Subject: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 06 Sep 06 - 02:30 PM I have just uploaded an Internet radio station which should interest a lot of people on this site. It is called Worlds Of Trad and it features traditional folk, ethnic, world, roots, blues, old time country and even some early jazz. In short it covers traditional music from absolutely everywhere. It is hosted by Live 365 Internet Radio (http://www.live365.com/index.live) The station will be showcasing the down-home music and song traditions of people from all over the world, although, since I'm relying on my own collection, there's a heavy bias towards Britain, Ireland and the USA. The programme is three hours long and it is on a continuous loop. Listening is free, although there are occasional adverts. Subscribers to Live365 can avoid these. The following link should take you straight to the station, although you may need to download the free Live365 player before you can hear anything; http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini.cgi?membername=oneworldmusic&clientType=&playlist=&odatrack=&odapos=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.live365.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmini.cgi%3Fmembername%3Doneworldmusic%26clientType%3D%26playlist%3D%26odatrack%3D%26odapos%3D&tm=1157546123812 If that doesn't work key in http://www.live365.com/index.live and then search for Worlds Of Trad. All being well, I'll be uploading a new programme on the first Wednesday of every month, so the next upload will be Wednesday October 4th. I'll also be welcoming requests as long I've got them and as long as they fit in with the station ethos. Please send any you have to Fredlive365@aol.com . There's more information at the station site, and I will shortly be developing a website of my own to post playlists, artist biogs, song translations etc. In the meantime, I hope nobody minds if I post the present playlist here. Happy listening. Fred McCormick September 2006 playlist The Parson and the Clerk Walter Pardon (England) What Would You Do if You Married a Soldier Elizabeth Cronin (Ireland) Yodel it Over Peta Webb and Ken Hall (England) Slán Beo With The House On The Hill Peta Webb (England) Dog and Gun Mike Seeger (USA) Mr. Garfield Bascom Lunsford (USA) San Rafael Ali Chirinos (Venezuala) Travelin' Blues Blind Willie McTell (USA) I'm Tired The Bright Light Quartet (USA) John Henry Cephas & Wiggins (USA) An Joga Mhor Cháit Ní Mhuinbheacahin (Ireland) East Tennessee Blues Doc Watson/Bill Monroe (USA) Pretty Peggy-O Doug Wallin (USA) Dance Suite Dumitru Hirb and company (Romania) Where Could I Go But To The Lord Ernestine Washington with Bunk Johnson's Jazz Band (USA) 61 Highway Fred McDowell (USA) Hawkins County Gaol Hobart Smith (USA) Wild Rose of the Mountain J.P. Fraley (USA) Boo Baby's Lullaby Jerry Holland (Canada) Bonnie Udny Jock Duncan (Scotland) Wild Rose of the Mountain Joe Hutton (England) Edes Gazdam Dobogos Kukuscka Erno (Hungary) Ak Kaiin (White Birch) Kurmash Ibishev (Kazaksthan) La Blues de Port Arthur Leo Soileau (USA) Papa Wants a Cookie Leroy Carr (USA) Lady Mary Ann Lizzie Higgins (Scotland) The Bold Fenian Men Margaret Barry (Ireland) Reels; The Green Fields of America/The Swallow's Tail Michael Coleman (Ireland) Picong Duel Mighty Sparrow and Lord Melody (Trinidad) Fiollaigean (Choral céilidh song) Murdo Macleod/John Murray (Hebrides) New Minglewood Blues Noah Lewis's Jug Band (USA) The Plooman Laddies Norman Kennedy (Scotland) I'm a Good Looking Cossack Pawlo Humeniuk (Ukraine) The Rushes Green Phil McDermott (Ireland) Nomad's Flute Rajasthani Musicians (Rajasthan) Una Bhán Seán Jeaic McDonncha (Ireland Didn't It Rain Sister Rosetta Tharpe (USA) Tell Me Woman Blues Texas Alexander, vcl/King Oliver, cnt/Clarence Williams, pno/Eddie Lang, gtr (USA) The House Carpenter Texas Gladden (USA) A Nou, A Nou, Divke The Hilka Choir (Ukraine) Jigs; The Shaskeen/The Banks of Lough Gowna The Mulcahy Family (Ireland) Morning Train The Campbell Brothers (USA) Sing On The Eureka Brass Band (USA) Hornpipes; The Rights Of Man/The Honeysuckle Tommy Healy/Johnny Duffy (Ireland) Sweet Sunny South Tony Ellis (USA) Free At Last Vera Hall Ward/Dock Reed (USA) Mari Maro Yanka Rupkina (Bulgaria) BTW. This is a randomised list. Due to USA copyright restrictions, I'm unable to post things in their actual running order. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: John MacKenzie Date: 06 Sep 06 - 02:41 PM Can't download any of the stations I tried. G |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Sep 06 - 02:46 PM Fred, No luck with your links. My browser (or firewall) doesn't like the javascript in there. The short link goes to a popup page to download the Player365. Tell us more about the site, and if it is necessary to download and install a player. I think the first link doesn't work because you saved the URL script link that was established when you as a member logged on. We can't get there from here, as the saying goes. Good luck in getting this sorted out! SRS |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: John MacKenzie Date: 06 Sep 06 - 02:47 PM Well if it's a pop up then I won't get it, they're barred on my PC, and evermore shall be so. G. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 06 Sep 06 - 03:09 PM I've just gone into it without logging on, and from a different email address to the one I usually use. It asked me to download the Live 365 player, which I did. After a short pause followed by the Live365 announcement, the station started playing. I then tried the other route I mentioned. IE., I keyed in http://www.live365.com/index.live . That brings up a page on which can be seen a box labelled Find Stations That Play . Key Worlds Of Trad into the box. That brings up a second page with a long list of stations. Mine is at the top. Click Worlds Of Trad and my station page will appear. When it does, click the yellow speaker logo and a seperate window will come up. After a bit of noise, the station will start to play. I've just done it and Tony Ellis is singing Sweet Sunny South, even as I key this in. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Bill D Date: 06 Sep 06 - 04:34 PM Fred...much as I appreciate that these methods might work, I prefer stations that work without javascript OR IE and that have direct links that can be pasted into any of the fine players I already have. Any system that makes it difficult or impossible for me to use it without their specific software is pushing advertising over content, and I won't bite. There are plenty of choices that will play using Media Player Classic, VLCPlayer, JetAudio, BSPlayer...etc... using a .mms or UDP or HTTP address. Live365 embeds its actual address behind a complex address designed specifically to make it hard to find. sorry...looks good. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Date: 06 Sep 06 - 04:39 PM RadioBritfolk has no popups! |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Bill D Date: 06 Sep 06 - 04:41 PM even with my 'guards' disabled, all I get is a file labeled "play.pls", and the players don't recognize it. Evidently THEIR player can decipher the code and find the link.... |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 06 Sep 06 - 09:32 PM In order to get the station Fred cites, go to live365.com, search for worlds of trad and you should get it. I m a registered user (but not a preferred member) and listen to several folk, western and 50s music stations. Now I have WOT on my list. Thank you Fred. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Bill D Date: 06 Sep 06 - 10:14 PM "go to live365.com, search for worlds of trad..." I did ".. and you should get it." I didn't As I say, it **DEPENDS** on you following their routines, using the defaults that MicroSoft builds into their browsers. Or perhaps There are better ways, but those with vested interest in advertising and controlling the methods can make better ways hard to use. It's very much like offering free TV movies, but requiring you to use a certain brand of set to view them. I wouldn't even mind if they showed ads beside the links, but I have certain protocalls in place to protect against spam, viruses and hijacking, and Live365 seems to require that I turn OFF some of them. Either that, or **registration** is required, giving them an email address......cookies are one thing, handing out email to listen to music is another. as I say, there are many places that do not have these restrictions. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Bill D Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:09 PM If you do a Google search on "Live 365" + problems, you see a myriad of discussions, technical debates, help forums, explanations, and disclaimers on how & why to make it all work. On the other hand, if you go to WAMU you can hear a number of different programs by merely clicking...and in several different formats. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Desert Dancer Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:24 PM Bill D, cut Frank some slack. I believe he's doing this as an individual, not as part of a radio station, apparently Live365 provides a format that works for him to share his musical collection with interested parties. Maybe the player is not the best, but can you be more helpful and name an alternative for an individual to provide a service like this at no cost to themselves or the listeners? ~ Becky in Tucson |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:39 PM KKCR, Kaua'i Community Radio, Hawai'i, uses Live 365 as their entry to the internet. Since I am a fan of Hawaiian music, I am a registered user. I have not been bothered by an increase in spam as a result. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: artbrooks Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:47 PM I've never had much luck with "Live-365." For those who can't make it work, Folk Alley and Hober are both good streaming audio folk stations. There are also, as Bill D mentioned, many public radio stations that stream, and publicradiofan.com provides a real-time (if not always accurate) guide to what's on. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: GUEST,thurg Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:48 PM I just hooked onto it - no problem, and great music so far! |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Bill D Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:49 PM I assume you mean Fred?.......sorry if it sounds harsh, Becky...that's not the way I meant it. I'm very pleased to see the format and applaud the effort. It's just that he (and John on the Sunset Coast) make it seem like it 'ought' to be simple and obvious for everyone....which it is not. I was trying to explain why, as there may be others who experience the same problems I do. What Fred does is great....what Live365 does is manipulative....I hope that many people enjoy Fred's lineup, whether I can or not. What Live365 does solves some problems while creating others, and is similar to what RealAudio did and what MicroSoft used to do all the time....that is, get lots of people locked into their format and trivializing other, often superior, formats. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Desert Dancer Date: 07 Sep 06 - 12:59 AM Yes, sorry Fred (not Frank!). ~ B in T |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Inukshuk Date: 07 Sep 06 - 03:36 AM Great stuff! Thanks Fred |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 07 Sep 06 - 04:44 AM Great to hear that Worlds of Trad has generated some interest, even if it seems to have also raised some problems. I agree that Live 365 may not be the easiest station to operate, but if a technonerd like me can manage it, there's got to be hope for everybody else. Live 365 is a lot cheaper and a lot easier to set up than any other means of Internet broadcasting that I know about. And yes, there are adverts, which subscribers to the station can switch off, but how is the service to pay its way without them ? Personally, I think this music is important and deserves much wider exposure, which is why I set the station up. For the most part I won't be broadcasting mainstream folk or world music or roots or the kind of stuff which usually makes it onto the major record labels. I'll be using just a small portion of all the breathtaking stuff I've come across through a lifetime's delving into the local folk traditions of ordinary people from all over the world. So if you're having problems getting there, do please stick with it. My guess is you'll find it well worth the effort. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 07 Sep 06 - 04:58 AM Forgot add it but somebody mentioned station WAMU, Washington D.C. http://www.wamu.org/ There are several excellent programmes on that site, but most have live streaming only. There are at least two however which have listen again facilities and both are well worth picking up. IE. Dick Spottswood's Obsolete Music Show (13-00 to 15-00 hrs, Sundays) which features all manner of stuff, mostly from the pre-ww11 race and country and ethnic 78 catalogues. Bob Bamberger's Hot Jazz Saturday Night (Saturdays 19-00 to 22-00). Pre-ww11 jazz and swing. Both programmes are extremely well presented, and both presenters are extremely expert. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Murray MacLeod Date: 07 Sep 06 - 04:58 AM I've searched for |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 07 Sep 06 - 05:08 AM Search for Worlds of Trad. You can also add it as a station preset, which will mean you can go straight into it in future. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Mr Red Date: 07 Sep 06 - 12:36 PM Well I just clicked and it played - XP's pop-up blocker does not argue. Have I loaded software? I think I would notice if I had. I do look for these things. Task Manger only lists IE. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: open mike Date: 07 Sep 06 - 12:48 PM My station uses 365 live too. my show will be on this sunday Sept/. 10 from 1-3 pm pacific time...i will be co-hosting the Music Along the Feather (River) now listening to Worlds of Trad.. Mr. Garfield---- Bascom Lunsford . I have heard John Mc Cutcheon often speak of Bascom Lamar Lunsford . Good work, good show. I am a VIP member so i can listen to the station I work on....it is low power and reaches 5-10 miles, and i am 30 miles from the station. KRBS (radio bird street)is streaming thru there too. link can be found on www.radiobirdstreet.org by the way, the lines in the original post here extend waaaaaaaaaay past the end of the page....probably because of the URL? i added it to my pre-set list...the bookmark feature within the site.. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Dave Ruch Date: 07 Sep 06 - 01:46 PM Fred, What a great program you've put together. Your penchant for presenting "the local folk traditions of ordinary people from all over the world" is right up my alley. I've been enjoying it for about 2 hrs now.... Thanks! |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 08 Sep 06 - 04:11 AM Thanks Dave. I'd like to use that as a quote if I may. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Dave Ruch Date: 08 Sep 06 - 08:06 AM You certainly may. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Date: 08 Sep 06 - 10:20 AM Having set up two Scottish Storytelling stations on 365 in June, I seem to be getting over 200 listeners a month. Narow casting they call it. I now plan a station on Scottish Songwriting, supported by the New Makars Trust, and another for the Edinburgh Harp Festival next year. Costs are about £9 a month per station, which includes a copyright element. If I set up outwith 365 I have been quoted a PRS / MCPS [British copyright collection agencies]rate of £200 a year!! |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: katlaughing Date: 08 Sep 06 - 10:44 PM I am using Mozilla and have never had problems with Live 365. All I did was go to their website, type in Worlds of Trad and it was the first one that came up. Opened with Real Player, no problem. Sounds great! Ewan, that sounds wonderful. I really look forward to the Harp one. Will you please remind us when you get it up and running? Thanks, Fred. kat P.S. REALLY enjoying this, Fred. I esp. like your commentary. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: GUEST Date: 08 Sep 06 - 11:11 PM SEND E-swan your E-MAIL or post it to the thread. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Jim I Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:58 PM No problems here either Just typed in "Worlds of tTrad" Clicked on the speaker and there we went Thanks Fred See you round Abercromby some time! Jim |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 15 Oct 06 - 07:21 AM Jim, Ok., I give up. Where is Abercromby and why do you connect me with it ? Cheers, Fred. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: greg stephens Date: 15 Oct 06 - 08:44 AM Fred I don't have a computer so can't listen to this at the moment. But I would just like to say your playlist looks absolutely fabulous. The tracks I am familiar with are all great, so statistically speaking I am convinced i would love all the others. You and me would have a great time going through each other's collections. Just to whet your appetite, I have a recording made in 1965 of Aubrey Cantwell singing "The Nightingale" in the Bell in Standlake, Oxfordshire. Never issued on anything. Have you heard Joe Scurfield's recording of a session at Canute Calliste's house on Karriacou(W Indies)?. That might be a little too hardcore evening for your programme! |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: greg stephens Date: 15 Oct 06 - 08:46 AM Sorry. In the last sentence, that should be "even", not "evening". |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: GUEST,JimP Date: 15 Oct 06 - 12:27 PM OK, for those of you who are having pop-up problems (and are using Windows), try this: Start Windows Media Player Click on the red circular button labled "365" located on the tab in the upper-right corner of the screen, under the windows close/minimize/maximize boxes, then click on Live 365 on the menue that should appear. If you don't see such a button, click on the ">>" that should appear in approximately the same location, and then click on the Live 365 menu item. You should be taken to a list of Genres, where you can click on "folk." Bear in mind that while browser like, WMP isn't a browser, and it can be pretty slow when navigating through the pages. I should say that I couldn't find the station under "folk," but when I searched on "trad" from the main page, it came up as the second result. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 15 Oct 06 - 01:56 PM Greg. I wondered for a minute how you keep up with Mudcat and Mustrad, and then I remembered there are such things as Internet cafes. In any event, I hope you're not sans computer for too long. Jim. Thanks for the tip on pop ups. I hadn't noticed that one. If you need to search for the station, the best way is to key "Worlds of Trad" into the search box that says Find Stations That Play. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 02 Nov 06 - 11:15 AM I've just uploaded the new monthly playlist to my WORLDS OF TRAD Internet radio station at http://www.live365.com/stations/oneworldmusic . The list is below. To listen to the station, click the above link, and then click the yellow and black horn button. The next upload will be Wednesday 6th December. If anyone would like to be told of future uploads direct, please send a blank email to this address, Fredlive365@aol.com , with the words Add Me in the subject line Worlds of Trad November Playlist, Amadu Faal Dembo Konte/Malimini Jobarteh World Circuit WWCD005 Barney Grimes and his wife (Going to the well for water) John Campbell Betepotepo D' Gary (Ernesto Randrianasolo) Shanacie 65009 Burgundy Street Blues George Lewis Riverside OJCCD-1736-2 Cana: Yo Soy Seneca En El Saber Pepe Marchena Chant du Monde LDX 274912 Chingis Haani Magtaal (Song in Praise of Genghis Khan) Egschiglen Heaven and Earth HE 4 The Coo-coo bird Clarence Ashley, vcl, bjo Smithsonian Folkways SFW 40090 Doggone My Good Luck Soul Hattie Hudson, vcl/Willie Tyson pno Magpie PYCD 15 Early in the morning 22/LITTLE RED/TANGLE EYE/HARD HAIR Rounder CD 1714 Fiesta de Jerez Carmen Amaya Chant du Monde LDX 274880 Guajira Ramon Montoya Chant du Monde LDX 274879 Hard Time Killing Floor Blues Skip James Vanguard VMCD 7310 Jigs: Happy to Meet and Sorry to Part/Paddy In London Joe Burke, accdn/Michael Cooney, pipes/Terry Corcoran, gtr Green Linnet GLCD 1069 Liam O Raghallaigh Mary Bergin, wstl Gael Linn CEFCD 071 Little Bittie Gal's Blues Joe Turner/Pete Johnson Indigo IGOCD 2118Z Long Ago Blues Henry Townsend Catfish KATCD 172 Lorquenas: Esquilones de Plata Pastora Pavón Chant du Monde LDX 274859 Masanga Jean Bosco Mwenda Yazoo 7015 Morpeth Rant Bob Cann/Mark Bazely (cnta) Veteran VT138CD Muzsikas Magyarbecei Oreges Csardasok Hannibal HNCD 1439 O'Connell's/The Mountain Lark/The Cloone Reel/Bernie McKiernan's Dream The McNamara Family Drumlin LHTCD 1 Oh dear Mama, I Want To get Married Women Workers of the Po Valley Auvidis B 6846 Oh Where, Oh Where Charlotte Renals Veteran VT119CD Old Rattler The Stanley Brothers King KBSCD-7000 Old Rattler Clear Rock et al Rounder 11661-1826-2 One Dime Blues Etta Baker Tradition TCD 1061 Pan American Boogie Delmore Brothers Jasmine JASMCD 3519 Pan American Express DeFord Bailey Trikont US - 0276 Panihari Pempa etc Topic TSCD 903 Polkas: Rose Anne's/The Old One/The Rambling Sailor Jackie Daly, accdn/Paul De Grae, gtr Gael Linn CEFCD 176 Querida Mujer Los Campesinos de Michoacan Arhoolie CD 9035 Reel of Mullinavat/The Whistling Postman/The Chattering Magpie Chris Droney Claddagh CICD 161 Rollin' and Tumblin' Napoleon Strickland et al Testament TCD 5017 Rosie CB and Gang Rounder CD 1714 Royal Comrade Amy Birch Topic TSCD 661 Saltarello Emilio & Dominico Ruffo Topic TSCD 903 Sidney's Blues Sidney Bechet Bluebird ND86590 Slip Jigs; The Arragh Mountains/Father Burke's Paddy O'Brien, accdn/Séamus Connolly, fdl/Charlie Lennon, Pno Green Linnet GLCD 3082 Strange Fruit Sidney Bechet Trio Bluebird ND86590 Sunny Mountain Chimes Sonny Osborne Crosscut CR 1042 The Kilfenora Jig The Tulla Ceili Band Dublin Records DU 1000 The Stool of Repentance Fiddle and Mouth Organ Bothy Band Greentrax CDTRAX 9001 The Train Goes Down The Track Thao Salilith Unesco/Auvidis D8105 TORUKTUG DOLGAI TANGDIM Kongar Ondar, vcl, tyanzi/Kaigal-ool Khovalig, vcl, igil, amirga/Gennadi Tumat, vcl, doshpulur Silex Y225222 You'd Better Get Right Little Darlin' The New York City Ramblers Vanguard VCD 77006-2 |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Mr Happy Date: 06 Jan 08 - 07:46 AM http://www.live365.com/stations/oneworldmusic |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: GUEST,donegalfiddlefan Date: 06 Jan 08 - 12:01 PM Hi Fred if you are into the local folk traditions of ordinary people from all over the world check out The Road to Glenlough by James Byrne from Glencolmcille in County Donegal,Ireland (Claddagh Records CC52CD). He also features on The Brass Fiddle also by Claddagh Records. Read an interview with James on www.standingstones.com/jbyrne.html |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 06 Jan 08 - 01:14 PM Haven't caught up with TRTG yet I'm afraid, but I do have a copy of The Brass Fiddle. If I've got enough space in the next programme upload (due this Wednesday), I'll play a track from it. If not, I'll be sure to squeeze it in next month. |
Subject: RE: New Trad Music Internet Radio Station From: Fred McCormick Date: 07 Jan 08 - 04:36 AM Sorry, allow me to correct that last posting. I do have a copy of The Road To Glendalough. It's on vinyl, and is part of a large collection which was left to me a couple of years ago and which I'm steadily working my way through. So, space permitting, I'll be including a track from it in the next upload. |
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