BS: Department Of Redundancy Department

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: HuwG
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 10:41 PM

From the Audience participation questions on "The Now Show", BBC Radio 4 in the UK:

Every printed e-mail has an extra sheet which says, "Did you need to print this document?"

To save costs, stationary may be ordered on Wednesdays only, even though it is the same price as on any other day of the week.

The attendence board, vital to let safety officers know who may still be in the building in case evacuation is necessary, is screwed to the wall.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 01:05 AM

I can't seeee youoooo

Two hours later, CNN has re-worded that sentence.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 10:26 PM

What?? I didn't hear you.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 10:13 PM

in todays news, I think this should qualify:

A teenager died Saturday when he was decapitated.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Duane D.
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 08:45 PM

The title of this thread grabbed my attention and "A flash from the past." (my past, that is) and youth misspent in the process. Well, I think we're all bozos on this bus. See Ya on the Funway.......

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: heric
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:49 PM

Amos: I have just learned that that most amazing word, Grundy-esque, has yet another meaning, such that it's trans-pondal use may be distorted. In England, it seems, they may take you to mean "akin to the sensation of being held aloft by the rear side of your underpants, such that your feet leave the ground and the crotch of your pants is forced up your bum-crack so your balls and dick get crushed." (Mitchell, D., Black Swan Green, p. 216).

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: heric
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 08:00 PM

I just read in a State tourist brochure that the ancient Hawaiians lived in harmony with the environment which was all around them.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:09 PM

I suspect that men who say they are male models or male nurses tend to overuse redundancy too often.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 10:39 PM

Then there's the right-wing sound machine's clever attempt to be politically correct by
renaming suicide bombers as

"homicide bombers."


Maybe not quite as clearly redundant as "homicide killers." But close. ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: BuckMulligan
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 09:12 AM

Wait'll you get a load of the Alternative Minimum Tax.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 04:53 PM

oh man I've just discovered the IRS' Modified Adjusted Gross Income . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: John O'L
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 12:39 AM

It depends what your euphamisms are made out of. Allegorical whatsits for example are far more annoying than metaphorical ones.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 11:57 PM

I used to use euphemisms for underwear, but they made me itchy.

(Fun activity for when you've finished your work: say, "I used to use euphemisms" three times, fast).

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 11:48 PM

Whoa. You should pay that word extra.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Amos
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 10:30 PM

Wikipedia tells us:

"Mrs Grundy is the personification of the tyranny of conventional propriety (from Thomas Morton's play Speed the Plough, which appeared in 1798).
(By contemporary rules of punctuation of 1798, still prevailing in North America today, she is Mrs. Grundy.)
Peter Fryer's book Mrs. Grundy: Studies in English Prudery concerns prudish behaviour, such as the use of euphemisms for underwear.
By the mid-nineteenth century, Mrs. Grundy was so well established in the public imagination as a canonical character that Samuel Butler, in his popular novel Erewhon, could refer to her in anagram (as the goddess Ydgrun).
Robert A. Heinlein also mentions her, for example, in his novel The Number of the Beast."

A

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 05:08 PM

Foolestroupe: "So now all you anti-redunanters want to attack poetry? repeating things for emphasis is a recognised poetical and general writing technique."

No, not really. Au Contraire. Actually, we're just point out common types and sorts of repetition and redundancy. And directing attention to them.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 03:58 PM

While we're at it, Amos, what is Grundy-esque? The Marvel comics monster?

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 03:44 PM

I think that works. . . By George I think I've got it. Too bad my little Eliza guy is gone, never getting to enjoy that word.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Amos
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 03:05 PM

"Actually" is an emphasizer, used rhetorically to underscore the notion that one is describing the way things are, in contrast to someone's less actual idea, or a previous less-accurate vision of how they would be.

In lazy minds it has fallen into use as a meanningless surplussage, actually. :>)


A

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 01:03 PM

A guy learning English as a second language once asked me whether the word 'actually' is always surplussage. A word without value. I'm not sure. If it means "in reality," as opposed to "not in fantasy," I think he's right. If it means "au contraire," I'm sure there are many who derive pleasure and value from it.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 10:33 AM

You mean totally eliminated?

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 06:39 AM

I think any writer who engages in and uses repetitive redundancy should be fatally executed and killed dead.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 10:50 AM

Just heard a commentator on advertising (on CBC Radio One, Terry O'Reilly) use the words "unnecessary redundancy". I don't know if this was tongue-in-cheek; it was delivered straight-faced, so to speak, as it were, if you know what I mean, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: John O'L
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 04:06 AM

Vomit makes me want to throw up and the very thought of throwing up makes me feel sick.

Excuse me. Feeling a little crook.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 01:06 AM

Michael: "I, myself, personaly am sick of people repeating the same thing over and over again ad nauseum in this thread. It makes me want to throw up."

Me too, Michael, likewise. It also makes me want to vomit.


And how about this for mainstream media redundancy:

"Dick Cheney and his wife are looking forward with eager anticipation to becoming grandparents again ..."

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 08:41 PM

Redundant rivers are found over here, too: in Tucson, we have the Rillito River.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 07:31 PM

So now all you anti-redunanters want to attack poetry? repeating things for emphasis is a recognised poetical and general writing technique...

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 07:08 PM

"Dramatic drama" here

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 04:34 PM

Excessively pleonastic would probably be redundanter

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 03:44 PM

The two of us will both be singing a duet, together.   - Alfalfa

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Michael
Date: 04 Dec 06 - 05:18 AM

I, myself, personaly am sick of people repeating the same thing over and over again ad nauseum in this thread. It makes me want to throw up.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 07:23 PM

Well you got sucked in anyway, mate...

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 11:26 AM

I thought it was a phone company

A black hole is a "singularity"

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 07:35 PM

A Singular is a micro black hole, which sucks in everything nearby.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 07:32 PM

Songs are replete with and full of repetition and redundancy.

Red Rosy Bush
Dawn's early light
Always And Forever

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 03:43 PM

Dead horse, that makes you a SINGULAR individual!

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Amos
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 10:57 AM

The true facts about redundant neoplasteries, or the correct ones concerning overuse of redundancy, exemplified by many all over.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: John O'L
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 07:35 AM

Excessively pleonastic would probably be redundanter

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: John O'L
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 07:34 AM

Pleonastic.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 05:36 AM

If the first result is posting of a perfectly cogent comment, an intermediate result will be the rapid accretion of many comments, some of which may be equally cogent, but many of which will be trite, trivial, and feeble attempts to "jump aboard" the discussion.

The end result often will be bickering about everyone else's comments, unless the bickering is supplanted by outright hostile attacks.

So what's redundundant?

John

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Dead Horse
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 05:28 AM

I guess that makes you an individual then!

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 05:14 AM

Aw I dunno - not the uniquest. I've seen uniquer ones. That was only a little bit unique.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: John O'L
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 01:44 AM

That's the most unique one so far.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Amos
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 01:04 AM

You foolish silly-billy!

On and on ad infinitum without cess....


A

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 09:04 PM

Aha, Foolestroupe! You reminded me of yet another:

"You stupid idiot!"
or
"You silly fool!"
;-D

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 08:23 PM

Not in my lifetime, I hope. that would truly be post-morton for me then... or would that be post-moron...

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 08:22 PM

And another thing: what led this wise consellor to conclude that I am of the American persuasion? Was it a perception that none but an American could be ignorant of the meaning of the listed foreign and dialect words? Or that only an American would be sensitive to snobbery?

I beg you all to understand, that with a name like memyself, I'm a little touchy on the subject of redundancy.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 08:00 PM

BuckMulligan : "Am I the only one bugged by "The thing of it is, is ...." and suchlike, e.g. "The reason is, is..." and "The point is, is..." all of which remind me of Andy Griffith's "What it was, was football." Except that what that was, was funny."
In a word, no. Not at all. Nuh-uh.

Amos: "Invest in a good dictionary -- the American Heritage is one for Yanks. It'll do wonders for your self-esteem, too! :)"
Not to mention making you feel better about yourself too.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Genie
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 07:56 PM

'Tis a mystery and a puzzlement.

Subject: RE: BS: Department Of Redundancy Department
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 07:19 PM

If we'd know this thread was coming, we could have had a pre-thread discussing it before it happened. It's too late for that now, but we can still have a postmortem after it's done, I guess. I wonder when that will be?