BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: dianavan
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:17 AM

Scan it and erase the 'No' and just add 'Blues' or 'Guitar' or whatever. Smoking Blues or Smoking Guitar. If you like the pic, the editing is simple. Or you can erase the 'Smoking' and add 'neo-cons'. No neocons. Think something up. Don't let the sign stop you from using a photo of yourself that you actually like.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 10:06 AM

Donuel,

I kinda already promised to let Cluin do it then other folks chipped in wantin' to help so I been sayin' that it might be a collective effort since there's front and back cover art and then there's the innards, too...

I'm still waitin' for the mixed and mastered "master" to finalize which songs I'm goina use... I prolly need to get a decent pic, ou know thru one of them filter things that puts thicker and darker hair on my head...

KT emailed me a pic that she took of me at the Getaway mini-cincert that ain't half bad bit there's a big "No Smoking" sign behind me that kinda detracts from the piccure and, no, I don't want to name the CD "No Smoking"...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:50 AM

Bobert,
I've done half a dozen or so. I have examples for Blue note and a lot of political parodies.

My pay is requiring my real name be on the cover.
PM me with all required info, so that a graphic will be both attractive and meaningful.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: number 6
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:19 AM

Guest .... take a look at my post at 11/12 at 10:58.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,A
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:03 AM

Martin, don't slip downward.

The one thing, maybe two, I see wrong here is the denigrating of anothers style and ability with regard to music. I may be missing the point but from where I sit, that is what is going on here. How can anyone judge anothers' ability w/o hearing that person.

And 6, how can a 50 year old song (Martins') be used as a weapon or defense for that matter. That was a very popular song in its' time and there are many who enjoy that style today. The words were easy, simple, cutesy and enjoyed by many teens at high school proms across the country. It even suggested a 'higher power' when it wasn't a near crime to do that.

While a lot of my life was influenced by John Coltrane et.al., I listened to Dean Martin too. Again, maybe I am simply missing the point of all this.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 12:45 AM

blah, blah, blah bobert. Authentic country blues players, my ass. I'll bet one yells "suey!" while he's boning you. You and Robert Johnson.

I'm sure your tunes are:

Blues in A
Blues in E
Blues in A with a capo
Blues in A, except slower
Blues in E, even slower

Yawn. Wake me when you want some real entertainment.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 11:19 PM

Yeah, sIx, I can do that song... Might get a little Bobertizin' but there ain't a song I can't do... Oh, you want it to sound like "exactly" like the original??? Firget it. Let Martin "cover-boy" have it...

My stuff is the real deal... No copyin' here...

Too bad, Marty, that you don't want to do this little "rumble" 'cause after you hear me yer gonna wanta learn how to play the blues...

Yeah, I spent 35 years playin' yer dribble and then 'bout 10 years ago I got myself hooked up with some autrhentic country blues players and the rest is history... Once you find the best, you leave the rest....

I'm sure that you are adaqute fir the limited stuff you do but6 if you wake up one mornin' thinkin' that what you need is a good butt whup on stage, let me know...

I deliver...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: number 6
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:58 PM

I agree Martin ... he was a good singer ... and he didn't take himself seriously ... I actually have fond memories of him .... his humour and his singing.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:54 PM

Actually 6, it was Johnny Cash's version that made me remember the original. Dean Martin was for a long time an under-rated singer. Since his death, his free-spirited vituosity has found him some new popularity.

bobert, I think the blues suck and is boring, repiticious 3 chord music that variates little from song to song and from chord progression vaiance. Besides that, it's depressing. I have played it and it is one big yawn. I have no intention of lowering myself to playing with you or interest at all in any battle of the bands.

Like I said, your challange is amateurish, and puts you on a level of unprofessional musicianship that I learned a long time ago to stay away from. Why don't your go off and sing about why you have the blues because your baby left you because she can't stand how you can't satisfy her and never could.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:45 PM

No. Not on the Internet.

I have a 4 song CD demo I did in a studio about 6 months ago that I use for booking gigs as part of my press kit. I keep this CD guarded, as I had mentioned I do not do original songs and these 4 songs were written by others. I do not sell this CD as I am conscious of copyright law and use the recordings for strictly promotional reasons.

But thanks for your interest. I really could give a whore's outer labia what you think of my politics. As I have mentioned many times, Mudcat is basically for me a playground to fuck around in and I prefer to do so incognito. However, I will pit my seriousness about music and my passion and knowledge of it with just about anyone here.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: number 6
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:44 PM

Actually Jonny Cash's version is more appealing ... but I admit, I never heard of Dean Martin's version, but will certainly will check it out.

Come on Martin .. when it comes to Dean ya can't help but laff .... especially with this this album cover .... hey Bobert, ya can do something like this with yours!

   memories..after all that booze??

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:32 PM

Yer the one who didn't have the balls to show up with yer stuff in the battle of the folkies, Marty, not me... I was there and yer lucky you weren't 'er you'd have a bag over yer head right now...

And, BTW, just fir the record, the offer is still on the table... Only rules is that it is a public venue and not yer mama's kitchen...

It would be worth the drive to shut yer dumbass self up...

And, fir the record, Part B, what makes you think you have to be either balck or old to play blues??? That is one ignorant statement on yer part!!! You obviously know nuthin' about the history of the blues 'er you wouldn't make such an ignorant statement... No, it's beyond ignorant... It's downright bigoted!!!

Tell ya what, Marty. You are a prime example that a little learnin' is a dangerous thing and you continue to offer up additional evidence, as if anyone needed it...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: bobad
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:28 PM

Martin

Do you have a CD or mp3 download available where one can hear your playing ?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:15 PM

OK, morons, especially you dianavan and bobert:

I play bluegrass periodically with a group that does straight ahead bluegrass and something we call "swing-grass" and also at some jam sessions.


Lately I have been performing much more frequently by myself as a solo act in clubs and other decent venues.

Obviously your knowledge of folk music is extremely limited. The Dean Martin standard I do in my repertoire is "Memories Are Made of This" which written by folk performer Terry Gilkyson who backed Martin on the original 1956 hit with his folk group The Easy Riders. The song is about as 1950s folkie as it gets and I am sure much more knowledable musicologists than you two will agree. This is the only song by Dean Martin I do and quite frankly, it goes over quite well.

So laugh all you want. It is I who is doing the laughing at the amateurish types like yourself. Your not old and black, bobert and your music I am sure is about as phony as what you emulate to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: number 6
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 09:23 PM

No I haven't Bobert ... would certainly like to ... can introduce some of their stuff to the boys on our Monday nite bluegrass jam.

Amore ... can hear it now with a good fiddle intro ... the mandolin would just blend in fine with the 'Vita Bella' line .. all along that doghouse base keepin the back beat.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 05:24 PM

You haven't hear 'um, sIx...

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: number 6
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 02:37 PM

"It's Dean Martin and the Southsiders, a bluegrass band from Chicago."

... good one Bobert (LOL) I like that.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:54 PM

Hmmmmmm? Seems the story does seem to change...

THat wasn't Dean Martin, as in Jerry Lewis, Ebbie... It's Dean Martin and the Southsiders, a bluegrass band from Chicago... LOL

Awwwww, sorry, Marty.... You are a trip... Prolly never played a guitar in yer live but you sure can entertain.... Well, unless yer into that genital, biological, scatilogical stuff that we all hope you got outta yer system from yer month in detention hall...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 12:01 AM

hahhahah Well, if THAT isn't bluegrass I don't know what is!

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: number 6
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 11:52 PM

MG ... what's the Dean Martin standard you sing??

is it .. this

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: bobad
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 11:31 PM

Martin

The silence is deafening.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 06:43 PM

No, d, he also does Dean Martin with guitar... Oh, Shatner ain't gonna like this one bit...

But better yet, he does Dean Martin hootenanies... Hummmmm??? That ougtta be a real toe tapper...

Thanks, MG... You have indeed made my day!!!

Ahhhh, Dougie, id you says you were willin' to put up $5000??? Man, that's great up ya pal... Prolly doin' it fir a tax write-off but, hey, we thank you anyway...

Judith,

Well, maybe this could be a collaboration since I allreadt awarded Cluin with the cover and since Doyug is writting the check as we speck to sent to Cluin but, ahhhh, what we are dealin' with here is like no serious budget... What that means is the hours are long but, hey...

...the pay is lousy...

But there's always the inner stuff and linear notes and the "appreciations to's" and all that so, hey, I gotta an open mind...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: dianavan
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 05:20 PM

Martin

I thought you played bluegrass. I have searched Chicago's bluegrass venues and can't seem to find you. Now you say you play country and folk. Maybe you're just an all round musician who can play anything on guitar and banjo. Do you play solo or with a group?

I'd love to hear you engage an audience and see you draw them in.

Do you perform at weddings and bar mitzvahs, too?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: bobad
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 11:32 PM

Martin

Where can one sample your professionalism and artistry ?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 11:04 PM

bobert, my set list includes zero originals, as I have no intention of boring my audience with a lot of navel gazing folkie style pablum.

What I do play is a lot of country and a lot of folk, from standards written by Tom Paxton to Cowboy Jack Clement. From a standard such as Abilene to the San Francisco Bay Blues. From Rockabilly to a Dean Martin standard.

It's about engaging an audience and drawing them in. It's about hootenanies from the 1960s to WSM radio, the country music you grew up with.

Set lists change and set lists should constantly evolve. I do not sing lyrics like: "I got the old black man blues, because I am old and black."

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bard Judith
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 10:52 PM

So is this design contest still open?

Cluin's art is indeed gorgeous, so no denigration is intended, and if you've already picked him and are in hot-n-heavy negotiations, super - I'll just shimmy on back to the music threads.

But if you are still looking for a designer who can do the whole schmool - from the correct font choice, colouration, image, layout, lyrics, and CD image.... (bats lashes at Bobert and winks at Cluin in passing) please do consider another Canuck - moi.

I'll gladly email some examples of my cover designs if you care to provide a contact address, sir! And if you've got the art picked out but still could use a hand with the layout, I'm at your service as well.

Regards from the bard,
Judith

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 06:55 PM

First of all, who's this Webster feller??? Ain't that stuck up brat from Mrs. Mirchell's 6th grade class , Donnie Webster, is it??? Man, he thought he knowed evrythin' in the gol danged universe... Well, he din't know nuthin' that counted, like who to throw the ball to if he was lucky enuff fir it to fall into his mit... Little wiezel and after all these years that boy must still sneakin' 'round tellin' bad stuff on me as I keep hearin' his name crop up... Tell ya' what, if that Donnie Webster mess wid me again it's gonna be battle of the bands wid him next...

BTW, Martin, sho would be interestin' fir you to talk about yer music, that is if you actaully play anything but the radio... Like I'd be curious just to read yer set list from yer last gig???

And thankee, Ebbie... Martin knows not of what he speaks for he critcizes someone's music without ever actaullu hearin' it??? Go figure... Like a blind man doin' a review of a pen and exhibit...

bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: DougR
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 05:16 PM

Bobert: you didn't address my suggestion! Ten grand too rich? Mebbe $5,000 would suit you better. Better yet, I've seen your art work and it's damn good! Design your own.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 04:49 PM

Remember the source, folks! Bobert's playing, phrasing and interpretation are impeccable.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 04:48 PM

I think a nekkid Bobert, his guitar discretely positioned.

And since it's a blues album, he should be painted blue.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: number 6
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 04:03 PM

'If you play more than 2 chords, your showing off'

... Woody Guthrie said that

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 03:57 PM

Oh, Peace, I think we all know that Bobert has two different spelling systems, one conventional and one his very own, and that he chooses between them at will.

Kinda like "The Three Faces of Eve" don't you think?

Bobert: don't worry about the 3-chord blues songs. I do songs with only 2 chords or sometimes 1.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,A
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 02:57 PM

I am new here - was this a serious request for cover art?
I thought this was a non-music section.

Peace, why the outrage when the posting is done in an incorrect section and based on all the other 'stuff' I have seen in this area,
commentary would appear to be at the option of the poster. I'm not apologizing, just inquiring.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Peace
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 11:26 AM

leeneia,

I was going to ask that but didn't quite know how to broach the subject with my friend. He woulda driven Webster to drink. In fact, sometimes his spelling drives me to drink--for which I will remain eternally grateful (thank you, WC).

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 09:28 AM

Question about the CD cover, Bobert: are you going to do your own spelling?

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: KT
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 02:48 AM

Bobert, if you PM me your email address, I 'll send you a good picture.      

KT

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: frogprince
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 12:08 AM

Bobert, you're gonna hafta get someone other than Cluin to to it! He's never gonna do anything but link to bad album art for the rest of his life!

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: dianavan
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 11:55 PM

Well, Bobert, if that climbing hyacinth would have bloomed I could have taken a photo and sent it to you. It would have been real pretty and blue, too. I guess its just too cold in Vancouver. I think it needs that sultry, southern climate to flower.

Better yet, they could super-impose an image of you climbing up the stalk. Sort of like you're climbing a beanstalk to heaven. The background could be Jefferson's plantation.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 11:32 PM

Ouch!!!

You hear that Martin??? Seems that folks is payin' you not to play...

Get it yet???

Carnegie Hall???? Hmmmmmmm... There's drugs and there's, ahhhhh, gooder drugs...

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 11:09 PM

Martin Gibson is indulging in fantasies again. His gig "that paid quite well" was hiding under his bed in fear and trying to keep from peeing his pants.

All of his performances are in the Carnegie Hall of his imagination.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 10:30 PM

Yeah, that's exactly what you would have done if you had showed, MG... Like were'd ya' play... The local nursin' home??? Hey, I play 'um now and then myself but not fir nuthin' but the enjoyment of the residents...

Face it, MG, you ain't in yer element with real musicans... Maybe if ya' take the trainin' wheels off yer wind-up fake guitar, you'll get there but right now??? Nah....

'Bout everyone who was at the Getaway would have beat you in the Battle of the Bands... No, make that everyone...

Opps... Hey, the camp staff don't count...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 10:13 PM

Not true, gnu or bobert. I told you already that I had a gig that night of my own that paid quite well, and quite frankly, bobert is small potatoes, and I hate playing the blues anyway.

So to paraphrase your own words, fuck off and die.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 08:48 PM

Ah. NOW I see why I am never hired to do covers! In my opinion, the closer up photo of you, Bobert, is a fine fit for a CD cover, along with maybe a banner above saying something like 'Listen to the Bluesman'.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Peace
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 08:41 PM

Thank you. Found this on a site. Looks pretty cool. I'll give it a try. Vitamin E

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 08:30 PM

Vitamin E, Bruce.... Lot's o' Vitamin E....

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Peace
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 08:24 PM

"'cause of them flashy things goin' off"

Keriste--I thought that was age catchin' up with me, like hot flashes or somethin'.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 08:22 PM

But, gnu, he made the right decission 'cause anyone who attended my mini-concert will tell ya' that had he shown up, he would have got embarassed... Me an' my Tumbleweed homies sould have beat up on the boy in a bad way...

No brag just fact...


Ahhhh, Ebbie, I din't see but tweo pics of me and niethjer lo9oks like CD cover stuff... Anyone get any piccures with my hair lookin; fuller and darker??? Jus' funnin'...

But really, neither of them two does much fir me fir a cover... Any others floatin' 'round? I know there were alot of folks taking piccures 'cause of them flashy things goin' off... Lot more than two, fir sure...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: gnu
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 06:14 PM

Wow Cluin!!!! WOW!!!

BTW... let me take this opportunity to address whassisname. And, how appropriate on this thread. T'was not long ago that Bobert challenged this insignificant piece of crap to a musical duel and he ran away like a frightened child. He seems to have girded himself with a coat of mail for his return to revel in his own filth at the expense of all who are mannered. Roll in your own shit and die... coward.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 05:54 PM

I'd second Ebbie's idea. There were some cracking photos of you taken at the Getaway.

Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's CD Cover Design Contest
From: DougR
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 05:28 PM

I've got an idea, Bobert, why don't you put up say $10,000 as a prize? You probably would get more entries in your design contest than you can shake a stick at!

DougR