BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?

Subject: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:06 PM

On certain threads when I hit "submit" I get an error screen. When I try to go "Back", my typed post has disappeared and the dialogue box is blank, so I must type the post over again. It happens again and again, so I give up. Then on another thread it works okay. Then on yet another thread it screws up again and my post disappears.

What is going on here?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: bobad
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:13 PM

Gee, never happens to me, maybe max installed a logorrhea limiter.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:16 PM

It must have been something you said.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:16 PM

bobad, you do mean 'a way with words', right? Right? :)

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:18 PM

You can't go back.

I've gotten the error message quite a lot in the last few days. If I hit 'refresh/reload' I'm informed that it can't do that unless I resend the information, do I want to do that? I click ok or yes or whatever, then te message goes through.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: GUEST,ibo
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:22 PM

No,my posts are still arriving,mostly bills and junk mail/

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:22 PM

Aha you have stumbled across a phenomena known as the BLACK HOLE THREAD. They don't actually disappear though...oh no...nothing as simple. They whoosh into outer space at a speed immeasurable in human terms and there they stay.

Until, slowly slowly catch the monkey, they home in on each other. By developing the ability to emit high pitched beeping, only audible to other posts, they have discovered the ability to 're-group.' Still with me?

These highly sophisticated posts then form themselves into THREADS. They categorise and prioritise and wait...........

Light years from now these THREADS will form into FORUMS.

If their higher powers continue to evolve to a peak as yet unknown to man, we can only hope that from the eerie ether of blackness we will hear a soft wailing sound. At first just a solitary wail. But it will grow and strengthen.

These wails form into MODS.

Then the whole process goes tits up and we are left with a life form similar to a barnacle.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: bobad
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:23 PM

Uh... Ebbie, a "way with words" limiter?

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: bobad
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:26 PM

Thanks GUEST, now I understand string theory.....I think.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:28 PM

What is going on here?

You are just trying to make out that your posts get special treatment from our 'moderators' too.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:56 PM

Oh, really? You wound me, Shambles. ;-) I am trying to make out that there is a software (or hardware) problem on this forum, most likely.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 08:04 PM

One that is well known is a sort of "spam filter" certain words at certain times can cause posts not to take.

Points 2 and 3 by Max in the 503 error thread may be relavant.

"2. Spam is increasing. We get hammered every day with thousands upon thousands of attacks from people and worms and spiders trying to use our site for nothing we want. We usually have more manpower to deal with it, but:

3. We're down a very key member of our staff due to an ongoing family emergency. Our planned upgrade for the 10th anniversary includes a great deal of behind the scenes defense systems, but is delayed due to this issue that I will talk more about pretty soon."

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 08:14 PM

Hmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 08:20 PM

MiniRaptor, I know whatya mean, I lost one post to it last eve, but that post was really no loss to anyone. I had a spell some time back when I couldn't type more than about three words in a post without a "you have been disconnected"; turned out that time that it wasn't the Mudcat; it was a faulty ground on our telephone hookup that didn't become obvious on phone calls until it got a lot worse. But someone here suggested (the obvious, I suppose) copying my posts (as in hit edit, hit copy) before submitting, and that has saved me a whole lot of gnashing of teeth.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 10:27 PM

So, if your posts vanish (as mine too have recently), make a copy and paste it in over and over until it takes.

Also, I strongly suspect that posts sometimes collide ("packet collisions") and that there is no way at present to have one back off and do an "after you, Alphonse" thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 11:06 PM

If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
and the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
and the address of the memory
makes your floppy disk abort
then the socket packet pocket
has an error to report!

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 11:21 PM

It doesn't happen to me, because I use the Opera browser....as long as the browser isn't closed, the posts are still there, whether I go forward or back. Sometimes my post doesn't 'send'...for reasons I don't understand, but I can always go 'back' and get it and copy it to resend later.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 03:30 AM

I would get an expert on missing and maliciously removed posts to investigate this. Now I wonder who we could ask?
G.

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 04:50 AM

logorrhea limiter sounds like an interesting idea, but why would it filter out Little Hawk?

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 04:50 AM

If you type something long and profound, take a moment to highlight and copy [CTRL-C] it onto your Windows Clipboard. Then, if it gets lost, all you have to do is paste [CTRL-V] it into a "reply" box and submit again.

Not that I remember to do this....

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Anyone else's posts disappearing?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 05:24 AM

As Joe O suggests, one should never hit "Submit" without first doing the Ctl-A (select all), Ctl-C (copy) routine so that if things go awry one can Ctl-V (paste) without recomposing.

Oversimplifying greatly:

An error, when the site has gone offline and is NOT PRESENT, will usually result in your Back button looking on your own machine (i.e. reverting to working offline) to display what was up on the last previous screen from your Internet Temp folder. If you can re-connect, you can often proceed again in the forward direction.

(A good way to reconnect, for those of us stuck in the dial-up world, is just to open a NEW INSTANCE of the browser, leaving the screen you got with the Back button intact. When the connection is confirmed, the new browser instance can be closed and you can proceed from the backed-out original browser window. ... Sometimes.)

An error, when the site is present and accessible, usually will let you go back to the previous screen. This happens if your Submit drops a few bits, or clashes with other traffic on the server, or gets mangled in some other mysterious way. What you may have typed in that screen will be recovered from your Internet Temp folder just as above.

An error, when the site is "present" but NOT ACCESSIBLE, will usually upchuck and lose it all. The request for the previous page is "answered" with another error message which must be displayed instead of the previous page, which prevents your machine from resorting to the "offline" page in your Internet Temp folder. This is usually the case with the "503 Error" that's the subject of another current thread.

John