BS: Should they top Saddam?

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: alanabit
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 04:54 AM

That's it George. It is also what the revenge mob wants - a slow, lingering death.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 04:02 AM

Agree, Alan. Greg, no "special exceptions" - it's the thin end of the wedge, because how do you codify where you draw the line?

No - incarceration for life is the answer.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 03:59 AM

A few weeks of community service would sort him out. He just needs to live for a while amongst people who could lead by example. he can change my guitar strings for a start.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: alanabit
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 03:44 AM

The fact that Saddam certainly deserves to be topped does not give us any excuse to do so. The riff raff, which was killed at Nürnberg also richly deserved their fate, but history can see it for what it was - "victor's justice". I feel rather the same as Greg. I recall that when Ceacescu was murdered, I was not able to condone it outright, but I did not grieve for him for very long. Greg Stephens is right when he says that imprisonment presents large logistical problems. On the other hand, executions always undermine the credibility of the "justice" system - and that is the last thing which Iraq needs at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 03:26 AM

Bobert - 04 Nov 06 - 07:38 PM

"Ummmm, given that fact that the current governemnt in Iraq is not a legit government"

All should note that this is a Bobert Fact - i.e. totally incorrect.

Decision was made a long, long time ago that if deposed and captured the fate of Saddam Hussein would be decided under Iraqi Law, by Iraqi courts, and by the Iraqi people.

Although generally opposed to the death penalty, in the case of Saddam Hussein and his entourage they fully deserve it.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 05 Nov 06 - 02:54 AM

No sense killin' the guy. It'll just empower him in the minds of a lotta people and make him a martyr. I ain't particularly in favor of capital punishment, cos you don't end evil by imitatin' it. You kill someone face-to-face on a battlefield where the odds are even, that's one thing, but killin' a prisoner who can't defend himself or fight back is just plain, outright murder, and it ain't justified. Never. And just cos he did it do someone else, that don't make it right for you to do it to him. Murder is murder. You can't get around that. If you don't like it, don't do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 11:38 PM

Taking into account their past performances, surely only Bush could top Saddam?

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 09:07 PM

Hiders In Caves

These hiders from light
Talk boldly of fight
They tell an unconvincing story

These hiders in caves
Send young men to their graves
To die, they believe in glory


What is this cause?
These holy wars!
You may choose to pay the ultimate price
But do the misused?
Have the right to choose?
Those who will share their sacrifice?


These hiders in holes
These sellers of souls
These market dealers in doom

Hiders behind skirts
They nurture their hurts
With arms that reach out from the gloom


Why the cry?
An eye for an eye!
That retribution be both swift and ruthless?
Is it the master plan?
That each and every land
Be filled with the blinded and the toothless?


These hiders can lie
The dark blinding their eyes
Safe from those that would kill them

These hiders may hide
They're safe inside
Let them have their holes……and then fill them

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 09:04 PM

When they found him hiding in his hole - perhaps the best thing would have been to just quietly filled it in and left him there?

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 08:56 PM

I have always been implacably opposed to the death penalty. But Saddam, like the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials? Maybe a special case? Hitler and Mussolini in prisons serving life sentences would have presented difficult political problems. A very complex moral judgement.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 07:38 PM

Ummmm, given that fact that the current governemnt in Iraq is not a legit government, I would think that any verdict, innocent or guilty, against Saddam is bogus...

Saddam should have been sent out of Iraq to be tried, or not, at some future date when the US no longer calls the shots within the illegit governemnt in Iraq and there is something that closer resembles a real government...

Actually, if I had it my way, I'd just as soon have Saddam back in power...He was a pussy cat when treated right... All he ever wanted from the US was a few gifts and a pat on the back... We could have manipulated him into being a better dictator...

But no... Karl Rove had Bush attack Iraq so that Bush and his guys could continue to hold power here in the US so that their corporate bed-buds could continue to redistribute wealth away from the middle class toward Boss Hog...

Worked until it didn't...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 06:57 PM

I thought the Iraquis are comfortable with capital punishment? Much like the USA.

Subject: RE: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 06:53 PM

They'll probably elect him US Repblican President.

Subject: BS: Should they top Saddam?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 06:48 PM

I think the aftermath of doing so would be more bloodshed and instant martyrdom.

Strange seeing some professional and educated Iraqis being interviewed and hoping that the death sentence is passed. Has barbarity become so common to them they feel the need to seek revenge in like.