Special Bush section on Mudcat

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:37 AM

Actually Hrothgar there are just too many of them, and with the hate and paranoia threads surrounding them, it makes this place unpleasant, frankly not as nice a place to visit as it once was. But perhaps it has become a place where the few rule and control the many.

Yours, Aye. Dave (who spends less time here because of it)

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:52 AM

Aye the specter of totalitariamism does make this an unpleasant place.

Get used to it.

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: number 6
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 11:54 AM

Why doesn't everyone just forget about Bush here on the cat ... everywhere one goes today the topic somes up regarding Bush, with friends, peeple at work, on the news . He's just too much in our face these days ... why waste time and fill ourselves up with so much negative energy over the asshole (and his cronies). What's all the debating going to do ... day after day after day and what is accomplished. Enough to make one sick, if not mean (and that is quite evident).

sIx

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 12:00 PM

get well soon

I hope you find the courage to particpate in citizenship, or in the absense of any concern for current events, that you find the means to submerge yourself in unknowing bliss. I am all in favor of you being free to live life as you wish.

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 12:51 PM

Well, as one of the guilty parties, I wish to say that the majority of the unpleasantness on the subject begins when conversations on the topic are dragged downhill into mudslinging, name-calling, scatological characterizations, and the like.

There are a few, really, who have resorted to these anti-social mechanisms over the years, notably MG, and a few other slimers. I have unfortunately occasionaly been irked into replying in kind with sarcasm and individual investive. I have made a resolution not to let that recur; we'll see if I have the fortitude and spiritual "sand" to stick to that resolution. It is always a little tempting to wade into one of these food-fights! :D

Those of us who do not want to resort to fifth-grade style methods of discourse are more than interested in counter-discussion, preferably specific, unambiguous, unhateful, analytical, intelligent and constructive.

A

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 08:46 PM

Actually, for those who think there are too many Bush threads, they need to stop, take a deep breath, and thank Amos for limitin' it to what it is... Yes, his "Popular Views..." thread has acted as both a place to rant as well as a clearing house of what's out there on Bush...

So, thank your lucky stars for Amos... It could be worse...

Bobert

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Once Famous
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:22 PM

Amos, you just don't get it. You just like to hear yourself speak(write) and resort to completely snobbish phony, and I sincerely mean phony and unsubstantiated cardboard intellectualism.

The most I truly get out of your daily whining about Bush and how you have turned this place into a political soapbox for your opinions only is: blah, blah, blah, I'm entitled to everything.

How about this: Ban all political threads, the most decisive thing about the membership here, and give Mudcat a chance to be a cohesive place. I could truly live without all of the political threads here. Could you Amos? Highly doubtful.

And why should discussions be on just your terms, Amos? You have provoked many here and your blind and fanatic far-leftist ideas and obsessions truly warrant some psychiatric investigation on your part.

Not only, that, but you used two adverbs in a row.

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:26 PM

"Not only, that, but you used two adverbs in a row."

Perhaps we ought to leave English grammar, parsing and punctuation out of the fight, OK?

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:30 PM

"Not only, that, but you used two adverbs in a row."

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:32 PM

Odd....I don't think my ideas are fanatical. Nor are they obsessive. They pretty well cleave to the outlines laid down by Jefferson and his gang. Declaration of Independence, Constitution, that sorta thing.

Now, it's true I started a thread to collect views of the Bush administration in, but it has cooled a lot of other threads from firing up, I guess, so that's one good thing.

As to politics being banned from the Mudcat, I guess the Spirit of Folk Music has always had room in it for political issues, especially when there is human oppression or a violation of civil rights going on.

So, while it is up to Joe Offer, Max, and Jeff, I suspect yer gonna have to put up with political threads.

I do confess to being persistent about pointing out ole w's shortcomings as a diplomat, leader and human being. One reason is that I have a deep disgust with the mindless robotic mass-think that elevated him to his current position. I think a few voices have to speak out about the Emperor wearing no legal constraints. Just because half the voting population turned dumbass on us doesn't mean they have to stay that way, I guess.

I am sorry it offends you.

A

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:37 PM

Be sure to, use good, punctuation when, criticizing otherses' use of grammar.

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: GUEST,Les in Chorlton
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 06:58 PM

Is that the sound of shouting dying down?

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 06 Jan 06 - 01:45 PM

I am fascinated by this idea of taking the politics out of folk song. What would that leave us - just very old pop songs?

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: hesperis
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 10:51 AM

It might be nice to have a category for discussion of events separate from the bs category. (I prefer my bs a little more light-hearted, really.) But bush doesn't deserve his own section. When his reign is over there will be other names dominating the political threads.

Anyway, it's up to Max.

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: DougR
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 01:35 PM

I vote no. Not because I am a supporter of President Bush and his policies, but I think it would be an affront to Amos. Amos began his thread, I believe, prior to the 2004 election. The last time I looked it had gained almost 2000 replies. I want to help Amos reach at least 5000 by 2008. If another thread is posted I fear that it would bleed support from Amos' thread. That would be sad. :>)

DougR

Subject: RE: Special Bush section on Mudcat
From: Arne
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 08:27 PM

The Mudcat is, to re-quote Wilson, 'A broad church'. Bush has done a number of things that generate much discussion. Would it be useful to put all the Bush stuff in a place of it's own?

Good idea, but the "BS" category is already taken....    ;-)

Cheers,