BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: kendall
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 04:25 PM

As I understand it, he answered the question about having sex with Monica using the tribunals own definition which did not include oral sex. Sure he acted like a lawyer, sure he knew what they wanted. They just didn't ask if he actually laid her.

Hillary will never be elected president.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 03:58 PM

Cruiser, let me guess, you're a Christian, right? What about forgiveness? Isn't that an admirable virtue? You would punish her for what he did? That woman endured with grace and dignity what had to be one of the most publicly humiliating experiences in politics. Like her or hate her, she has my respect for the dignity she displayed.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Scoville
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 03:17 PM

The Hillary joke I knew was:

Q) Have you heard of the KFC Hillary bucket of chicken?

A) It includes two large thighs, two small breasts, and a left wing.

Very popular for awhile in Texas. Lovely.




Oh, please--as if Clinton was the first President ever to cheat on his wife (doesn't seem to have hurt Kennedy's memory much). It was nobody's business but their own and it was a no-win situation. If she had divorced him, they would have bad-mouthed them both anyway (family values, Biblical decrees, and all that). I don't respect what he did but he's hardly alone and it wasn't illegal, and it shouldn't have overshadowed all the things he did or tried to do that actually made a social or political difference. It was sheer voyeurism.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 03:08 PM

The joke, by the way, has been told for decades about various Personages with attitudes.

I think the Right is scared of her because she wanted a better health care system and that means more overhead and a ding in profit profiles.

I know very little about her, personally, except that she is certainly a political animal, which is a warning sign. And she obviosully has excellent taste in social engagements, as evidenced by Little Hawk's previous post....




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Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 03:01 PM

Had Hillary denounced and divorced Mr. Clinton she might have been given the respect she deserves and I would have most likely voted for her.

Mightn't it be a nice change for you to have a President who believes in keeping a solemn promise? In this case "Till death us do part".

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:55 PM

Oh, Cruiser! For Pete's sake! He gave in to temptation in a very similar way to what millions do every day! DIVORCE? Over a young twit with delusions of grandeur? Moral 'standards' are fine, but arbitrary moral standards imposed from outside and overriding all other considerations of competence and reason just make no sense in this world. That level of sexual behavior, measured against Bill Clinton's other abilities and their 30+ years of marriage should not be relevant. (And whatever YOU think, they talked about it and decided not to break up their marriage based on Monica's debatable charms.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: frogprince
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:55 PM

I really never have been able to grasp why right wing people foam at the mouth the way they do when discussing Hillary. I've heard radio commentators rant not just at her but at anyone who so much as dared make a polite civil public reference to her.

Not too long ago I saw a rerun of the long-ago tv special with Jackie Kennedy showing an interviewer around the White House. I realized then that, over all the years, I had somehow missed hearing Jackie say more than a stray word. I was almost dumbfounded to hear how much she sounded like a cross between a Stepford wife and a Marilyn Monroe imitation. But public response to her seemed to range from warm acceptance to utter worship.

Does the comparison tell us what America wants in its' First Ladies?

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:52 PM

Nothing but this: she has not replied to any of my love letters, and she stood me up for our date at the Thai restaurant last month.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:51 PM

Cruiser, to me it appears that your view is a flat, black and white one. With that view I can see why you might feel that way, but from my view life is chock full of subtleties and nuances and conflicted issues.

It is entirely possible to love someone- and to cheat on him, or her. It is entirely possible to love someone- and to recognize the value in your life of him or her and to have that overbalance the heartwrenching things that person is capable of doing.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: GUEST,MarkS
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:47 PM

Don't know much about Hillary one way or the other. Can't see that she is responsible for any accomplishment at all. Hillary has great name recognition, but other than that she is simply the junior senator from New York without much of a legislative track record.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:43 PM

Had Hillary denounced and divorced Mr. Clinton she might have been given the respect she deserves and I would have most likely voted for her. Now, I cannot watch news reports of her and Bill standing side-by-side smiling and waving to admiring throngs of people.   

I am astounded that people respect Clinton after what he did to disgrace the office of the presidency and sending the massage out to young girls worldwide that oral sex is not sex.

There are limits to what is acceptable behavior and Clinton should be a social pariah; he instead is lauded and lavished with high speaking fees.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:40 PM

Well, I'm confused at the notion that she needs to have no faults in order to be considered.

She seems like an intelligent woman who knows the issues, and I think she could probably handle the job.

That joke is a VERY hard exaggeration of what 'some' people think about her attitude. It's getting so that any candidate who has character immediately has that character inflated, distorted and ridiculed; leaving us with bland folks who hide most of their opinions until they get elected.

   I would ask: If you DON'T like Hilary, which male candidate has better ideas and a better attitude? If you know one, vote for him, but stop ridiculing a woman who OBVIOUSLY has a great deal of competance.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:38 PM

Nothing. She will never be President, but who cares. Neither will anyone here.

Subject: RE: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Scoville
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:32 PM

I don't really have anything against her except that she has said she won't vote for gay marriage, but that may be as much political as personal. I'm disgusted with people who don't like her because she's not a traditional wifey First Lady like Laura Bush--blech. I don't "identify" with her--I'm not the ambitious career-woman type--but I'm glad some women are and I don't think they should be bad-mouthed for it.

Subject: BS: What do YOU Have Against Hillary?
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 02:26 PM

This joke made me laugh but it also reminds me that I wonder just what it is that Americans, et al, have against Hillary Clinton. My opinion is that she is NOT electable in the foreseen future but that she might be a powerful president if she ever is. She is bright, assertive, not to say aggressive, she has had her share of adversity but also her share of sweetness in her life, she is pragmatic but has ideals, she and Bill have raised an excellent child, she knows how to persevere...

The joke goes:

"Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Al Gore were in an airplane that
crashed.

"They're up in Heaven, and God's sitting on the great white throne.
God addresses Al first. "Al, what do you believe in?"

"Al replies, "Well, I believe I won that election, but that it was
your will that I did not serve. And I've come to understand that now."
"God thinks for a second and says, "Okay, very good. Come and sit at
my left."

"God then addresses Bill. "Bill, what do you believe in?"
Bill replies, "I believe in forgiveness. I've sinned, but I've never
held a grudge against my fellow man, and I hope no grudges are held
against me."

"God thinks for a second and says, "You are forgiven, my son. Come
and sit at my right."

"God then addresses Hillary. "Hillary, what do you believe in?"
"I believe you're in my chair."