BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 05:56 PM

I think firing was a bit extreme. If she were on duty, which, presumably she was, a severe reprimand may have been in order.

On the other hand, it was much too good an opportunity to pass up!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: pdq
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 05:39 PM

She was working for a school district at the time. She was expected to do her job and behave in a respectable manor. She did not. Bye bye.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 05:33 PM

Giving the finger doesn't teach kids anything.

Now had she followed it up with a carefully worded lecture on how they are to act responsibly when they reach voting age and not put another idiot in the house, well then she should have got a promotion for services to the rest of the world.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 05:24 PM

Woman deserves a medal. Do me a favour, busloads of kids have never seen anyone given the finger?

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:51 PM

Presumably if she had given him the thmbs up instead she would have deserved to be fired as well? I would imagine that a lot of parents would have regarded that as grossly offensive.

If it happened over here the gesture involved would have been the V sign - which makes for a certain ambiguity.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Deckman
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:49 PM

YES!

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:40 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that there is no right moment for obscene gestures?

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: kendall
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:32 PM

What Wolfgang said.

In some states that gesture is considered simple assault.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Deckman
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:32 PM

She should be given a raise ... and put in charge of driver training!

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:26 PM

I find obscene gestures offensive whoever they are aimed at.

Yes, she deserved to be fired for doing that with kids in her care.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:25 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:16 PM

well put Wolfgang!

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Wolfgang
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:11 PM

Bush deserves the finger and she deserves to be fired.
It was not the correct moment for a well deserved sign.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:11 PM

If she gave the finger to a soccer mom or a little old lady crossing the street, would you feel different if she were fired?

There is a time and place to give Bush the finger. I don't think in front of a busload of children that are in her care was the proper place.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Bernard
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 04:04 PM

I have to agree that it's the wrong message in front of children. Maybe a reprimand would have been more appropriate, but we probably aren't in full possession of the facts...

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Peace
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:59 PM

Not yet!

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:56 PM

Fired? so what in some countries she could be tortured.

well, she could be legally tortured in this country too but she wasn't.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:54 PM

Firing seems a bit extreme. Also, how do we know the children could see her gesture? While I agree, adults need to set a good example, but these days the gesture itself seems to be quite prevalent, among children as well as adults. It seems to have lost some of its impact in society through overuse, imo.

When I was a kid, the bus driver who was angry and slammed on his breaks to make a point, causing me to chip a tooth when my mouth hit the railing in front of me, wasn't even reprimanded, let alone fired.

I hope she gets her job back, if she wants it, even if she has to be written up in her file.

Another part of me, says "Right on Sister! Let's go dump some tea!"

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Mooh
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:45 PM

Constitutes a verbal reprimand in many workplaces, and often worth it too, though one needs to be careful how many verbals one collects. I take it the driver wasn't unionized?

Under the circumstances, she should be rewarded, but it's not a fair world is it.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:43 PM

I disagree. If she were on her own time I'd support her all the way. But she was on the job. Adults are supposed to be able to control themselves. I would have fired her too.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:41 PM

I suppose I'm going to get jumped all over for this, but ... if you are in the employ of a school board and working with the kids, there are some things you just don't do. You don't tell them about your sexual fantasies, you don't give them the details of your wild weekend, you don't sell them cigarettes, you don't tell them mailicious gossip about their teachers, you don't use foul language in front of them, and you don't make obscene gestures to people you don't like in front of them. If you're determined to do any of those things, you probably run the risk of being fired. Tough luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Becca72
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:35 PM

It shouldn't matter. We have bus drivers here in Maine that endanger the lives of the children on the bus every day with their poor driving skills (speeding, running red lights, etc.) and they are able to keep their jobs. This woman should not be fired for expressing her opinion of the president. How many of those kids have seen their parents give that very same gesture to fellow motorists?

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:21 PM

She did not use the index finger.
                                        SOL

Subject: RE: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Peace
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:18 PM

I hope they do represent her. All she has to do is say, "I was simply telling President Bush that he's number one in my book."

Subject: BS: Driver Fired For Giving 'W' The Finger
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 03:15 PM

I heard the following report on CBS News Radio today.

While Pres. Bush was campaigning last week in Wisconsin, his motorcade passed a school bus loaded with kids. He wanted to give the kids a thrill so he rolled down the window of his limo and waved to them. The female bus driver gave Bush the finger in return. Yesterday, the school board informed her that she was fired. The reason given was that because she engaged in a vulgar sexual innuendo she was unfit to drive young school children. She is asking the ACLU to go to court for her to protect her first ammendment rights.

                                                 SOL ZELLER