BS: Microdermabrasion

Subject: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 12:49 PM

I found the neatest little kit on sale with a battery operated dermabrasion tool, a grainy cream, several sponge heads and a book of directions. After two treatments, I see a noticeable difference in my skin and my feet are actually soft and pink. So...am I going to wake up in the Emergency Ward any time soon? Anyone using DermaNew? Any suggestions? Warnings?

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: jeffp
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 12:55 PM

Don't overdo it. You'll end up looking to young to get the bourbon for my bourbon balls.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 12:58 PM

If you want to play dermatologist, go for it. I dunno how much education they have to have, to be able to qualify for malpractice insurance, but what the heck, right? You can cover your self-lawsuit when your face falls off?

Or, for a preview of possible results longterm, look at anyone your age who got too much suntanning when they were in their nubile years. Pretty! You too can look like that! Step right up.

See my point?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 01:21 PM

There are several ways of removing old dead skin; various fine-grit scrapers are the most common tools found in the cosmetic section.

My wife uses one occasionally and puts it on the bathtub shelf, but it always seems to fall in, and I end up stepping on it and cussing.

Sounds like a great invention. How strong is the battery? If I gave one to my wife would she electrocute herself and solve the problem permanently?

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: gnu
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 01:28 PM

But, she IS in her nubile years.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: LilyFestre
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 02:53 PM

Sins,

   Just use moderation and if the cream is new to you, try it on just a small spot for a week or so just to make sure you won't have any reactions. :)

A nice thing for your hands is to take a small bit of warm almond oil in your hands, add a sugar cube or two and rub together (gently) until the sugar cube is disolved. Rinse with warm water and pat dry with a fluffy towel (preferably warm right out of the dryer). Your hands will look and feel wonderful!   :)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Amos
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 02:58 PM

But no matter how much cream and how many batteries you go through, your past guilts will not be relieved, scrub though you may---not by all the perfumes in Arabia, my dear lady!!!!!


Amos and Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 03:37 PM

Microdermabrasion?
Wonderful what new tems the marketing people come up with!
I call it sanding.

The principle of using a finely graded rough surface is tried and tested. Lumps of pumice stone have been removing rough old dried skin from feet (probably) since Pompeii was buried in the stuff.

Ever since the days when I used to dry stone wall in streams, I have found wet-and-dry paper (about 400 grade grit) useful for taking rough skin down to smooth, followed by a decent hand cream.

The technical thing is that the dry rough skin is dead and can be removed by sandpaper. Once you start to get to the "live" skin, it alters in texture and does not sand off in the way old dry stuff does. When you reach that point, you can stop.
It also works for removing hairs - the ones on your toes (especially useful for the well groomed hobbit).

Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: JenEllen
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 03:44 PM

I swear by the St. Ives' apricot skin scrub. Daily mini-microdermabrasion. Between that and the Burt's Bees repair serum, I don't look a day over 34. *bg*
On the serious side, common sense. If it starts hurting (redness, flaking, whatever) quit doin' it.

~JE

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 04:07 PM

Geoff does an excellent job on my legs too!

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 06:57 PM

Geoff,
They used to sell sand paper mitts as a French Depilation System for an extravagant amount of money. Worked well on legs too. Lucky Jane. A man who plays the banjo and sands legs. You must lead a good life, lady.
JenEllen,
I too swear by St. Ives. I should have explained. This is not an attempt to look younger. It is an attempt to gain control over my nubile (bless you, gnu) complexion. I occasionally get a facial to help keep my pores clean and unblocked but I simply can't afford it every week. Nature is a vicious bitch. The same oil that keeps me looking 34, just like JenEllen,(shut up Amos!) has taken to causing major breakouts since menopause. Yes, I did the spot test - always do since Nair turned my upper lip into a red and swollen scab.
WYSIWYG,
I am not sure what you are going on about. This is a mild abrasive moisturizing cream not an acid peel. One step above St. Ives' Apricot Scrub.
So no one has used this?
SINS, all aglow.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:01 PM

Note: When I was working I could afford weekly manicures and pedicures. The pedicure staple in NYC is a mixture of plain old sugar and a few drops of vegetable oil mixed into a paste. This was made by the tubful and used with a hand cream on a pumice stone to smooth feet. Cheap and effective.
Similar to Lily's idea. Thanks Lily.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: bobad
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:13 PM

Is there a compelling reason to remove dead skin cells by these exotic methods? I believe they will drop off by themselves as new growth takes place in the various dermal layers as nature intended.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:34 PM

Not with oily skin, bobad. They build up even with twice daily Apricot Scrub and block pores causing pimples, big white and red screaming pimples!

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Lox
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:41 PM

I agree that a little caution might be well observed.
It's a relatively new product unless I'm much mistaken.

Comparable perhaps to "whitening" toothpaste. A good idea every few days in conjunction with it's duller but healthier cousin, but not to be used everyday lest the enamel be scrubbed away.

Perhaps when you're going out, but don't allow yourself to feel that without it you look bad. That might be the beginning of a culturally imposed dependancy.

You are beautiful on the inside babes. On this site that's the only part we see.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:52 PM

That's almost funny. Lox. I carry more than a few extra pounds, the hair is going gray, and the feet can't handle high heels anymore. Not likely to let my lack of a fresh scraping stand in my way.
SINS, who, by the way, is the most beautiful she has ever been because she is happy.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Kaleea
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 08:07 PM

Seems to me that after a couple of treatments of double martinis, the fellers think I look pretty good to them.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Lox
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 08:20 PM

well that changes my fantasy a little but ... what the hell ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 08:24 PM

Kaleea,
Who drinks the double martinis?
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Lox
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 08:27 PM

... *hic* ...

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: JenEllen
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 12:49 PM

Sins, have you tried the Burts Bees clay mask? Here, it's like $8 a jar and it lasts a long time. You mix the powder with a little bit of water and wear the mask until it dries. It really helps me with the oil/pore thingies. Once a week does it.

I've never tried the microdermabrasion wheel contraption. Other gals in the office swear by it, but I just haven't gotten comfortable with the idea yet. Honestly, whatever makes you shine, go for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: kendall
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 09:40 AM

The best beauty treatment ever created is attitude. Happy well adjusted people are far more attractive than grumpy mal contents who find fault with everything and everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 11:16 AM

Yeah, SINS, kendall understands. Just try to be a little nicer and you'll have banjo players knocking each other's remaining teeth out for a date.

WYS, "Once your face falls off" ??!!

This isn't the Michael Jackson "Face in a Box" with the do-it-yourself nose job kit, including a cute little hand-held belt sander and itty bitty bone chisel!?

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 12:09 PM

Seriously, I don't think dermabrasion can hurt unless you sand too much off and feel pain, or you don't use sunscreen and hang around outside a lot. It gets rid of a load of dead cells and massages the skin, increasing circulation.

Dead skin cells don't come off until you rub them off or do something similar. Faces don't see that much action, so the cells tend to accumulate, even with washing. If dead skin is just falling off your face, you have face dandruff and something really weird is going on. It's worse in the winter for me. I think my skin is trying ot overcompensate for the dryness and coldness of the air, but maybe I just notice it more. I'm starting to love hot, humid summer days...

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 12:13 PM

Kendall,
I am not called Mary Sunshine for nothing. Attitude is everything.
No Jeri, I missed the sale on the MJ kit. This just polishes off the dead cells and polishes in moisturizers. Didn't I look 15 years younger at Thanksgiving?
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 03:43 PM

I'd have thought if it doesn't come off with a scrub from a face flannel it's not meant to come off.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 07:54 PM

Obviously, you don't wear waterproof mascara, McGrath.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 08:23 PM

You have me there. Scrub proof with a face cloth as well? Sort of welded on... And you have to use "a battery operated dermabrasion tool" to shift it. "I don't think dermabrasion can hurt unless you sand too much off and feel pain"

Scary stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 06 - 08:30 PM

Mary, you were positively radiant. (15 years younger than whom?)

McGrath, you could back up yet another step, and ask why one should need to scrub at all.

I have this body scrub I bought that has sea salt as the abrasive. Maybe sugar crystals are smaller, or something. I've also thought it would be nice to have socks that would have warm sand inside to get rid of spare callus on feet. Wouldn't it be nice to have the feel of walking on a sun-warmed beach in the middle of winter?

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 12:59 AM

Most of those things aren't supposed to be used near your eyes--that's the main precaution I would make sure to take. That skin is the thinnest on your body, according to my ophthalmologist. I think it feels pretty good to use some of those scrubs--I also have the St. Ives scrub (great products for a reasonable price--I love some of their hand and face lotions).

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: kendall
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 08:35 AM

Men, aint we lucky that we are not bound by such "needs"?

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 08:38 AM

I told Kendall that some men do use these things.

He muttered "They may be male but they ain't men!"

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Nov 06 - 06:16 PM

I think he'd be surprised by all of the cosmetics and treatments men have access to and use these days.

More choir shirts! Google must be gasping for air also. Maybe it needs a different clue:

Noxema
Ponds cold cream
Oil of Olay
Este Lauder
Max Factor


Noxema
Ponds cold cream
Oil of Olay
Este Lauder
Max Factor


Noxema
Ponds cold cream
Oil of Olay
Este Lauder
Max Factor

(Just playing with Google)

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Nov 06 - 06:18 PM

Not yet.

Pine Tar Soap
Dial Soap
Mud
Phisoderm
Dove Soap
Caswell Massey soap
Crabtree and Evelyn soap

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Nov 06 - 06:19 PM

Looks like Google's in a c**** shirt rut. Won't say it again or they'll just keep coming back.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 06:16 AM

Soap
Water

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 10:20 AM

It finally kicked in, but I decided not to post again about it. There's one called "Youthful Essence" on right now. Reminds me of Dr. Strangelove. :)

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 04:48 PM

Someone actually said today that my skin looks so much better since I started grinding it.
Wouldn't recommend more than twice a week with this. No new zits! WHEEEEE!

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 05:28 PM

Well, good luck. And hope that there aren't long-term adverse consequences, analogous to those that affect people who go in for too much sunbathing and end up in later life with skins like wrinkled leather jackets.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 05:29 PM

In the past, a good Turkish bathhouse performed the job. Lufa sponges do a fair job in your own bath.

Hammacher Schlemmer in their Gift Supplement offers "The Dermatologist's Microdermabrasion Vacuum System." It uses 'crystal' powder, but doesn't specify what it is. "The vacuum system draws the old cells and powder away and deposits them in a sealed chamber that can be disposed after four treatments. Comfort control knob allows complete control over four sensitivity levels. Produces healthier, revitalized-looking skin without salon appointments."

The things one learns by reading the piles of catalogues that come in the mail as Christmas approaches. Can't do without one! Only $149.95; four extra cartridges $24.95.

Personally, I am intrigued by "The Mechanical Core Muscle Trainer"- only $1,999.95 (order by Dec. 10 for Christmas delivery).

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 06:41 PM

Sounds like what they "Sand Blast" old buildings with here...
Turns Victorian town halls from Black to Light brown sandstone.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 06:48 AM

Many "real men" in my area use "Lava" soap. Good strong soap impregnated with real pumice. By the time one gets the grease off the knuckles the hands are nice and soft. And a good stiff brush helps. If you can't find a genuine "knuckle brush" a small vegetable brush works just fine.

It's much superior to the alternative, "Comet" scouring powder, since it omits the bleach that's in most of the powders.

A softer brush can be used for "sensitive areas."

John

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: kendall
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 09:32 AM

Thats different. Lava soap is to remove grease and crud, not skin.

By the way, I use Go Jo hand cleaner. I can be up to my elbows in old car grime and greae and Go Jo gets all of it.
Call me prissy, but I can't stand black crap under my nails.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: jacqui.c
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 09:34 AM

And he gets really annoyed when his nail varnish gets chipped!

Jacqui.c - going shopping before he sees this one!

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 09:48 AM

It's the red toe nail polish chips that really set Kendall off!
Lava is far more abrasive than this cream. That stuff is like sand paper.

Subject: RE: BS: Microdermabrasion
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 10:48 AM

Update: my skin has ceased to break out. Amazing but true. I use the product once every two weeks to keep the pores clear. No more blocked pores. No more replicas of Mount Vesuvius on my nose and cheeks.
Two recommendations:
First. Keep the applicators scrupulously clean.
Second. Use only until you feel a tingle. If that is one minute, don't go for the recommended two and a half.