Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Haruo Date: 23 Nov 06 - 09:34 PM That dog-cat-and-mouse poem is pretty good. Who's it by? When and where? It should go well to any tune you might use for the Night before Christmas. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Stewie Date: 23 Nov 06 - 06:53 PM Hey Rowan, That Lawson poem you mentioned re Cathie O'Sullivan is actually by Banjo Paterson. Fewer of his poems lend themselves to musical settings than Lawson's - shame on you for robbing the man of this one. The title of Cathie's record was 'Song of the Artesian Water' Larrikin LRF-047. Her setting of Lawson's 'The Teams' is also on the LP. Regards, Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Jill Date: 23 Nov 06 - 06:13 PM I set Henry Lawson's WWI poem, The Route March, to music: it's recorded on my album The King's Well. Of course, Robert Burns set many of his verses to traditional tunes. There are umpteen recordings of these -- take your pick. Also poems by Sir Walter Scott. E.g., Jock O'Hazeldean is half trad., and half his -- there are recordings by Alex Campbell and Priscilla Herdman. Then there's Violet Jacob's wonderful poem The Wild Geese Flee, which Jim Reid put to music: he sings it on one of his albums, and so does Cilla Fisher. Another Scots poet, Lady John Scott (Alicia Spottiswoode) set her own poems to music; but my favourite of these is one that Archie Fisher sings (possibly his own tune?): Ettrick. On his album with Garnet Rogers, Off the Map. And then there's Lady Nairne: Jean Redpath (who has also recorded many Burns poems/songs) has an entire album of these poems. For Irish poems: there's The Gartan Mother's Lullaby -- which many recording artists seem to think has traditional words. T'ain't so! The lyrics are still under copyright: the poet was Joseph Campbell, and his son Simon (living in Ireland) holds the copyright. Padraic Colum's poetry has also been set to music. It's too late at night here (in Jerusalem) to think of any others, but I'm sure I'll think of more in the morning. G'night! Jill |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,Peter Taylor Date: 23 Nov 06 - 12:11 PM How common do you want to be? I have an LP by Paul McNeill on which he sings The Nursery Rhyme of Innocence and Experience, a poem by Charles Causeley set to music by Tony Cullen. Most of Martyn Wyndham-Read's discs have at least one poem on. My favourite is his setting of The Sailor Home from the Sea, a poem by Dorothy Hewitt, but there's also Andy's gone with Cattle, Harry the Drover, Reedy River, Water Lily, all by Henry Lawson. In fact most of Emu Plains is poems set to music, and there are lots more, including, on Beyond the Red Horizon, Martyn's setting of Silence and Tears, a poem by Byron which he decided was miserable enough to make a great folk-song. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: oldhippie Date: 23 Nov 06 - 11:35 AM What about this poem? Anyone know if its been set to music? Before there were pineapples, peaches, and plums The dog and the cat were companions and chums They lived in a highly respectable grotto Where "God Bless Our Home" was their favorite motto The dog had a parchment, a parchment had he Proclaiming his right to be happy and free The charter was signed by the patriach Noah And witnessed in form by the goat and the boa The dog went a-hunting on Mount Arrarat The parchment he left in care of the cat His trust in the cat was complete and abiding The dog then as ever was much too confiding The cat who was always a rover in soul Grew bored with the cavern and went out for a stroll Beguiled by the songs of the birds in the bowers He ambled and rambled for hours and hours Then out from the crannies the mouse people crept And lunched on the parchment the puss should have kept They flocked with their children, their nephews and nieces They shredded the charter and ate up the pieces When home came the dog at the end of the day The last of his freedom was whisking away He leaped!, But the tails disappeared in a flicker The dog may be quick but the mouse folk are quicker When home strolled the cat as the twilight drew dim The dog paid the utmost attention to him The cat who at climbing was always a leader Escaped by a whisker and ran up a cedar So seeking his vengeance and justly at that The dog through the ages still chases the cat The cat with equivalent justification Has chosen the mouse as his favorite ration |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:09 PM "To Anachreon In Heaven"... The tune appears to have been a collaborative effort by members of the society. It's been claimed that it's a Carolan tune. That's quite credible - it's a good enough tune, and it has that kind of feeling about it. But I don't know if there's any evidence for the claim. ........................ As pointed out, lots of settings of Kipling songs prior to Peter Bellamy - but I'd say his tunes knocked the rest into a cocked hat, and felt uncannily right. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Susanne (skw) Date: 05 Nov 06 - 08:57 PM Not 'common' in any sense, but Edwin Brock's 'Five Ways To Kill A Man' was adapted by Iain MacKintosh for the tune of 'Ye Jacobites By Name'. Iain recorded it on 'Gentle Persuasion' (1988). Chilling! |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: emjay Date: 04 Nov 06 - 04:08 PM Danny Doyle sang The Highwayman Burl Ives did The Wandering of Old Aengus Leonard Warren did a whole album of Kipling song/poems -- I think the album was called Rolling Down to Rio and was recorded in the 50s. The Irish Rovers did Winken, Blinken, and Nod. I have all of these on old lps, at least 20 years old, and some 50 years old, and remember them because I recently copied them to cds. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Haruo Date: 04 Nov 06 - 03:41 PM The Mennonite Hymnal: A Worship Book has a poem by Anne Bradstreet (17th century Massachusetts, Colonial America's first woman poet) set as a hymn, and Christian Worship (Northern Baptist/Disciples, 1941) sets a text by Vachel Lindsay. Not sure if these are "common" poems. I know I've heard Longfellow's "Midnight Ride of Paul Revere" sung, have sung it myself years ago, don't quite recall the tune. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Rowan Date: 03 Nov 06 - 08:50 PM "The pub with no beer" as a song became famous (infamous?) in the 60s but followed the theme and many of the words of a poem with the same name published in the North Queensland Gazette in January of either 1941 or 1944, from faulty memory and without supporting documentation. In the thread on recitations I recently included the text(s) of an item ("To Morrow") that appears to have started as a poem, been converted into a song, and since been transformed into a recitation by Keith McKenry. Cathy O'Sullivan has also recorded a Lawson poem about drilling for artesian water into a great song; unfortunately I can't remember the title of either the poem or her record but I think she is responsible for the tune. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: MartinRyan Date: 03 Nov 06 - 11:19 AM A propos of all this: Stan Hugill, in "Shanties from the Seven Seas" prints an anonymous poem called Seafarers which he says was well known to sailors, who sang it to "Can't Ye Dance the Polka". I've never heard it sung - and find as I read it that another tune ,"Barrack Street" , keeps coming into my head! With a few kicks here and there, it seems to fit well. Any of you shantymen any experience of the song? I'm tempted to have a go. Regards |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,JimP Date: 03 Nov 06 - 08:44 AM Here's a folk-scare era album of poetry to Kingston Trio-esque settings: The Three Ds While painfully earnest (Crayon Box), I quite like several of these. I especially like the Gunga Din setting. As for songs set to other tunes, ever try the words to the Gilligan's Island theme to the tune of Mary Ellen Carter. Hey, they're both about shipwrecks . . . |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: freda underhill Date: 03 Nov 06 - 08:10 AM Chris Kempster is an Australian songwriter who set many of Henry Lawson's poems to music. A CD of his songs has just been published, and some of the songs can be heard here... |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: mustradclub Date: 18 Oct 06 - 06:06 AM Dont know if its already been mentioned but surely one of the best is Patrick Kavanagh's poem Raglan Road which was set to the tune for Dawning of the Day |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: The Walrus Date: 18 Oct 06 - 05:48 AM Kipling has been mentioned several times:- I have a CD with a 1919 recording of "Recessional" sung at a Peace Thanksgiving service (at one of the Cathedrals), the tune is that of the hymn "For Those in Peril On The Sea". "Gethsemene" can be sung to the Easter hymn "There is a Green Hill" "Tommy" fits to "Rising of the Moon" W |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Joe_F Date: 17 Oct 06 - 08:49 PM Weirdly, *I* set "So We'll Go No More a-Roving" to music while I was in highschool. However, the tune is unsingable, having a range of two octaves. Do you suppose there is a category of "closet songs", on the analogy of closet drama? |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Georgiansilver Date: 17 Oct 06 - 02:26 PM If you want to set poems to songs...try John Masefield...great stuff and all you have to do is make a tune...... Best wishes, Mike. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh Date: 17 Oct 06 - 01:33 PM Ronald Stevenson set Hugh MacDiarmid's "Better ae gowden lyric". And, re. original posting, WBY based his "Salley Gardens" (Irish "Saile", a willow) on two lines he remembered of a traditional song sung by a serving-woman (well, he was of the Anglo-Irish Ascendancy). There's one song, I think "Lorgaigh Streams" from the Co Donegal, with lines in it about taking Love aisy, as the leaves grow on the trees (by far the best part of the Yeats poem, anyway). Herbert Hughes set it to "The Maids of Mourne Shore", but in one of his Volumes "Irish Country Songs" he mentions with approval a variant of this apparently made by some young Irish farmer/ploughboy and sung to the Yeats words; as far's I recall HH gave the notation. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: rich-joy Date: 17 Oct 06 - 07:57 AM The Widow's Uniform - Barrack Room Ballads & other Soldiers' Poems of Rudyard Kipling, as set to traditional tunes by Peter Bellamy - sung by : Dave Webber / Brian Peters / John O'Hagan / Anni Fentiman / John Morris - 1996 CD The Man From El Dorado - songs and stories of Robert Service - by David Parry (with Ian Robb, Alistair Brown, Graham Townsend, Ken Whiteley) - CD "A Smuggler's Song" (Kipling) - recorded by John Roberts & Tony Barrand, 1992, on Golden Hind CD - "A Present from the Gentlemen - a Pandora's Box of English Folk Songs" "Baptism" sung and spoken by Joan Baez (music composed and conducted by Peter Schickele) - (1967) - Vanguard CD, 2003 (it still stirs me - but then, this is from my teenage years ... :~) Henry Lawson and AB Paterson - probably too numerous to mention!! Selections from AE Houseman's "A Shropshire Lad" - music by Polly Bolton, with the late Nigel Hawthorne - CD "Song, To Althea from Prison" by Richard Lovelace (and sung beautifully by my partner, Paul Lawler!) - but the music composer escapes me for the moment ... These are the first ones that spring to mind for me ... Cheers! R-J |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,Maurice again Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:17 PM Sorry, that should be www.seantyrrell.com |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: ositojuanito Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:15 PM Hi Phil Ochs recorded 'The Highwayman' John |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,Maurice Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:12 PM Sean Tyrell has recorded musical settings of many poems. Have a look at www.seantyrell.com (not sure if he spells it with one or two "l's") |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Don Firth Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:23 PM Byron's "So We'll Go No More A-Roving" has been set to music by Richard Dyer-Bennet and can be heard on his first recording on his own label, Dyer-Bennet Records No. 1. So we'll go no more a-rovingHe has also recorded "Spanish is the Loving Tongue" (by Charles Badger Clark Jr., original title, "A Border Affair"). I'm not sure if he wrote the tune or if someone else did. A couple of people have set Yeats' "The Song of the Wandering Aengus" to music. I think Jean Redpath has recorded one version of it. Tons of stuff out there. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Micca Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:22 PM Snuffy (and any one interested) there is a Stonking version of Henry Newbolts "Drakes Drum" on Firm Friends CD (Firm Friends is a quartet 2 of whom are Nutty and Treaties1) I like it so much I have been known to sing it (Can't do the harmonies that they can, tho') |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,CA Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:01 PM Bit of a chuckle...a teacher of mine told me that almost all of Emily Dickinson's poems could be sung to the tune of the "Gilligan's Island" theme song. He was right. (Just a note: he was NOT an English teacher, thank goodness.) |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Haruo Date: 10 Oct 06 - 02:56 PM But when I go there I see no mention of Beowulf (who/which is incidentally not exactly "obscure", albeit underrecorded). Where is it? Haruo |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Nigel Parsons Date: 10 Oct 06 - 02:38 PM Welcome aboard Darowyn. Darowyn's site A gratuitous link for you CHEERS Nigel |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Darowyn Date: 10 Oct 06 - 01:00 PM I know the original thread asked for poems that are not too obscure, so I apologise in advance. However I have recorded a couple of verses of Beowulf, sung in Anglo-Saxon. I can't find any trace of anyone else attempting to do this within the last thousand years or so. It's on www.darowyn.co.uk, and I hope that posting the link is not violating any Mudcat taboos. Cheers Dave |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST Date: 10 Oct 06 - 12:28 PM Dark Logh Na Gar - Lord Byron - tune and song (played and sung by Willie Clancy and other Irish musicians and singers Heather Ale Robert Louis Stephenson (recorded from Wexford Traveller 'Pop's' Johnny Connors Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Haruo Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:30 AM e.e.cummings' "purer than purest" is in the Unitarian hymnal (Singing the Living Tradition #250, to a tune called STAR by Vincent Persichetti). #3 in the same hymnal is Edna St. Vincent Millay's "The world stands out on either side". Haruo |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Haruo Date: 07 Sep 06 - 12:34 PM Speaking of the Northwest US, in addition to those Stilly River Sage mentioned, Jesse Odlin's 1898 poem "The Tale of Two Cities" (about the early history of Sedro-Woolley, Washington) has been sung by a number of people (including yours truly), generally to Old Rosin the Beau. There was a time when every schoolkid in Skagit County knew it (which makes it at least locally common) and at least in my family it has survived more than 70 years since my mother (and her siblings and mother) abandoned the family farm to foreclosure in the Depression and moved to Seattle. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: KenBrock Date: 07 Sep 06 - 11:32 AM The Simon Sisters (Lucy and Carly) had three albums on Kapp and one on Columbia (reissued later with additional background) with many poem songs. The Coumbia one included Who Has Seen the Wind, The Lobster Quadrille (Lewis Carroll), The Lamb (Blake), Wynken, Blynken and Nod, and I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day. A wikipedia article with their discography is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simon_Sisters. Also, much or all of Blake's Songs of Innocence and Experience has been set by William Bolcom, and also by Hampton, VA's Mike Hassell. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Big Jim from Jackson Date: 07 Sep 06 - 11:32 AM Wasn't Patterson's "Waltzing Matilda" a poem first, then it was set to music? And I know that Slim Dusty sang "The Man From Snowy River". Some of you who mentioned Noyes' "The Highwayman"---have you listened to Vera Aspey's (of the duo Gary and Vera Aspey---but it's on a solo album) version of that poem/song? |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Sep 06 - 10:56 AM This seems to mostly be a UK thread, but over here in the U.S. Pacific Northwest (Seattle region) my father (John Dwyer) set any number of poems to music. He found Eugene Field's collection of poetry to be quiet fruitful (i.e., one of his tunes was to "The Little Peach" and another was "Little Boy Blue"). "The Ballad of the Merry Ferry" by Emma Rounds, a little poem crying out to be sung, became an informal anthem for our family any time we did ride the ferries in Puget Sound and has turned up in Northwest song books over the years. He was particularly fond of an edition of poetry collected by Louis Untermeyer called Rainbow In the Sky that we read as children. I think each of us kids has managed to get hold of a copy, and I've read to my children from it. There are some poems in here that I simply can't "just read." I have to sing them because that's how Dad used them. A week or two ago I heard a story on NPR, I think it was a weekend edition of a regular program, in which they played a sung version of "The Cremation of Sam McGee." Or I might have heard it on Prairie Home Companion. But it was NPR and it was pretty recent. SRS |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 07 Sep 06 - 07:48 AM Martin Simpson does an achingly beutiful rendering of Kiplings "The Four Angels" on his Bramble Briar album |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Artful Codger Date: 07 Sep 06 - 05:13 AM Joan Morris sings the Oley Speaks version of "On the Road to Mandalay" (composed in 1907) on Moonlight Bay: Songs As Is and Songs As Was. From the liner notes: { Lawrence Tibbett sang it in the 1935 movie, Metropolitan. It was later performed by Frankie Laine in his act and recorded in a shortened version by Frank Sinatra. } This no doubt accounts for its popularity. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Artful Codger Date: 07 Sep 06 - 12:40 AM Not quite a pub song, but the theme song for the Anacreontic Society, a gentlemen's club in London. It was written by Ralph Tomlinson, who had been a president of the society. The tune appears to have been a collaborative effort by members of the society. However, as one definition of "Anacreontic" is "a drinking song", and the society members certainly did that, you're very close to the mark. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,Rowan Date: 07 Sep 06 - 12:27 AM Genie wrote "and then set to the tune of English pub song (?) To Anachreon In Heaven." Almost a pub song; actually the 'anthem/song'' of "The Anachreontic Society", which was a bunch of blokes that met regularly in the Crown and Anchor (in the Strand, in London?) between about 1770 and 1790. It was with some surprise that I found that the Anachreontic Society was brought to Australia by an ancestor of mine (John Piper) when he was an Ensign in the NSW Corps. Before Bob reminds us all, this was the Rum Corps. When I worked at Old Sydney Town (a bit like an Australian counterpart to Williamsburg) I was able to get quite a rise out of visiting Americans with both the song and the fact that "The Star Spangled Banner" only became the US National Anthem in 1931/32. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Genie Date: 07 Sep 06 - 12:03 AM Of course, we Yanks are very familiar with a poem being set to an existing tune. Our national anthem, The Star Spangled Banner, is a poem written by Francis Scott Key and then set to the tune of English pub song (?) To Anachreon In Heaven. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Joe_F Date: 06 Sep 06 - 10:00 PM Haruo: Yeah, I know. Near the end of "How the Whale Got His Throat" you will find a quotation from the conductor on the train from Brattleboro to Boston. ObSongs: I gather that he made the acquaintance of Francis James Child. Then he quarreled with his brother-in-law, made a fool of himself, and retired to England. Sad. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Haruo Date: 06 Sep 06 - 02:11 AM Kipling actually began his children's-fiction-writing career (Mowgli, Jungle Book etc.) in Vermont (where his wife was from) while living in a house they called Naulakha just north of Brattleboro, within an easy stroll of SIT where I taught Esperanto this past July. The house is now the property of the British Land Trust or whatever it's called, sort of like National Parks, and is run as a vacation rental. So Kipling was not merely well known in America, but was almost an American, just as he was almost British and almost Indian. FWIW; a bit thread-drifty. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Joe_F Date: 05 Sep 06 - 09:23 PM Gary: Thanks very much for the reference. It reveals that I was mistaken about the tune that most Americans used to know for "Mandalay". It is the one by Oley Speaks, and it is not a music-hall tune that made it across the Atlantic; Speaks was an American, and the tune hails from Cincinnati! Kipling was well known in America, and it is not surprising that Yanks as well as Brits made up music for his songs. However, it still appears that an enormous corpus of largely British tunes has pretty much disappeared. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Big Al Whittle Date: 05 Sep 06 - 08:39 AM It might help us know what you are looking for if you tell us why you want these things. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Snuffy Date: 05 Sep 06 - 08:32 AM I was surprised how many of Henry Newbolt's poems have been set to music, and more which might. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 05 Sep 06 - 12:38 AM Hi Gerry, I haven't heard Andy Irvine do The Highwayman. But I really like Andy so I'll give it a go. Could just be I've never been bowled over by Loreena McKennit. Don |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Blowzabella Date: 04 Sep 06 - 06:28 AM I think that Mellstock band have recorded several of Thomas Hardy's poems and Liverpool Packet have a recording of Masefield's |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Haruo Date: 04 Sep 06 - 06:05 AM Yeah, but I don't think anybody here is confusing the two. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 04 Sep 06 - 05:46 AM A cautionary tale: A few years ago I encountered a group of earnest school teachers from the English Midlands. They had decided they were going to 'research' folk songs from their particular county and then infli ..., sorry, perform them in front of willing or (perhaps!) unwilling audiences. They were competent (albeit rather dull) musicians who, I strongly suspect, knew nothing about folk song when they embarked on this project. They scoured the local archives but all they came up with were standard English folk songs which tended not to be as specific to their locality as they had hoped. They then had to fall back on local amateur poetry, often in 'dialect'. As these poems contained many of the local references that they had hoped the archived folk songs would contain they gleefully fell on them and 'set them to music'. The result was dire as the poems were mostly tedious doggerel and the newly composed tunes did not have the character and beauty of many folk tunes. The moral? Poems set to music are not a substitute for folk songs and please think hard before you attempt to pass them off as such. |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: Genie Date: 04 Sep 06 - 03:12 AM Carolyn Hester recorded a beautifully haunting song called "Blackjack Oak," which I learned, via Mudcat, is either lifted from or at least adapted from a portion of Benet's epic poem "John Brown's Body." |
Subject: RE: Common poems set to music From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 04 Sep 06 - 02:53 AM Debby McClatchy put two Robert Service poems to music, Cremation of Sam McGee, and Ballad of Blasphemous Bill. I find the setting of Cremation a bit monotonous, but I like her Blasphemous Bill a lot. Andy Irvine has also recorded Loreena McKennitt's setting of The Highwayman. I don't find his recording at all ponderous. Andrew Marvell's poem, To His Coy Mistress, was given a nice setting by Diane Tarraz (spelling approximate). Turn, Turn, Turn is of course Pete Seeger's setting of some verses from Ecclesiastes. There have been many musical settings of bits of Song of Songs (mostly in Hebrew, which original poster may consider too obscure....), also of various psalms. |
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