush administration
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:16 PM

There is a very real need for some help with creating a system to encourage better development and delivery of vaccines in general, and especially perhaps for "moving target" vaccines like those for flu.

I'm afraid promising to spend vast sums of money to stockpile a vaccine that might be developed "someday" and or to lay in supplies of "antiviral" sera with questionable usefulness is not too impressive a plan. Especially when it comes as another Federal mandate for which States must pay 75% of the cost.

Since quite a few of the states can't provide the funding, and a few more probably won't, it's unlikely that the plan is viable. It's just laying the groundwork for "it's not our fault" politics.

The Gates Foundation alone arguably has done more to encourage development and distribution of useful vaccines, with a paltry billion or so dollars, than is likely to result from this "plan."

John