No invisible means of support

Subject: RE: No invisible means of support
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 12:35 PM

Most people feel the need of something or someone to believe in. I have no religious beliefs, and am sure that when I die that is that.
Some people could not face that thought, and take refuge in reassurances that it will not be so.
In a way I envy people with an unshakable belief that they go on to a better place when they die, it must be very comforting.
Giok

Subject: RE: No invisible means of support
From: Big Mick
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 12:32 PM

Art, I have the greatest respect for you and your opinion. Bill D would be another that feels as you do that I have similar feelings for. But there is no way to explain it to someone. All of the things that Ebbie points out had as their genesis something greater, IMO. Faith comes from believing in something that is greater than ones self. I don't buy into the literal stories either, but I completely accept on faith the lessons taught by them and that they come from something greater than myself.

Mick

Subject: RE: No invisible means of support
From: GUEST,Mr Happy
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 12:30 PM

Agree= but not 'all people that on earth do well'

see here- new archbishop.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/4481796.stm

Subject: RE: No invisible means of support
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 12:28 PM

"physical compass"

All a compass tells you is which direction your planets magnetic field runs in... it's got nothing to do with emotions...

Ever heard the phrase "The right tool for the job"?

"we don't think that gods of any kind have ever existed!?"
Ever? So they may have ONCE existed but have packed up tents and moved on down the road like divine tinkers? Interesting idea... it sure might explain why sometimes it seems like things are just getting worse and worse and worse...

Subject: RE: No invisible means of support
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 12:24 PM

Believe it or not, Art, I would agree with you if it weren't for some intangibles.

Love
Beauty
Appreciation
Regret
Sorrow
Hope

These are not things measured on a physical compass.

Subject: No invisible means of support
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 12:08 PM

Without lambasting or denigrating religious beliefs of anyone, can we try to state why we don't think that gods of any kind have ever existed!?

As I've said, God, the tall tales of Christ, ghosts, pagan incantations etc. have, truly, represented forms of wishful thinking to me. They are ways of controlling the masses. After gaining the maturity of some extended quantity of years, and looking at this world we are in as it has always been, I continue to, respectfully, I hope, state the facts of the matter that seem so obvious.

Art Thieme