BS: London Bombs

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 07:58 AM

Aircraft has already been tickled off the terrorist list. Our silly government need to look elsewhere. Many I spoke to in my area who know the guys arrested say the government AGAIN got it so wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: bbc
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 07:47 AM

Dick, even this past Thursday, people got on board w/ various items--books, magazines, pens, etc. David & I followed the written directions to the letter, but many others didn't & their items were not confiscated. We noticed this as we sat, for 11 hours, w/ nothing to do. I didn't want to risk having my belongings confiscated, so I did as I was told. Good news update--we *did* get all of our luggage the day after we arrived, intact. BTW, in my previous post, when I said we arrived at 4 pm, that should have read 4 am; I was a bit tired!

best,

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 12:25 AM

But it's all a fraud, folks. Here's how the FBI does terrorism around here:

"...This incident made me suspicious of the relationship between the Klan and law enforcement--a suspicion that deepened in 1998, when it came to light that the FBI had established a Klan chapter in Fort Worth, Texas, with the intent of blowing up a chemical plant in nearby Arlington. As a result of this episode, Texas Monthly magazine honored the FBI with one of its Bum Steer Awards."

http://www.mackwhite.com/archive72.html

You folks need to listen to Webster Tarpley, if you have computer speakers. He's one of the better analysts on this stuff, and his show airs Sunday nights, I think it's 9PM Central Time, US. Two hours of global intelligence analysis. He's been doing it for decades. Not partisan except for being anti-tyranny, as far as I can tell.

http://www.rbnlive.com/listen.html

That link has Media Player and RealPlayer connections.

The man on for the hour after him is good, too. Terry Anderson. From southern California. Single-issue host. Illegal immigration. The numbers he quotes will break your heart if you're an American taxpayer.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:50 PM

Oh, I can see the security lines now when they start the "bend over and spread your cheeks" measures!

ah...sorry, I was being facetious...of course, they will merely require that 12 Million dollar scanners (that 'may' be able to detect the difference between semtex and toothpaste) be installed at all airports...Minot, North Dakota will have to double the size of their terminal to fit it in, but hey! that's the price of security!

Meanwhile, giggling terrorists will be blowing up transmission lines and bridges because we are too PC to stop them 'without due cause'....

who, me? Cynical? Nawwwww...

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:14 PM

"what in hell is the point of banning books?"

Well, there just MIGHT be something hidden in the pages, if you can take it into the toilet and piss on it, it might reconstitute the explosive...


"or drinks and food that can be purchased at the airport after you clear security?"

Ah, well you see, they MIGHT be able to hide dangerous stuff, and sneak it thru the security check, then they will be able to swap the stuff for the water etc...

And were would they hide all this stuff? Why in the very same place that the people who are busy 'protecting' us hide their brains.... and then apparently there are some naughty ladies as well...

Your Government! Thinking with its a*** so you don't have to use your brain...

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 08:02 PM

Even if you wish to accept that the Tare-ists are going to assemble bombs from the contents of their toothpaste tubes and cough syrup bottles, what in hell is the point of banning books? or drinks and food that can be purchased at the airport after you clear security?

Being inconvenienced is one thing; having it done mindlessly is another.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Keef
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 06:52 PM

Last years London bombings on tube and bus were caused by liquid explosives carried by misguided young men.
The latest plot is very similar but a hundred times more deadly.
Why do so many people prefer to think it is all a government conspiracy rather than what it really is, which is an act of pure unjustifiable evil. No matter what the perceived injustices felt by these people there is nothing that can justify the mass murder of entirely innocent passengers.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 06:17 PM

Yer missin' th' point, there, Dick.

None of this is supposed to actually accomplish anything worthwhile, but give the impression that Bushie & The Bushites (and by extension, Bushie's Poodle Tony) are "Doin' One Heckuva Job" to protect us from Godless Terrorists (absent the Godless Communists of yore).

And a substantial portion of the brain-dead public and the Congress Critters apparently believe this swill.

God Help America.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 05:43 PM

Well, as might be expected, the counter-measures, no matter how well-intentioned, aren't feasible. Aircraft dont have room to put all of what would normally be carry-on luggage in the checked-=baggage area. Security delays are so lengthy that planes are forced to take off half-empty in order to meet their schedules; there's talk of the airlines suing the British government. Professional musicians who depend on air travel are SOL, as are professionals who have to carry equipment and briefcases.

And I, for one, don't feel a damn bit safer.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: robomatic
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 05:23 PM

Time to put your foil hat back on GUEST, the radiation's got yer brain.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 04:34 PM

The FBI allowed the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center to occur:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/wtcbomb.html

Other testimony (which was not allowed in the case by judges, or was discounted by the press) shows the FBI actually recruited the bombers. But the above is the bare minimum. The FBI could have substituted fake explosives and chose not to.

Then, from 2003:

"Other sources within the bureau and the Central Intelligence Agency said the administration is pressuring intelligence agencies to develop "something, anything" to support an array of non-specific terrorism alerts issued by the White House and the Department of Homeland Security...Capitol Hill Blue reported that FBI and CIA sources said a recent White House memo listing the war on terrorism as a definitive political advantage and fund-raising tool is just one of many documents discussing how to best utilize the terrorist threat."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30312

So the govt wants terrorist cases. But there are none. So they create them. They go to Florida, buy some kids some combat boots and then bust them for terrorism:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/14897299.htm

This is just a warmed-over version of COINTELPRO, which was...well, read about it here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[e-mail]/msg03472.html

And the latest airline stuff in Britain is even warmed-over govt plotting. Operation Bojinka:

"One aviation security expert, Douglas Laird, said the thwarted plot eerily resembled a 1994-1995 plan code-named "Bojinka" that Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed had overseen to blow up 11 airliners simultaneously.

In that plot, al-Qaida sympathizers had planned to mix liquid explosives undetectable by most security equipment, smuggle them aboard planes in a contact lens solution bottle and then set them off using a Casio watch as a trigger, FBI documents show."

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14280416/page/2

Bojinka, too, was a U.S. govt plan. Ramzi Yousef is a U.S. govt agent, and he's allowed to run around the world doing this kind of stuff:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-2132

The 7/7 bombings in London were a govt. action, too. I think the man who's gathered information on that is named Charles Shoebridge, if you want to do a search.

Look up Operation Northwoods for the 1962 plan by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff to kill Americans to start a war with Cuba. Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act. Kennedy fired the men responsible for the document.

Government-sponsored terrorism has been a fact of life for thousands of years. The people in power create diversions and blame them on enemies to rally populations. But with the internet we're past having to take their word for this kind of garbage. And one instance of terrorism perpetrated by the govt is enough for me. They can't be trusted after that. Blair, Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Queen Elizabeth...they have to go before they throw another REAL terrorist event into the mix.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 12:55 AM

Those loonies "Myth Busters" - I have some severe problems with some of their 'work' - actually sealed an old fuselage, pumped it up to the correct pressure difference,and shot holes in it. Small bullet holes just caused 'slow leaks' - they did get 'explosive decompression' results, but the necessary 'hull breaches' were pretty dramatic...

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: freightdawg
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 11:19 PM

Yo, Skipy, you were right and I need to stick my nose in the corner on that one. For example "A" just recall the 737 in Hawaii that lost a major section of the top of the jet and still stayed in one piece and was able to land.

I guess I was thinking that if the explosion happened at just the right spot (i.e. a spar or major electrical/hydraulic component) then the results would be fatal.

Thanks for the correction

Freightdawg

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: skipy
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 06:14 PM

Got to come onboard on this one!
I am by trade an airframe engineer, punching a hole in the structure e.g. skin is not as big a problem as it seems, there will be at worst an "explosive decompression" this will lead to rapid pressure lost & loose items leaving the aircraft. The pressure drop will cause the release of the emergency oxygen masks, when tugged from their housings these will supply oxygen to the bearer ( note, put yours on first before trying to help your child! you will manage it with plenty of time to help others, if you try to help them first you may fail & them you are both done for! ) There will then be a "rapid descent" to 10,000 ft or below, you can breathe from there easily.
The real problem is serious structural damage, spar failure or similar, result curtains for all, explosion in fuel tank, you won't even know about it.
Hope none of us even try out the first option.
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST,Another.GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 06:09 PM

Hey you lot, leave GUEST alone.

Everything becomes clear when you understand just how pervasive State Control is in this modern age.   Not many of us realise that 9-11 was actually organized and carried out by U.S. government agents in order for Big Business to make mega-bucks over the last 6 years.   

Personally, I have serious doubts about whether World War 2 actually took place, but that is just a personal thing.   

But one truth constantly denied by the West is that no muslim has in any way harmed or injured any living soul since the end of the Crusades (for which actions carried out then they have humbly and repeatedly apologised over the centuries).   

The media is either a part of the conspiracy, or an unwitting pawn.   When you see in the press that Bin Laden is quoted as saying something like "in the name of Allah, all true believers must wage war on the decadent West", you will find that the original words were "Be true to our faith and live and let live.   Walk in peace".   

And the Taliban - there never was anything like that in Afghanistan (a wonderful freedom loving democracy until invaded by Christian soldiers).   The blowing up of the Buddha statues was with explosives only available to CIA operatives - need I say more?

GUEST has got it right.   Wake up and listen to him.

And go out and hug the next Muslim you meet.   

If you can't find a Muslim, any member of any ethnic minority will do for the time being.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 06:02 PM

well, yesterday at 5:05PM I predicted that someone with clout would soon be promoting serious profiling...today at 4PM, on MSNBC, one of their major anchors, Tucker Carlson, did PRECISELY that.

He had a spokesman for a US Muslim organization on, asking him why we shouldn't be specifically watching for young Muslim men, rather than "little old Black ladies in wheelchairs" and other clearly non-threatening travelers.

He got, of course, the usual "we must remember what the basic principles this country stands for, and that the best defense against terrorism is developing a good dialogue, so that Muslims feel safe in their Mosques and....." the usual suggestion that "it ain't fair to pick on us". When Carlson tried to pin him down about how almost EVERY terrorist identified in the last few years WAS a young Muslim, he got evasive answers and red herrings.

(Carlson was very careful to agree and admit that MOST Muslims do not commit these acts, and that much care needed to be taken...he just kept asking why we are working so hard to be PC, when 99+% of airline passengers DO NOT FIT the profile of hijackers & bombers!)

There were no good answers forthcoming...

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: freightdawg
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 05:47 PM

Dick, actually all you would need to do would be to punch a hole in the thin aluminium skin of the plane. The pressure inside the cabin while the plane is at 30-40 thousand feet is immense. One tiny little hole and the pressure inside the cabin would finish the plane. Add that to the fact it would be over the ocean with virtually no chance to discover where the explosive was or what type it was and the plan is pretty ingenious.

What I don't get is that if you can blow a plane up with the contents in the cabin, what is to keep you from mixing the ingredients up before hand, stowing them in your checked baggage, and then detonating the thing when you are over the ocean. Do they think the terrorists are really that stupid not to figure that one little issue out?

Oh, well. If it was a real threat I hope they caught the perpetrators. Better to have all this debate than thousands of dead and missing loved ones.

Freightdawg

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 04:43 PM

The irritating thing, to me at least, is the almost total irrelevancy of the security measures to the actual danger. Seems to me that using the contents of, say, a paperback book or a tube of toothpaste is not the most direct nor effective way of blowing up an airplane.

Yes, terrorism is a definite threat. But let's be real about trying to deal with it.

And Dave--over here, in the 60's, we had protesters blowing up things. Admittedly these were more-or-less targeted attackes, rather than simple terrorism.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 02:07 PM

Exactly, Bill. When we felt left out and excluded we went on some peace marches and smoked some dope. We knew it was the man doing his best to bust us. These guys don't know that they think it has something to do with the west hating them and the only way to fight against such a mighty power is with bombs and terrorism. They need to learn the truth by getting out more. Well, out of the reach of their peers anyway. Or maybe out of their heads...

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 02:07 PM

Guest - I wish you had some links to back up your claims.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 01:46 PM

"We feel left out and excluded. "

therefore, "we'll just blow up a few thousand random people..that'll show 'em!"

You bet...you won't be left out again..although you may not like the way you are INcluded.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 01:42 PM

In Florida recently, a "terrorist bust" turned out to be a group of semi-literate ganga head Haitians. They were paid 50 thousand dollars to "act like al Qeada" by the FBI. Same with that nonsense in Ottawa. That country's Gestapo delivered some chemicals to an address and then busted the people there.

These are STAGED events. The shoe-bomber was a literal drooling idiot. The passenger thought the drool running off his lip meant he was ill, and the stewardess was notified. Geez. GOVT-CONTROLLED MIND SLAVE. And now you all have to walk around without shoes at airports.

Bush and his people were on the anti-anthrax antibiotic Cipro on Sept 10. A week later people started dying from anthrax. Now in the US there are a hundred additional postal laws because of the "anthrax scare."

It is ALL government-sponsored terrorism. If this was pure, from the gut hatred of America or Jews by the Arabs, why aren't bombs going off right now in the Jewish garment district of NYC? Or the diamond district? Or in Jewish-controlled Hollywood? Because avg people aren't like that and just want to be left alone.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 11:21 AM

You don't like banjos either then eh Dave?

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 11:12 AM

They were just showing an interview with a Moslem man of around 20 something - The age of most of those arrested. He said these things (terror attacks by Moslems) are happeming because 'We feel left out and excluded. We have no conrol over what is happening'.

Now, is it just me or does that sound familiar to you? Didn't we ALL say this in our dim and distant youth? Why is not obvious that this is a thing that all young men go through. It is not the exclusive right of Moslems or Black People or Hippies or Punks. Then the answer was shown as clear as anything.

The young man interviewed was from an area of Birmingham that has a 95% Moslem majority - Most of those from Pakistan. He doesn't know any better. While I 'fought the establishment' alongside my Black, White, Jewish and Christian peers this guy doesn't. All he sees is other Moslems. The only people he speaks to are other Moslems. He sees the establishment as being anti-Moslem. We know it isn't. It's just anti young men (and women of course!)

Lets end this lunacy. Stop this ridiculous Apartheid system we have and break up the envlaves. Lets show this young man and his peers that 'the man' doesn't have it in for Pakistanis. Let him see that White Christian young men are treated equaly badly. He may continue to fight but at least it will be for the right reasons!

What am I on about? Dunno. Been off ill all week and have too much time on my hands...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: bill\sables
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 10:58 AM

Dick leave your banjo in the US and use one of mine while you are here
Bill

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 10:50 AM

Has nobody told you that banjos are banned in England? I'll take it off your hands if you can't return with it. My Grandfather used to play one, made by a company called Walliostros, or something like that.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 10:31 AM

It looks like I may be able to take a banjo into the UK, but I may not be able to take it back. Anyone in England want to buy a rather nice, fairly inexpensive SAGA Banjeaurine?

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 06:47 AM

At least you got home safely bbc and thank goodness for that.

I bet you have some idea of how it must feel for the innocent lebanese and innocent iraqi's caught up in this vicious world and are unlucky enough to be caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I am afraid the Muslim militants and America and Britain and Israel amongst others, have a lot to answer for. How can they defend the killing of such innocent people.

Religion stinks.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: ard mhacha
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 04:49 AM

Yes, the fears of an attack could have been genuine, but please forgive me for feeling that this could be another `security scare, remember the tanks and military at Heathrow Airport a few years ago, this turned out to be another bluff by Blair, to show the public how alert his sceurity personnel were.

John Reid the British home secetary should have thanked the public for their, tolerance,patience,and GULLIBILITY.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: bbc
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 04:39 AM

David & I flew back to the U.S. today (August 10) from Manchester & it was no fun. 2 hours for check-in & security, 4 hours sitting on the plane while manual security check was done in the U.S. on each passenger. I got up at 5:45 am & it was after 2:30 pm till they could serve any food. All we had on the plane w/ us were id papers, wallets, & tissues. I couldn't bring my purse, water, snacks, book--which made the 7 hour (plus 4) quite uncomfortable. 2 body searches. When we arrived at JFK in New York, it was about an hour through customs & another hour to collect our luggage. We had missed our connecting flight & been rescheduled for 4 pm to 8 pm. The 8 pm flight was delayed till 11 pm. Then, they told us it was cancelled & we might get out on standby the next day (or is it today?!) A kind couple offered us a ride to Albany in their car (4 hours). We got in at 4 pm after being up continuously. Now, we need to see if we can collect our luggage tomorrow. It's a great opportunity for thieves since we had to bundle our cameras, purses, Ipods, & all quickly into our unlocked suitcases. I'm glad I arrived safely & we all tried to make the best of it, but it was an awful day.

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 01:15 AM

LXIX

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 01:15 AM

We're a target rich environment. It is every citizen's duty to do their part in the war on terrorism, and that includes being terrorized by ANY government.

I think the perception here is whether there is a war on or not.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 12:06 AM

If America is involved in a war on terrorism, why are the Mexican and Canadian borders not closed? "Eleven Egyptians" didn't show up at their school the other day, while thousands of criminals poured across the Mexican border. But which did they report on the news? Our govts are the terrorists. Our govts are making sure foreigners flood into our countries. Our govts are jealous of our liberties and are taking them away. Our govts have clamped down on the airports so they can disarm passengers, thus rendering them defenseless when a true threat is initiated onboard by, you guessed it, the government. In Britain you are spied upon endlessly, yet you're arrested if you try to listen in on a phone call made by that old whore Camilla Gorilla. We are cattle in the eyes of the blood-sucking elite. Wake up and feel the wounds on your necks. Another terrorist attack is surely coming, but don't turn to the govt for advice and protection afterward. They DID the attack. REFUSE their "vaccines" against the Iranian crotch-rot. REFUSE the bus ride to the "Iranian-free" collection points. Beat the crap out of the arm-banded bureaucrats who tell you you "have" to get on the bus. Or better yet, give them a dose of lead. In Britain you'll have to make do with a pointy stick, but stick it to them anyway. Govt only exists to grow larger and take more control of your life, and they're about to grab for the whole enchilada. Make 'em pay.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: number 6
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 11:22 PM

Why do I even bother.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 11:09 PM

Duh-oh!

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: number 6
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 11:06 PM

Why be fully prepared, is there someone, somewhere who is a threat?

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:56 PM

It's even worse when your opponent is unarmed.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:51 PM

It's no fun having a battle of wits with those who are only half prepared...

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: number 6
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:39 PM

Interesting ... when these incidents are reported there seems to be a tendency to scoff them off as just 'fear mongering', propaganda whatever ... now if if this incident wasn't caught and diverted and let's say ten airliners blew up killing a thousand plus passengers everyone would be criticising and demanding an explanation from the government's of the intended target .... and then war drums would beat even louder for revenge.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: number 6
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:33 PM

Don't worry foolestroupe ... it'll never even be noticed.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:30 PM

You never had a wit to remove.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 10:20 PM

It seems as if I will not be able to travel on planes now - people now have to remove all sharp items.

How do I remove my wit?

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: jacqui.c
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:57 PM

Good luck with that Rap - I'm hoping the situation will have settled down by next Wednesday.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:55 PM

Tomorrow, tomorrow
I hope to fly
Tomorrow
It's only a day away....

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: jacqui.c
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:48 PM

Right now this is the rule for travel from the UK.

New Carry-On Baggage Restrictions FROM The United Kingdom
Effective immediately all carry-on baggage must be processed as checked baggage for all flights departing from airports in the United Kingdom (U.K.). Due to these changes, American Airlines will waive excess baggage charges through August 17, 2006, for those passengers who need to check their carry-on bags due to these new restrictions, up to a maximum of two excess pieces.

Nothing may be carried in passengers' pockets. Passengers may only take the following items through the airport security checkpoint, in a single transparent plastic bag:
pocket size wallets and pocket size purses plus contents (money, credit cards, identity cards, etc. but not handbags or purses)
travel documents essential for the journey (passports and travel tickets)
prescription medicines and medical items sufficient and essential for the flight (a diabetic kit for example), except in liquid form unless verified as authentic.
eye glasses and sunglasses, without cases
contact lens cases, without bottles of solution
for those travelling with an infant: baby food, milk (the contents of each bottle must be tasted by the accompanying passenger) and sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight (wipes, creams, disposal bags)
female sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight, if unboxed
tissues (unboxed) and/or handkerchiefs
keys (but no electrical key fobs)
If an item does not appear in the list above it is NOT allowed. Additionally, no liquids, gels or other items of similar consistency are permitted to enter the sterile areas except for a) baby formula, breast milk, or juice if a baby or small child is traveling; b) prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger's travel documents; c) insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines. This also includes liquids and gel products purchased as duty free.

All U.K. transiting passengers will be required to check any carry-ons they bring to the airport regardless of origination. Passengers who have already departed the US and will be connecting in the UK will not be allowed to use the transit area in the UK airports and will be routed back to the ticket counters to check their carry-on luggage.

This comes from the American Airline website.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:37 PM

Well put Bob that is about what it adds up to.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Deckman
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:29 PM

I'm finding this story and the reactions to it very telling! I am an American. I can't help that. I was born here ... it was my parent's fault.

My intial reaction to this story was: "BULLSHIT! This is just more evidence of President george bush's (I refuse to capitalize his name) determination to sway the upcoming election."

Then I thought: "Geeze Louise! This story comes out of G.B. Maybe there's some truth behind it?" Then I thought: "Wait a minute. Tony Blair is in as much hot water as george bush. Maybe he started it for the same reasons."

The bottom line is this story demonstrates just how much DISSTRUST I now have of the American government. And I find that very sad and very damaging.

Best wishes, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:26 PM

He's not fighting that war...he's pouring billions down a hole elsewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 08:18 PM

I think you can still take on a book.

I think the aircraft hostess will still pour you a coffee.

If a guy can bring an explosive shoe-heel onto an airplane, I can believe that more guys can try something new to do the same thing, blow our aircraft up.

I may not be a fan of our President, but if he knows there's a war on and you folks don't he's smarter than you.

Subject: RE: BS: London Bombs
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 07:47 PM

Guest 3.06 pm at least put your name to your shit, will save me naming you.
Anyway still no bombs found and paranoia sweeping the country. 24 being held. Wonder where they will site the British Guantanamo Bay ?