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Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations

The Shambles 25 Nov 05 - 01:23 PM
Ebbie 25 Nov 05 - 01:48 PM
Skipjack K8 25 Nov 05 - 02:52 PM
gnu 25 Nov 05 - 02:56 PM
GUEST 25 Nov 05 - 04:19 PM
The Shambles 25 Nov 05 - 04:23 PM
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Ebbie 25 Nov 05 - 05:17 PM
GUEST,Sleepless Dad 25 Nov 05 - 05:18 PM
The Shambles 25 Nov 05 - 05:25 PM
Once Famous 25 Nov 05 - 05:32 PM
Ebbie 25 Nov 05 - 05:46 PM
The Shambles 25 Nov 05 - 05:54 PM
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Ebbie 25 Nov 05 - 06:06 PM
The Shambles 25 Nov 05 - 06:20 PM
Ebbie 25 Nov 05 - 07:49 PM
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The Shambles 26 Nov 05 - 06:27 AM
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Cluin 26 Nov 05 - 08:41 PM
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The Shambles 27 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM
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artbrooks 27 Nov 05 - 09:26 AM
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The Shambles 02 Dec 05 - 07:43 PM
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The Shambles 02 Dec 05 - 07:56 PM
Jeri 02 Dec 05 - 08:14 PM
BaldEagle2 02 Dec 05 - 08:48 PM
The Shambles 03 Dec 05 - 02:31 AM
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Peace 20 Dec 05 - 11:58 AM
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John MacKenzie 20 Dec 05 - 12:39 PM
GUEST,jOhn 21 Dec 05 - 06:31 AM
Epona 21 Dec 05 - 09:29 AM
The Shambles 22 Dec 05 - 01:31 PM
John MacKenzie 22 Dec 05 - 02:06 PM
GUEST,Martin Gibson 22 Dec 05 - 03:57 PM
Peace 22 Dec 05 - 04:00 PM
GUEST,Martin gibson 22 Dec 05 - 04:12 PM
Peace 22 Dec 05 - 04:18 PM
GUEST,Martin gibson 22 Dec 05 - 04:24 PM
bobad 22 Dec 05 - 04:30 PM
GUEST,Martin gibson 22 Dec 05 - 05:51 PM
GUEST 22 Dec 05 - 07:17 PM
GUEST,Mr Masculinity 22 Dec 05 - 08:14 PM
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Subject: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 01:23 PM

As the following does not appear to judged as qualifying for inclusion as a 'collectible, insightful, pithy, especially well-turned, humorous or enlightening bon mot by another Mudcatter' - perhaps it will qualify for inclusion a thread with this title? Along with other examples of less than noteworthy postings?

Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

Shambles you are a :-
Self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive.
No need to reply.
G.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 01:48 PM

What does 'noteworthy' mean to you, Roger? It seems to me that it is something that is worthy of beng noted. Which is just what you did with Giok's post.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 02:52 PM

Shocking grammar and spelling, true.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: gnu
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 02:56 PM

I am shocked!! This is a shambles!!!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 04:19 PM

.....it goes without saying.....


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 04:23 PM

What every the word 'noteworthy' may mean to me - does not appear to matter. For it is not a matter for my judgement but of some anonymous fellow poster who has also judged that unlike the other thread fo 'More Noteworthy Mudcat Ouotations - this one is relegated to the B/S.

Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 05:15 AM

Does this qualify for a 'collectible, insightful, pithy, especially well-turned, humorous or enlightening bon mot by another Mudcatter?


Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

Shambles you are a :-
Self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive.
No need to reply.
G.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Moved from other non-Shambles-centric thread. --JC


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 04:34 PM

If anyone is interested - all this needless silliness (and two new threads) has been caused by the relegation the B/S - imposed closure (and subsequent re-opening of the following thread.

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=68361&messages=175


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:17 PM

It should occur to each of us that sometimes things are not "caused" out of blue skies by others' actions but rather in response to our own bulldoggedness not to mention, bullheadedness.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Sleepless Dad
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:18 PM

Any chance we can get the clones to retitle this thread "Shambles self-absorbed anti-Mudcat Permathread"?

At least the title would be accurate.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:25 PM

My dear and fair minded Ebbie - I am sure that if I were to describe you as a self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive - that you would of course simply accept the fault was all yours and such a judgement was perfectly acceptable towards someone you have never actually met?

The description may be a very accuarate one but perhaps this is hardly the point?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:32 PM

How about, [bleep] (for gratuitous vulgarity)"fuck off, douchebag?"


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:46 PM

LOL Roger, if someone were to describe me as "a self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive" I'd be out of here like a shot! That is, if I respected the opinion of the person who thought that of me.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:54 PM

Respectfully Ebbie I rather suspect that you would in fact be asking for the services of those who have volunteered to protect you from such abusive personal attacks.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: bobad
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 06:03 PM

Too much alliteration
Makes a fella mean


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 06:06 PM

Actually, I would not, Roger. Someone's opinion of me is not an abuse of me- I can try to change his opinion if it is important to me- for instance, if someone really believes that I am a liar based on what I have said here, but if someone, as is more likely, calls me a windbag and uninformed, out of my depth, unable to admit I am wrong, unable to just let it go- and if I keep going without acknowledgment or an effort to change, follows up his or her opinion with stronger and more vituperation, that is still only an opinion. It can hurt my feelings but it cannot hurt me. And I would hope that at some point I will be asking myself what I have done or said that gave someone that idea of me.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 06:20 PM

Ebbie I rather agree with that - but the whole policy of the imposed censorship that is now inflicted upon is based upon it protecting posters like you and I from abusive personal attacks.

If you think that such posts are acceptable or there is no need for this imposition to protect us from abusive personal attacks - why have you not said so before? For it now sounds as if you are rather in agreement with me?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 07:49 PM

Ah but, Roger, I can decide something for myself without feeling the need to impose my views on others.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 06:10 AM

"Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 04:34 PM

If anyone is interested - all this needless silliness
(and two new threads) has been caused by the relegation the B/S - imposed closure (and subsequent re-opening of the following thread.

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=68361&messages=175"



Needless silliness, mmmm. Who started this thread?

G


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 06:27 AM

Who closed the first one?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 06:30 AM

Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 03:56 AM

Roger once again you use this thread wrongly in my opinion, it is for sometimes wise, and some times funny 'quotable quotes' which are thought worthy of perpetuation by people drawing fellow Mudcatters attention to them, and hopefully they will share the posters appreciation of the quote.
IT IS NOT a vehicle for you to pursue your paranoid campaign against perceived slights and affronts to you and your deathless [sic] prose PLEASE Roger will you for fucks sake give it a rest or better still take your obsessions elsewhere, because everybody I speak to about it is as fed up with your tripe as I am.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 07:11 AM

Ah but, Roger, I can decide something for myself without feeling the need to impose my views on others.

*Smiles* - Ebbie are you saying seriously that I will not be able to provide many past quotes from you containing your views on what I should or not do? Perhaps you would like to provide us with one or two of them first - to save others the effort?

But the point is rather finally accepting that what others choose to post is out of anyone's control except theirs. That all this encouragement of posters who feel themselves qualified or have the need to post to only pass judgement upon what their fellow posters choose to say or do or to personally abuse them - is causing a bigger problem than letting posters like you decide for themselves.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 01:27 PM

Roger, I wasn' going to say anything further but you have caused me to speak again. No. You have not. I CHOOSE to speak again. Don't you see the difference? One cannot be "caused to say something. We can be given reason to do so, we can be encouraged to do so, we can be goaded into doing so- but the decision to do so remains with US.

Have you ever been at a youngsters' ball game of some sort where a parent keeps carping and harping - loudly - on how the coach is performing his job? Within a VERY short time ALL of the people around that parent are sick and tired of the PARENT.

The coach is the one designated to do the job. So, if you want to be the coach and not the parent, get your own job.

And that's what I have to say about that.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:31 PM

A picture worth a thousand words.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:34 PM

Nice ass, Peace.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:38 PM

LOL

Never been told that before. Thanks for makin' my day.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 05:22 PM

A little swaybacked, though. *G*


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 05:30 PM

Roger, bleep for gratuitous vulgarity, and I mean that sincerely.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 07:09 PM

well, gratuitous tediosity, anyway...(I HOPE there's such aword!!)


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 08:17 PM

Is there such a thing as Professional Victims Anonymous?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 08:37 PM

It seems to me rather a well crafted tirade, what with its alliteration, and its rhythmic qualities.

Clumsily punctuated, true - it should have rerad:

Shambles, you are a self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous, priggish, paranoid prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetitive.

Considered stylistically, it contrasts very well with the stuff that some people here seem to feel necessary to spew out when they get crossed. I think Shambles could well actually feel quite pleased to have elicited a denunciation like that.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Cluin
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 08:41 PM

You're a mean one, Mister Grinch!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 09:29 PM

LOL, Cluin!!

But that song was much too brief!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

How about a stylistic consideration of this one also - and choose again to totally miss the point?

Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 02:06 AM

Dear Roger,
As I understand it, most people don't want you cluttering up yet another thread with your anti-censorship campaign. Post what you want in this thread, and stay out of the other one.
Be happy that you're tolerated as much as you are.
Thank you.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:23 AM

Or perhaps this one too?

Subject: RE: BS: Censorship on Mudcat
From: catspaw49 - PM
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 11:25 PM

A dipshit is the offspring of a jerkwad and a fucknuts. It's in the fourth tier of profane vocabulary.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 05:14 AM

Is there such a organisation as the Constant Riders Under the Double Standard? For I see that many of the usual suspects are again gathered here and blindly and pedantically stumbling around under it for mutual support.

I fear the drive on our forum that has seen – what posters say – be overridden by who is saying it, has now reached a critical level. Those posters who are generally considered to be 'nice' can posts the most dangerous things and set the most negative examples and have these ideas supported. And can freely post abusive personal attacks - as long as they are directed at certain easy targets who are considered to deserve such treatment.

When those who are not now generally considered to be 'nice, can post requests for equal treatment and freedom of expression for all and have these attacked and be subjected themselves to abusive personal attacks. Even when they do not respond in kind to the many abusive personal attacks they are regulally subject to.

All of this when we have anonymous volunteer fellow posters who are supposed to be protecting all posters from this but when some of them also indulge in making these abusive personal attacks. These fellow posters are also supposed to protect all posters from racist posts.

Under this double standard - we have just recently seen an example of one the most racist and divisive threads ever started on our forum. Many contributors even commented that this thread was a 'good one'. I rather suspect that what they meant was that the person who started it was a 'nice' person so however uneasy they may have felt about some of what was being said – the 'nice' person saying this things should be supported. And that anyone who posted to disagree with what this 'nice' person was saying – must be truly 'nasty.

In some respect it did turn-out after a struggle to be – if not perhaps a good thread – but a better one. Mainly because of the sensible way that those who posted to disagree with the main points conducted themselves and made their arguments. This enabled the dangerous premise of the thread to be turned into a sensible discussion and the double standard to be at least questioned.

It's wise to question both your foe and your friend.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 05:18 AM

Racial No-nos


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 07:01 AM

No soldier shall die in vain, as long as there is perpetual war.

DH


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 09:16 AM

As for the un-named (we all know who you're talking about, Shambles... how disingenious) Mudcatter who started the thread on Racial No-No's, AZIZI exhibited several qualities you might emulate:

   1. When challenged about particular statements she did not:
       Endlessly ignore them with no response
       Insist that she never writes anything that isn't exactly
       the way it should have been worded
       Respond by cut and pasting someone's elses post, as proof
       she is right
       Whine that she gets no respect
      

   2. She did:
       Rephrase and clarify some of her statements that were
       challenged
       Aknowledge that perhaps some of her opinions were just
       personal and perhaps (Gasp!) wrong
       Indicate an openness to reconsidering some of her own
       opinions

And your response to her admission that perhaps her attitude on banjo needed revision? A playground "Nyah, Nyah" attitude, cutting and pasting her sincere admission as further proof that you are right.

If all of these qualities in the Racial Non-No's thread make AZIZI "nice" I don't feel so bad about being called "nice." Not that you would ever call me "nice" to my face...

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: artbrooks
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 09:26 AM

McGrath, your point on grammatical correctness is well taken, but I think that it would scan better were some of the words hyphenated; e.g., self-obsessed rather than self obsessed. Just IMHO, of course.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:13 PM

I fear the drive on our forum that has seen – what posters say – be overridden by who is saying it, has now reached a critical level.

Jerry I admit that I am truly terrible person and beyond all help and that Azizi is a truly wonderful one. But what has that got to do with the points that posters make and the treatment they receive?

If posters are not considered (by you) to be a truly wonderful person does that now mean that is acceptable for others to mount abusive personal attacks upon them?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:32 PM

I'm not sure where I fall in the nice/not nice rankings and it doesn't really matter to me, other than I know where I want the preponderance.. I think we all are capable of falling into and out of either or both of those categories. Including you, Roger. My guess is that, in person, you are a good host and with a lot of different interests. I would love to see your file of songs you have written and discuss their content and hear you sing some of them. You write good songs.

The problem comes about when you mount your hobbyhorse and sit down at your computer. Incidentally, has your pony recently had offspring? Say it isn't so.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:56 PM

O would some power the giftie gie us to see ourselves as others see us...


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Wolfgang
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:26 AM

What a devilish wish (smile).

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Wolfgang
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:49 AM

Shambles,

once more you are arguing in complete disregard of context.
Take Ebbie, for example. If someone would call her all these names I would doubt their judgement for Ebbie has posted nothing that could be characterised with any of Jock's colourful expressions. You, however, have worked very hard to be awarded this characterisation.

The question "How would you feel if someone punched you on the nose"? can have very different responses depending upon what has happened before.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Janie
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:56 AM

'I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.'

The Nose Knows
That no nose
Can blow a blow
That blows a nose
Like the Nose' nose blows

Relevant? Nice? Not nice? Noteworthy? Quotable? Or merely quoted?

I am a Worthy police. I deem this thread less worthy.

I am bored and avoiding doing patient notes.

Goodbye.

xxoo,

Janie


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 11:58 AM

Oh wad some power the gift tae gie us

To see ourselves as others see us

It wad frae mony a blunder free us

An foolish notion

What airs in dress and gait wad leave us

An e'en devotion
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert Burns.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


G.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:06 AM

The question "How would you feel if someone punched you on the nose"? can have very different responses depending upon what has happened before.

To the academic perhaps? The pain of the victim is still pain - even if the pain of being punched on the nose was not judged as bad as having one's leg cut-off - and even if some others (not feeling the pain) judged that the victim had somehow deserved such treatment. The victim is hardly likely to agree that they desevered such treatment - especially if they had never indulged in nose-punching.

But would this make the act of punching anyone on the nose any less desirable an action for so-called civilised and educated people to indulge in? Is it really an act that should be encouraged because some people may judge that others may have done something to deserve a punch on the nose?

Is such confused thinking going to result in more nose punching or less? How are those who are not judged to have deserved such treatment to be protected from also being punched on the nose? How can you ever judge another for nose punching - if you indulge in such things yourself, ever condone or find excuses for it?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:17 AM

In light of your final comment, now might be a good time to stop punching Joe and the Clones on the nose, don't you think?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:39 AM

I fear that it is our anonymous volunteer fellow posters who are doing most of the nose-punching.

For even if I wished to indulge in nose punching - it is difficult to do to anonymous people who are not prepared to stand by their judgements and actions.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 08:17 AM

I don't recall any instance of Joe Offer posting anonymously, and your constant, and tedious, references to anonymous fellow posters do amount to personal attacks, whether you know their names or not.

You might at least regain some credibility if you referred to them as moderators, which is exactly what they are.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 11:49 PM

I will resist the way this thread has strayed from its title, and instead offer a quotation.

In response to a fellow folkie from the US's request for advice on where to find music, clubs and sessions during a future visit to the UK:

"Subject: RE: English folk clubs & pub singing
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 06:48 AM

Perhaps you should write to The Department Of Culture, Media and Sport
and ask them?

http://www.culture.gov.uk/global/press_notices/archive_2005/dcms166_05.htm?month=November&properties=archive%5F2005%2C%2Fglobal%2Fpress%5Fnotices%2F%2C

I am perfectly serious, it would be useful for them to receive such a request and interesting to read their reply."


When someone is so focused on him/herself and his/her causes to the exclusion of normal civility; when someone opens numerous new threads under false titles to make his/her points; when someone ignores all advice and instead clutters up and spoils threads; when that same someone wages war on others simply for disagreeing with him/her; then it is time to pull the plug on such a waste of time and space.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 06:53 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_standard

The following extract from the above.

There is a subtle distinction to be made between double standards and hypocricy. The latter implies the acceptance of a single standard, but the disregard of it in practice. A man who believes that he has a right to have extra-marital affairs but his wife does not holds a double standard. A man who condemns all adultery while maintaining a mistress is a hypocrite.


Subject: RE: In the UK......? (thread title change complain
From: El Greko - PM
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 03:48 PM

Joe,

Shambles is just a hypocrite. Don't elevate him to asshole status. Assholes have their uses.


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El Greko also says-

When someone is so focused on him/herself and his/her causes to the exclusion of normal civility; when someone opens numerous new threads under false titles to make his/her points; when someone ignores all advice and instead clutters up and spoils threads; when that same someone wages war on others simply for disagreeing with him/her; then it is time to pull the plug on such a waste of time and space.

Good job I didn't mention the dirty knife

All posters have the choice to respond or ignore what is posted. Is it helpful to encourage the idea that they have some choice over what others choose to post or some right to judge the contributions of others?

But what a short memory some posters appear to have? For what judgement would El Greko make of a poster who can go to the lengths of inventing a whole new Mudcat identity to start a thread in which this new identity can argue with themselves and others?

Mudcat censorship – a proposal

What all of these abusive personal attacks and public judgements simply boil down to – is that a poster holds, expresses and evidences a view that does not appear to be a popular one. And a less than positive response to this seems to be encouraged or tolerated by some posters who should perhaps know better. Perhaps it will be finally accepted that if any view is politely worded – such a view has every right to appear and be discussed civilly on our forum by those who wish to? And those who do not wish to – are perfectly free to ignore any view they wish?

When this is finally accepted – perhaps those who are prepared to can be allowed to move on and be permitted to discuss all the issues involved in the selective imposed censorship on our forum – without all of the personally motivated and hysterical static?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:22 AM

Oh nooo, please Roger, don't, it hurts to laugh so much. Seeking to counterattack only to prove my point - bless you! But don't bust a vessel now...


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:25 AM

By the way, Roger, of course you are allowed to move on. I for one wish you would, too.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:34 AM

Subject: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Xanadu - PM
Date: 30 Mar 05 - 06:55 AM

I have watched the "Censorship on Mudcat" thread with dismay, as more and more attacks were made at Roger (Shambles) and the main issue became clouded.

In an attempt to get back to the basics, I am starting this thread with a suggestion for how and when to apply censorship on this forum, using elements of "constitutions" of other forums I attend.

Whatever the outcome of this discussion, it need not be applied to Mudcat; that is the prerogative of Max as the forum owner. But at least we can come to some agreement on the direction censorship could take.

Here are a few simple rules:

1. Monitoring (and censorship) of threads can be delegated to volunteers, who should be NAMED and announced and should always sign with their Mudcat handle in order to censor or modify or comment on a posting.

2. Ideally such monitors (or "clones" as they are often referred to) should only hold the position for a maximum term of 1 year.

3. The reasoning for any thread closure or post deletion should be announced publicly as a separate thread. This will allow discussion of the reasoning to take place without cluttering the original thread.

4. Legitimate reasons for post deletion can only be:
   a) potentially libellous statements
   b) overtly racist remarks

5. Legitimate reasons for amending a post can only be:
   a) to delete personal information given in a post
   b) to delete web links to pornographic or racist sites

That's it. What do you think?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:56 AM

Verbosity is like flatulence. They both stink.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:58 AM

However, "like" should not be taken to mean "the same as". So a verbose hypocrite should not be confused with an asshole - my point further up.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:43 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Wolfgang - PM
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 05:50 AM

Is it fuck-as-hit-piss or
fuck-a-shit-piss?

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:48 PM

Obsession is nine points of the law.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 07:56 PM

The following less noteworthy Mudcat quotation and the inserted editing comment should make anyone smile......... Well that is anyone with a sense of humour.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat censorship - a proposal
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM

This should prove to you the appropriate way to deal with this person. Ignore him, and he will refresh very old threads to get attention. It proves what I have always said. He is a classic troll. This is his bait. Please don't take it. He will now launch into lengthy diatribe and a spate of cut and paste out of context quotes. Please don't feed him.


It is very tempting to delete all posts back to Roger's 'refresh', but that would only feed his paranoia. Another JC


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:14 PM

Irony lives.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: BaldEagle2
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:48 PM

Ee - by gum!

I treks off for a few weeks doing thingy-wotsits elsewhere, and when I get back I find that our poor Shambles is yet once more at the middle of another hell-fire controversy : a controversy of which not one bit has in any way been caused by anything he has said, done or written.

Sheesh!   Why can't you all leave the poor man alone?

Dragnabbit!   Now I shall have to call a meeting of the DKSS a.s.a.p. and get some help for our poor beleaguered champion of freedom of speech.

Don't worry Shambles, we members of the Dirty Knives Secret Society are on your side.

(er ... you couldn't possibly spare a few seconds of your extemely precious time to say a few words of encouragement to the members of the DKSS, could you, Shambles old chap?   - we are very disappointed that you never turn up to any of our secret meetings ....)


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 02:31 AM

http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode03.htm#5


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 01:53 PM

Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Jeri - PM
Date: 12 Dec 05 - 11:34 AM

Mooh, I suppose it might be a better place if we all quit reacting to our favorite irritants, whether they're anonymous guests or people slagging anonymous guests, whether they're Mudcat's problems or people commenting on Mudcat's problems, or somebody who's just commenting on All of the Above, as I'm wont to do on occasion. It's just that the threads that seem to inspire the most passion and the greatest number of posts are ones that piss us off. Me too, and I really don't like it when I get caught up in that game. Maybe it was always this way and I never paid much attention to it. I think RiB is right in saying Mudcat's changed. I wouldn't expect it not to. I miss some of what got lost in the process, and I could do without some of what got added, but it is what it is.

It's nice though, the Mudcat seems to have gotten out of the morgue and back into the hospital.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 01:58 PM

Anything by Shambles.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:31 PM

I saw that this thread had been reincarnated, and I thought, 'Bet it was Roger revived it'
G.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 04:40 PM

If we all chip in, can we get him a life for Christmas?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 05:14 PM

A life isn't just for Christmas. A life is for life.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 02:02 AM

Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 06:03 PM

The point is a valid one. Folks that have never offered anything but criticism also never contribute to the upkeep of this site in any way.

Mick

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Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 11:03 AM

Contributions, as I have used it, was not meant to solely indicate financial support. I would hope it was evident in my post. Everyone contributes in one way or another. If your only contribution is criticism, a know it all attitude, or personal attacks, you are not worth much here. I know many of our most valuable contributors have never donated a dime. But the place wouldn't be the same without them. I think that is spirit of it.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 11:35 AM

Presumably Shambles has some reason for posting those last quotes from Big Mick. I'd hope that was to indicate he agreed with what Mick was saying, which seems eminently sensible...


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 02:16 AM

Contributions, as I have used it, was not meant to solely indicate financial support. I would hope it was evident in my post.

Perhaps it was the use of the word 'upkeep' in the first post may lead many of us to think that it was 'evident' that it was the provision of financial support that was being referred to?

And felt by the poster to now entitle them and certain other posters to pass judgement upon and to call their fellow posters names?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 05:10 AM

The noun upkeep has 2 meanings:

Meaning #1: activity involved in maintaining something in good working order
Synonyms: care, maintenance

Meaning #2: the act of sustaining
Synonyms: sustenance, sustentation, sustainment, maintenance.

Read learn, and inwardly digest!

G.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 06:42 AM

See the first post in this thread.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 07:03 AM

It does say "No need to reply" but then, "There's none so blind as those that will not see".
G


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 08:14 AM

Shambles, this shows you for what you are. I know you are very busy cryin' and complainin'. Perhaps that explains why you left off the third quote. Let me help you out. Here it is:

Subject: RE: R.I.P. MUDCAT
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 10:34 PM

Nice try, but you won't suck me into this one. Get your pitiful need for argument somewhere else.


Folks, don't feed this one. He gets so panicky when people don't respond.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 11:17 AM

No need for me to panic then - when you are around....*Smiles*

Happy Christams Mick


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 11:52 AM

Is terminal smugness fatal?
G. ☻


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 11:58 AM

Terminal stupidity can be.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:05 PM

Terminal anything tends to be pretty fatal.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:39 PM

Yet some people still hang around and confound medical science!
G ☻


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 06:31 AM

Shambles-=you are a moany old fart, somebody should take your computer off you, and put you in a home.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Epona
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 09:29 AM

I needed something to make me laugh this morning, and this thread is it! Thanks a million!

E


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 01:31 PM

Subject: RE: Affected by The Licensing Act 2003
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 12:52 PM

Shouldn't the title of this thread have (England) added to it??
G..


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 02:06 PM

"Subject: BS: Wanker's Register
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 02:15 AM

I see we have a Lurker's Register so why not a Wanker's Register for self-confessed wankers?

I think that may have 'bashed the Bishop' myself once when I was younger - but I did not inhale................."


Which confirms our deepest suspicions!
G..


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 03:57 PM

I decided to revist this thread and yes, it really does suck. the one post I did prior to this one got bleeped because it obviously offended someone for being vulgar. funny thing, I can't remember what I posted. But I really think that only just a couple get offended and the rest laugh pretty hard.

this is the usual double standard here, where judgements, many of them poor are made on what is and what is not in bad taste. I believe some moderators really need to grow some skin.

Do you some of you male moderators (are there any female clones?) sit down when you pee?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:00 PM

I have hit the age where I automatically pee when I sit down. I stand lots.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Martin gibson
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:12 PM

At your age, how do you manage to get your pants down in time?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:18 PM

That's just it. I don't. I pee five time a night. I am happy when I also get out of bed five times a night.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Martin gibson
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:24 PM

Well, for me lately it's been only once, maybe twice a night. You have to try to not drink so much liquids in the evening.

But I think some moderators sit when they pee even during the day time. It goes with being easily offended I think.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: bobad
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:30 PM

Had your prostate checked out lately ? An enlarged prostate will cause urinary frequency.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Martin gibson
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 05:51 PM

Mine's fine. doc recently checked. You are right though about it causeing problems.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 07:17 PM

Hmmm......

Martin having his prostate checked.....

Must resist the temptation to comment.........


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Mr Masculinity
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 08:14 PM

I usually pee sitting down, Martin, and I am a MAN. That's right. You wanna know why I pee sitting down? Well, it's really simple. As a boy I did what I was instructed to do and peed standing up. I did that for years and years. What happens when you do that is, you frequently spill a few drops on various parts of the toilet where you don't necessarily want them...specially just at the start. It's messy.

It finally hit me one day that there was no particular reason for a guy to pee standing up when he has a toilet to sit on. None at all, in fact, except the irrational fear that it "isn't manly". Well, I had to overcome that fear, Martin, and OOOOOH BOY was it TOUGH! I was terrified that someone might think me to be a wuss, not a man, if I peed sitting down....like a girl!!!!

Sheesh. The terror. I can't tell you.

I decided I had to beat this irrational fear. Finally, one day, I gritted my teeth, dropped my pants, and SAT on the toilet....and peed!

Much to my surprise, the skies did not part. No thunderbolt from God came down to fry me. My testicles did not shrivel up and fall off! Nothing bad happened at all.

It took several weeks of nervousness before it finally hit me...there IS no reason why a man can't or shouldn't pee sitting down...if there's a toilet available....and it keeps the toilet nice and clean on the seat and outside parts. Less trouble for whoever cleans it. And it's relaxing too. Very soothing to pee sitting down.

There are courses in overcoming the fear of peeing sitting down, Martin, and I seriously suggest you take one. You will feel so liberated when you overcome the fear of what others may think. You will discover that your masculinity is still intact.

Do it now! And save time on cleaning up afterward. And remember, you CAN still pee standing up when at urinals or outside.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 08:28 PM

Heh! At last a really funny thread. It makes for a great break from the political ones.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Mr Masculinity
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:04 PM

You have the nerve to call me a disgrace? Me? The fittest representative of the male gender in all of Massachusetts? I'll tell you what you are, Martin Gibson. You're a currish fen-sucked malt-worm, a mammering tardy-gaited nut-hook, a pestilential nattering cutpurse, an impertinent toad-spotted haggard, and a simpering gutless know-nothing son of slagheap slattern! I wouldn't rate your masculinity much above that of a common freshwater mollusc. You are as slippery as a squid and as ugly as a squashed hemp worm. Go back to your noisome and filthy quarters and ponder your own multitudinous sins, you wretched infertile maundering and colossal nincompoop!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:06 PM

Holy shit. I AM gonna vote for the Marijuana Party in January.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:07 PM

However, those are Shakespearean insults. Read many of 'em all before.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Mr Masculinity
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:12 PM

For sooth, Peace. Thou hast me at a disadvantage. And just when I was warming to the craft! Note that the scoundrel Martin has slunk off, tail between his legs, like the cowardly cur that he is. I always wax Shakespearian when I am wroth. The man curdles my blood. He is the sort that should be extinguished like a smelly candle, stamped out like a used up cigarette butt, ripped out like a bad tooth.

How dare he question my masculinity? It is legendary.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:16 PM

100!

Not as legendary as mine, pal. Get a new shtick.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Mr Masculinity
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:18 PM

Oh, give me a break! You are a fat, talentless has-been, Shatner. I can't believe you have the nerve to carry on your ridiculous "career". Go back to Montreal, for God's sake, and give us all a reprieve, sir.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:21 PM

Montreal is the city in which I grew up. Please keep Shatner where he is. The city didn't do anything to you, did it?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:22 PM

Now, now! No one can say stuff like that about the Great Shatner on this forum without seriously damaging his credibility, pal. Just watch it.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Mr Masculinity
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:36 PM

Shatner is a cultural microbe, beneath my contempt. I spit in his general direction. As for you, Martin, you incompetent dim-witted whelk, you pathetic discarded merkin, you nattering incestuous insect, I have no doubts that I would exceed you in any contest of masculine virtues. You cannot even spell the word "masculinity". That settles it. Does your wife know that you play with your stuffed Barney dinosaur when she's out buying your smelly pickled oysters so you won't snivel and whine incessantly?


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 09:40 PM

Yep. The Marijuana Party.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Lanfranc
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 05:32 AM

Lest we forget from whence he derives his soubriquet Shambles

Personally, I always fancied a Janet Reger Party, but could never get an invite.

Remember: "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me!"

Alan


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 04:54 AM

You may have missed this editing comment as it was inserted into my post and did not refresh this thread.

Subject: RE: Law prevents carol singing. (England)
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 02:07 AM

Can who ever inserted 'England' to this thread's title please remove it?
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I won't bother finding out who made the title change, but I can see no good reason for the change to have been made - so I changed it back. I would expect to see a location added to titles of threads about concerts or tours, not for every damn thing.
-Joe Offer-


[the above editing comment was in small brown writing and still being inserted into my post without my permission and against my wishes]

Merry Christmas


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 06:10 AM

I hope you're not including everybody in you Merry Christmas, I didn't ask you to wish ME Merry Christmas, by what right do you take upon yourself to wish everybody a Merry Christmas?
Who elected you, this is an egalitarian site, and nobody has any more right than anybody else to wish Mudcatters a Merry Christmas.
I want to be told the names of all those anonymous Mudcatters who have the right to wish ME a Merry Christmas.
Remember this is our site.

Giok


Happy New Year BTW.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 08:01 AM

LOLOL


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 03:14 PM

Subject: RE: Law prevents carol singing. (England)
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 06:42 AM

Shambles,

Why should the person who added England remove it, as it makes clear the fact that this does not affect the USA, or Canada, or indeed many other countries, including Scotland.

Don T.


I do not say they should. I simply, respectfully and politely asked if they could. If I had thought it to be a good idea to include this in the title - I perhaps would have included it.

As I did not - a simple PM asking why and if I would object to any change being made to my chosen thread title would I think, to have been the polite, respectful, polite and classy way to proceed.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 03:21 PM

They let you out again, didn't they!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 03:30 PM

Peace

Irony lives.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 03:33 PM

Yes, it does. A grenade exploded near my leg and now my leg is very irony.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 04:02 PM

Hey, BTW, Shambles. If you get arrested for anything over the holiday season, I promise to start a minimum of six threads about Censorship. I wouldn't want you in jail having to fret over that.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 06:00 PM

Subject: RE: In the UK......? (thread title change complaint)
From: catspaw49 - PM
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 03:46 PM

Screw that! What we really need here is another new prefix. I propose the prefix CBRSS.......Contains Boring Repetitive Shambles Shit. Or maybe we could just put in one of those toxic waste warning signs for any thread the little dude posts to!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 06:04 PM

That about sums it up.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 06:09 PM

No, I don't mean that.

Your repetative shit about censorship is a pain in the ass. You made a few racist remarks to a friend of mine on a thread and for that I think you suck. But everything you post isn't such. I just took a cheap shot and I don't think it's right to do that. My apologies for the post above this one. Not for this post however.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 06:10 PM

I don't think we want to go there, "Peace"/Brucie/Bruce Murdoch. Just resist the temptation to post to the troll threads, and Mudcat will be a much happier place. You are by far the worst compulsive poster I have ever seen. You have posted over fifty messages in the last twenty-four hours, and there are many days when you post far more than that. There are almost 18,000 messages posted under your registration; and that doesn't count all the anonymous messages you post, or the hundreds I've deleted. While most people can say what they have to say in one message, you post ten. And when you get tired of posting under your own name, you post anonymously. You are the only "regular" Mudcatter who posts anonymously with any frequency. It's high time that you stop.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 06:15 PM

Yes, Bruce, we do allow visitors to drop in and post as Guests. This privilege is supposed to be for visitors, although we do have some people who abuse the privilege. When regular, registered Mudcatters log out and post anonymously, that's outright deception - and the only Mudcatter who does that on a regular basis is Bruce Murdoch. There have been times when I have seen your "Peace" personna post messages arguing with your anonymous personna. It appears that you may even have posted a couple of pro-Nazi messages when the British Nationalists weren't posting enough to keep the argument going.
You have no defense, Mr. Murdoch. You have abused Mudcat and taken advantage of the good will of the Mudcat community, and you are not to be trusted.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 06:17 PM

Yes, Mr. Murdoch was warned numerous times, over a period of more than a year. Again, the offense is not simply anonymous posting - it is manipulation caused by anonymous posting, often posting anonymously and as "Peace" in the same thread, within minutes. No, Mudcatters do not have a right to post anonymously when they want to cause trouble. Most Mudcatters don't do it - but Mr. Murdoch does it habitually. In doing so, he has betrayed the trust of the Mudcat community.
I resisted the tempatation to "out" Mr. Murdoch's anonymous posts until today, when he started a thread to complain about Mudcat "allowing" Nazi posts - some of which it appears he had posted himself - as "BNP Supportor."
Bruce has had a good reputation in the folk community. I can't understand why he has decided to take advantage of Mudcatters by this sort of manipulative behavior.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 04:21 AM

For the record, I have already asked Max to make Members-Only posting in the "BS" section, and I think membership should be granted only to those with verifiable e-mail addresses (you register, and then get a password sent back to you). So far, Max hasn't said anything about being ready to make the change.
I don't like the Nazi threads, either, but if you can just resist temptation and not post to the Nazi threads, I can close or delete them quietly....
Making a big public deal of banning them and refuting them and all that, just serves to provoke them.
Yes, we are opposed to racism, and we are opposed to Nazis, and we don't like Martin Gibson when he's a bad boy. Or Tarheel, either.
So, PEACE, Peace.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 08:26 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Are all bigots male?
From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 01:41 PM

No, Roger. You are confusing intolerance with bigotry. It is not a male thing, but you knew that when you set the bait in this thread. And intolerance is not always a bad thing, where bigotry is always bad, IMHO. For example: I am very intolerant of your manipulative, whiney, pathetic need to be abused and abusive. I am intolerant of your need to cry, piss and moan that you don't get the respect that you seem to think you deserve in spite of your penchant for disabusing anyone who doesn't agree with you. You give no respect, yet you demand it. In short, I am intolerant of you and wish you would seek counseling and leave this place. All of this does not make me a bigot. It makes me dislike you and all of your posts.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 08:29 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Proposal for members only posting of BS?
From: Wolfgang - PM
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 03:58 PM

I always wonder that there are still people trying to argue with Shambles as if he was engaging in a real conversation with a point. On the surface it ´may look like it but it is just self serving pompous hollowness.

Catspaw, your insults work with most people, but not at all with Shambles. He needs them, they are his elixir of life, he collects them to show them at later times proudly as a substitute of an argument. If it makes you happy to call him names so be it but you should think of the orgiastic feelings he gets out of each new insult. Do you really want to serve that masochism?

Wolfgang

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Subject: RE: BS: Proposal for members only posting of BS?
From: Little Hawk - PM
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 04:03 PM

Perfectly expressed, Wolfgang.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:12 AM

You really are a nasty piece of work Roger, and you must be the biggest grudge bearer in the world.
Your previous 6 posts are chldish mean spirited and self defeating.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:17 AM

Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

Shambles you are a :-
Self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive.
No need to reply.
G.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:27 AM

Hee hee, Roger you are so boringly predictable. Thanks for reposting that BTW, I thought I captured you perfectly in that post, so it's nice to see it again.
G.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:40 AM

For the sake of saving bandwidth, I am proposing that Quotes used more than once anywhere on the Forum be numbered. Then, to save time and effort, you can post say #36 and all will nod their heads in agreement or post comments to prove you wrong. Let's try it.

46!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:41 AM

3!
with a 52 to back it up!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:42 AM

17


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:43 AM

17
without the unwarranted editing by an anonymous, power hungry clone!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:44 AM

17 17 17 17 17


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:44 AM

26 which proves 17


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:45 AM

Isn't anyone listening? I am I the only one willing to speak out for what is right and just??????


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 10:48 AM

42 is the answer to Space the Universe and everything, except Roger!
G.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 11:04 AM

42 is a catch-all and means nothing and everything.
17 is a jumoing off point for discussion.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 11:32 AM

I've said it one time, and I'll say it again: 48!
So THERE!!
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Gervase
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 11:46 AM

Blimey, I missed this thread first (second and third) time around. It's really a place for the Shambles to play with himself, isn't it?
Careful where you sit, and mind you have some Kleenex about your person!


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:10 PM

Are you accusing him of Onanism?
Giok.


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Subject: RE: Less Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:41 PM

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