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BS: Christmas BLAHS

SINSULL 05 Dec 06 - 11:16 AM
Wesley S 05 Dec 06 - 11:19 AM
Sorcha 05 Dec 06 - 11:19 AM
SINSULL 05 Dec 06 - 11:22 AM
Clinton Hammond 05 Dec 06 - 11:23 AM
katlaughing 05 Dec 06 - 11:26 AM
wysiwyg 05 Dec 06 - 11:26 AM
MMario 05 Dec 06 - 11:31 AM
Liz the Squeak 05 Dec 06 - 11:35 AM
wysiwyg 05 Dec 06 - 11:35 AM
number 6 05 Dec 06 - 11:37 AM
MMario 05 Dec 06 - 11:39 AM
John MacKenzie 05 Dec 06 - 11:41 AM
Paul from Hull 05 Dec 06 - 11:44 AM
Becca72 05 Dec 06 - 03:03 PM
beardedbruce 05 Dec 06 - 03:19 PM
Bat Goddess 05 Dec 06 - 03:57 PM
SINSULL 05 Dec 06 - 04:01 PM
GUEST,LilyFestre 05 Dec 06 - 04:07 PM
kendall 05 Dec 06 - 05:05 PM
GUEST,Feliz Navidad 05 Dec 06 - 05:46 PM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Dec 06 - 08:51 PM
pattyClink 05 Dec 06 - 09:17 PM
number 6 05 Dec 06 - 09:23 PM
GUEST 05 Dec 06 - 10:01 PM
GUEST,Feliz 05 Dec 06 - 10:45 PM
Maryrrf 05 Dec 06 - 10:50 PM
Sandra in Sydney 06 Dec 06 - 04:03 AM
ranger1 06 Dec 06 - 05:47 PM
Emma B 06 Dec 06 - 05:53 PM
GUEST,Dani 06 Dec 06 - 06:09 PM
open mike 06 Dec 06 - 07:15 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 06 Dec 06 - 07:24 PM
GUEST,FN 06 Dec 06 - 07:40 PM
Bobert 06 Dec 06 - 07:44 PM
GUEST,mg` 06 Dec 06 - 08:20 PM
Bobert 06 Dec 06 - 08:43 PM
JennieG 07 Dec 06 - 01:32 AM
GUEST,Feliz Navidad 07 Dec 06 - 08:22 AM
wysiwyg 07 Dec 06 - 08:42 AM
GUEST, ... 07 Dec 06 - 09:16 AM
freda underhill 07 Dec 06 - 09:30 AM
Mo the caller 07 Dec 06 - 10:19 AM
Liz the Squeak 07 Dec 06 - 11:51 AM
GUEST,Feliz Navidad 07 Dec 06 - 09:27 PM
wysiwyg 07 Dec 06 - 10:36 PM
Alba 08 Dec 06 - 04:25 AM
John MacKenzie 08 Dec 06 - 04:33 AM
GUEST, Topsie 08 Dec 06 - 06:07 AM
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John MacKenzie 08 Dec 06 - 09:31 AM
Liz the Squeak 08 Dec 06 - 11:11 AM
Liz the Squeak 08 Dec 06 - 11:17 AM
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Subject: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:16 AM

Anybody else suffering from the "I don't give a shit Christmas blahs"? I usually have the lights up and some decorations out. This year it feels like Project Mercury and I just can't get into it.
SIGH


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Wesley S
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:19 AM

I'm working up to it. After moving into a new house we're still finding boxes of stuff - Some of it we don't really need. The Christmas decorations will be coming out soon. We're pretty sure we know where they are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:19 AM

Sins, I've felt that way for years! Bah Humbug!!!! I hate holidays.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:22 AM

Grandma got run over by a reindeer
Walking home from our house Christmas Eve
You may say "There's no such thing as Santa."
But as for me and Grandpa, we believe.

Wesley,
You have a little one in the house and a moral obligation to get into the spirit!
Auntie SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:23 AM

I'll get it up for X-mas when this damn play is done....


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:26 AM

If you'll pay for airfare, Sins, I'll see if I can bring Morgan out there to get you in the spirit. There's nothing like a 3 year old to make it a blast! My commiserations to all.:-)

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:26 AM

At our house, for years the Christmas tree didn't get put up till Epiphany at the earliest, just because of being so crazy-busy with all the church affairs. Then, around Lent, it might get put away. Well, Lent last year was not only crazy-busy, I wasn't doing so great, so it never did get put away.

So our little dresser-top tree is already up! All I gotta do is plug it in! And I ain't GONNA put it away no more!

When I do, Sins, I'll think of you.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: MMario
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:31 AM

ONe of the benefits of being more religiously oriented to the holiday then commercially oriented -- our family tradition never involved decorating much before the week before Christmas. Preferably Christmas eve during the day (I suspect as much a way for my mother to keep a multitude of children occupied as anything else) - Christmas carols were verboten until at *least* the first sunday of Advent. Tree and decorations would then stay up until Epipahny - or sometimes a couple weeks later... often the wreath on the door wouldn't come down until Easter.

More concentrated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:35 AM

I thought I would get a jump start on it this year... but it's been so mad around here that it's still all over the place. Got 2 carol concerts (on the same day!) to perform in, and then it's all over bar the cooking!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:35 AM

And BTW, there's no reason the Christmas spirit has to be entirely joyful, either. At our house we try to END the day in an uplifted fashion, but on MANY days it can take quite a bit of cynicism and venting to get there! :~)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: number 6
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:37 AM

Felt that way after our kids grew up and moved out ... but now we're grandparents the 'feeling and spirit" has returned.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: MMario
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:39 AM

Of course, now I starte Christmas on black friday - this year I will have celebrated Christmas soemthing like 14 times before the arrival of the actual Christmas day. A bit of overkill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:41 AM

Hah bumhug
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:44 AM

Bah, Humbug!

I do put a tree & a few decorations up, though for past few years its been fraught with danger cos of having pretty insane cats. That not a problem now.

I've moved 'house' TWICE this year though, & I know for a fact the Xmas stuff is still at the last place, along with some other stuff I havent got moved yet (its an unoccupied house since I moved out, owned by a friend, & he is having to put it up for sale).

I suspect I'll do better this year than last though, when I didnt get the tree up, & damn the rest of the decorations, until Christmas morning....


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Becca72
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 03:03 PM

I just got back from my doctor's as a check up on the herniated disc and was forbidden to do anything until my appointment with the spine dudes on Monday. She specifically told me no shopping of any kind, no chores, no nuthin'. On the one hand, I need to get stuff done, but on the other hand, barring me from the mall took no effort on her part!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 03:19 PM

Please! full lyric:

GRANDMA GOT RUN OVER BY A REINDEER
(Randy Brooks, 1977)

Chorus:
Grandma got run over by a reindeer
Walking home from our house Christmas Eve.
You can say there's no such thing as Santa,
But as for me an' Grandpa, we believe.

She'd been drinking too much eggnog,
And we begged her not to go.
But she forgot her medication,
And she staggered out the door into the snow.

When we found her Christmas morning,
At the scene of the attack
She had hoof prints on her forehead,
And incriminating Claus marks on her back.

Chorus:
Grandma got run over by a reindeer
Walking home from our house Christmas Eve.
You can say there's no such thing as Santa,
But as for me an' Grandpa, we believe.

Now we're all so proud of Grandpa,
He's been taking this so well.
See him in there watching football,
Drinking beer and playing cards with cousin Mel.

It's not Christmas without Grandma,
All the family's dressed in black.
And we just can't help but wonder
Should we open up her gifts
or send them back?
SEND THEM BACK!!!

Chorus:
Grandma got run over by a reindeer
Walking home from our house Christmas Eve.
You can say there's no such thing as Santa,
But as for me an' Grandpa, we believe.

Now the goose is on the table
And the pudding made of fig (ahhhhh!)
And the blue and silver candles,
That would just have matched the hair
in Grandma's wig.

I've warned all my friends and neighbours,
Better watch out for yourselves.
They should never give a license,
To a man who drives a sleigh
and plays with elves.

Sing it, Grandpa!

Chorus:
Grandma got run over by a reindeer
Walking home from our house Christmas Eve.
You can say there's no such thing as Santa,
But as for me an' Grandpa, we believe.



             Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer


         G
CHORUS    Grandma got run over by a reindeer
                                                C
          walking home from our house Christmas Eve
                                              D
          You can say theres no such thing as santa
             G             D          G
          but as for me and grandpa we believe

          Em                           D
          She'd been drinking too much egg nog
                                  G
          and we warned her not to go
                            C
          but she forgot her medication
                  G                D             G
          and she wandered out the door into the snow


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 03:57 PM

Well, this past weekend got everything pulled out of the closet and piled on the guestroom bed (soon to become giftwrap central) and fixed the closet bar. Got a lot of the stuff back in or Freecyled/taken to Goodwill, etcet etcet (including getting the banjo back to the person who store it here over 26 years ago -- before I met Tom!). Participated in a concert to benefit the Nottingham Food Pantry which helped get us in the spirit. (Sure hope I sounded like I heard myself in that church -- lovely accoustics!) Dug out mid-winter holiday cards (no time again this year to design a new one) and ran out the list. Soon...

We usually trim the tree on Dec. 15th -- Curmudgeon's and my "other anniversary", night we met and then the night a year later when, while celebrating having known each other a year, we decided to get married. Nice to have a celebration every six months! Hope it actually gets trimmed sometime this year! (We got the lights on last year, and a couple ornaments...)

Gonna be interesting this year with a new felinity in the household. She's a year and a half old and has an incredible amount of energy usually used for leaping and dancing and swatting anything that looks like it should be swatted (like all those dangly things on the tree -- she'll probably try to see what the view is from the top of the tree, too; sigh).

The issue of the Real Estate Guide that comes out on Dec. 28th has to be to the printer 3 days early (and without the weekend possible fudge time) -- so that's a stress factor, too.

Don't even know yet who will be here for Christmas -- or if we'll have anyone. Shopping's all done because I do it all year long. (Oh, Sins, wait'll ya see what I found for YOU! Tasteful.)

And how come it's too early to get anything done before Thanksgiving and by that weekend, you're already running late? Has this got anything to do with eddies in the space/time continuum?!?

Tired already, I think.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 04:01 PM

And wait 'til you see what I found for you!
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,LilyFestre
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 04:07 PM

Our decorations are waiting in their usual storage spot. I had grand ideas of just how much work I was going to get accomplished over Thanksgiving break and how much decorating I was going to get done. Ummm....well....that didn't quite work out the way I wanted. Those darn vacation days don't have the extra hours in them that I needed to accomplish everything on my list. Student teaching is almost over (sniff, sniff) but that means I am now teaching full time everyday with added Professional Seminar obligations attached (electronic portfolios, teaching an occasional upper level college class, interviews, resumes, presentations, meet and greets, etc). I don't have the blahs about getting things around for the holidays (I did send out half my Christmas cards!), I just don't have the energy for it at the moment. It will all be there waiting for me after graduation (less than 2 weeks away).

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: kendall
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 05:05 PM

Someone sent me a video which I have since lost. It is a serious earworm. Monty Python type thing that goes, "Ho ho f.....g ho what a crock of shit, we all work for Santa Claus we've had enough we quit, we do all the f.....g work while he stars in the show, shove your Christmas up your arse ho ho f.....g ho. Anyone got that? Send it to me ok?

I haven't put up a Christmas tree or lights for almost 10 years. The whole thing is so commercialized I want no part of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,Feliz Navidad
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 05:46 PM

Instead of blowing all yer dough on ho fucking ho, why not head south to Mexico?

Last Xmas was our first, but not even close to the last of Los Posadas.

In our particular inn, we spent Xmas Day a.m. in the hot tub overlooking the ocean & Sierra Madre rainforest down to the shore...

...watching a mama & baby whale and the fishing boats glide by.

Had shrimp omelettes and mimosas for brunch on the patio restaurant with the surf crashing just below.

We had done the celebrating on the eve mostly--wonderful 6 course meal in a local restaurant, watching a candlelight procession into midnight mass at the local cathedral, then fireworks at the beach with mostly Mexican families is the very pretty tradition among the locals and expats, with whom we celebrated.

We exchanged small gifts, only a few, at dinner on Xmas eve. Gift obscenity is not part of the local customs, which makes it all the more beautiful.

And we should go back to celebrating "American Christmas" because????

No thanks. It's Feliz Navidad all the way for us now!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 08:51 PM

"Instead of blowing all yer dough on ho fucking ho"

Well, actually, I usually prefer a different type of woman...


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: pattyClink
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 09:17 PM

Feliz, sounds great, what town are we talking about?

Spent a memorable Christmas long ago in the Big Bend, that was also a welcome change from the Christmas chaos. A surprising number of people bail to there at Christmas, but it's still as though there are only a handful of people within miles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: number 6
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 09:23 PM

"The whole thing is so commercialized I want no part of it."

I fully agree Kendall ... but it's what you, yourself makes of it. Look away from the commercialism, you'd be surprised what is still out there.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 10:01 PM

Puerto Vallarta, but it is the same sort of deal all along the Mexican Riveria. We just happen to have family in PV.

If you want to really "get away from it all" you can do the budget travel thing to the ole hippie hang-out just south of PV here.

You fly into PV & take a water taxi to your palapa paradise!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,Feliz
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 10:45 PM

That was me above. And if surfing is yer thang, you go north
of PV. 'Tis all very gringo friendly. And I do mean friendly! Mexicans are some of the nicest natives I've ever encountered in my travels around the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Maryrrf
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 10:50 PM

What Kendall said!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 04:03 AM

I've been putting off lotsa' stuff cos of my health, but after Monday night in the emergency dept & a proper diagnosis of my occasionally racing (& often threatening to race) heart, I went shopping today & bought myself a pair of shoes & a few chrissy decorations. Marvellous what half a little tablet can do!

Tho I still have my Santee's pressy in my bag - I forgot to remember to post it!

Tuesday afternoon I started my list - cards to this lot, pressies for these ones, & I'm also working on my contributon to the office chrissy decorating competition. I also got out my 4 small boxes of decorations & will put them up soon.

I don't do much over the chrissy season, nothing family as they live in tropical climes, & I hide from Sydney's heat & humidity, but I do like to put up my tiny little chrissy tree & accompanying tiny & bigger decorations.

and avoid all the SPEND! SPEND! SPEND! PARTY! PARTY! PARTY! stuff that makes it so special (for the retailers)

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: ranger1
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 05:47 PM

I usually love this time of year, but this year I, too, am experiencing the Christmas BLAHS. Most of it non-holiday stress-related, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Emma B
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 05:53 PM

I just finished decorating the tree in gold and white and putting greenery. red baubles and gold stars on the mantelpiece as we have our annual house ceilidh on Saturday. At this time of year when we celebrate emerging from the dark and welcoming the coming of the light it is a joy to have the house filled with twinkling lights.

The only humbugs here are Uncle Joe's mintballs :)
http://www.uncle-joes.com/


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 06:09 PM

Won't admit to the Blahs just yet. There's so much about Christmas I love (especially the music!) that I haven't let 'real life' interfere, yet.

Thanks for the tip, guest: you've given me a Mexican adventure to dream about!

Kendall, when you get those lyrics, PLEASE pass 'em on!

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: open mike
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 07:15 PM

i do not "kill a tree for Jesus"
i do not think he would approve
or appreciate that..i do hang
stuff around the house on clothes lines
and clip up cards to remember those
who include me in their thoughts..

and i am tryng to get in the spirit
of composing my annual letter/card
to family and friends...i love keeping
in touch with relatives and friends
via mail esp. ones i rarely get to
see in person..

namaste...the spirit in me greets the
spirit in you...

i almost always include a bit about
mudcat in my cards...it is a place
that is special to me as are the
friends i have met here....

raindrops on roses....
i am feelin a bit
less blah just
thinkin of you
all
and Sinsull, i
have been greatly
cheered by your
thoughtful
gifts in
the past.

hugs to you..
and a Yule Log
to keep you warm!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 07:24 PM

I use to be very negative about Christmas because my workload during December was tremendous. Holidays became just another source of stress in an already overstressed time.

Since leaving that job a few years back, my attitude toward the holidays has changed entirely. I no longer ignore the holidays because I don't have time for them. Now I have plenty of time to celebrate them. I ignore them just because I can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,FN
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 07:40 PM

Ah, but ignoring the holidays in tropical paradise "just because you can"--icing on the cake!

We didn't ignore at all, though. We just jettisoned the Anglo/American/faux Victorian/commercialized bullshit.

I love a beautiful tree, so long as I don't have to take the decorations down, pack them away, etc.

And after half a century of turkey & the trimmings and other "traditional holiday foods" we didn't miss the trad fixings one bit. It was a joy to have someone else prepare a beautiful 6 course meal and enjoy it in a beautifully decorated restaurant in Mexico with a bunch of locals & expats!

We also attended a Christmas concert put on by the ex-pat community while we were there! It was a blast!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 07:44 PM

Well, bah humbug to all you bah humbuggers...

It's friggin' Christmas, ain't it and so get over it... Don't think of it like gettin a friggin' tetnis shot or some medical precedure that requires a couple hundred feet of hose stuck up yer butt...

Hey, this is a time when we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ an' Jesus represents forgiveness and love and, at this time of year, faith or faithless, those are a couple fine things to keep in mind...

Yeah, the commercialism is a pain but turn the radio up an' look beyond it...

Peace and love to all of you...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,mg`
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 08:20 PM

How about grow a tree for Jesus instead. Christmas tree farms keep a lot of families going around here, and the little lights etc. keep a lot of third world people at least somewhat employed. The trees are made out of air and smog and sunshine so I don't think growing them is all that bad..transporting and not recycling, yes. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 08:43 PM

Plus, them trees is good for the ecology... Make good air outta bad air... Heck, Christmas is win-win....


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 01:32 AM

I don't like the "spend spend spend" mentality of Christmas, but I do enjoy the chance to catch up with friends and family, and of course there's the music. Last year Himself and I went to a restaurant for Christmas lunch as both our sons were overseas - the first time in 30 years that there were just the 2 of us and we didn't want a silent house! This year the younger son is enjoying his second Christmas in Ontario (a bit different to an Ozzie Christmas), and the older is in Sydney at present so the 3 of us will be going out.

I have never been much of a fan of the Christmas letter but think I will give it a go this year. And the small tree is up (because The White Cat From Hell would wreck anything bigger) and I'll hang some tinsel, and my quilted Christmas wall hangings are already hanging.

After all Christmas - like much of life - is what you make it.

Cheers
JennieG....better go before I come over all philosophical......!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,Feliz Navidad
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 08:22 AM

Actually Bobert, despite the essential Christian orientation here at Mudcat, there are millions of Americans who don't celebrate the birth of Jesus.

Including my family, who was raised Christian, but no longer practices the religion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 08:42 AM

the essential Christian orientation here at Mudcat

Them's fightin' words, son!

There IS no such orientation here at Mudcat-- in fact, quite the opposite, if there is any orientation at all!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST, ...
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 09:16 AM

I have a tree as a symbol of life continuing through the dark of winter. It lives in a tub in the garden most of the year, and comes into the house on the shortest day, going back outside at some time when the weather is moist rather than frosty, so as not to be too much of a shock for its system.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 09:30 AM

There is a camellia tree outside my front door, and I hung decorations on it, with the help of a neighbours daughter. In fact, they looked so nice, i left them up all year! they have now become relevant again, in the last week! good thing, because i have been a bit blah (read worn out) this year too.

but we have a good cure for the blahs - apart from leaving the tree decorated all year, gone are the times of extensive present planning! our family does a Kris Kringle - each person gets one gift for someone else! we all bring different parts of the meal, and spend all day eating, talking, laughing and singing (that comes at the end!). only the next generation (the granddaughter) gets more than one present!

my neighbour has a Christmas picnic in the same spot each year - under a big Moreton Bay Fig Treeby the harbour - As you can see here these trees have huge roots. They are very stately old trees and there's lots of room underneath. all the old familiars go to this annual christmas day picnic, it's a christmas for not just my neighbour's family but for all the people they know whose families are elsewhere. we usually make the tail end of it, and lie round under the huge trees talking & enjoying the afternoon light over the harbour.

freda


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Mo the caller
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 10:19 AM

Far to early for decorations yet.
Should start on the cards though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 11:51 AM

Nothing makes me feel more BLAH about Christmas than the feeble attempt to decorate the office by those people with the most work to do and the least inclination to do it. Took one chap 3 hours today to hang 4 scabby bits of tinsel and tell everyone how good he was at doing it.

Meanwhile, the two professed Christians were sitting doing the work they get paid for. Is it any wonder I came home early!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,Feliz Navidad
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 09:27 PM

Oh, so the essential orientation of this website is NOT Christian?

Sorry, I was confused by the dozens of threads with a Christian/Christmas theme in the headings.

Thanks so much, Mrs. Christian Preacher's Wife, for correcting me.

Now, would you be so kind as to direct me to the Eid al Adha, Hanukkah, Bodhi Day, Las Posadas, and Kwanzaa holiday threads?

I'm sure it is just my own stupidity, but try as I might I can't find a single thread above or below the line, with any of those holidays listed in the thread titles!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 10:36 PM

There have always been as many holiday threads as anyone felt like starting, from a variety of viewpoints. Also, for many here, Christmas is quite a secular holiday.

You, I think, prefer to try to start a fight. Is that how YOU fight the blahs? I don't.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Alba
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 04:25 AM

Yada Yada Yada Feliz, come on lighten up it's the HOLIDAYS!! :)...and Happy Christmas WYSIWYG..*grin*

Well this is one Solstice Faery that has recently relocated, I am surrounded by mayhem and a few heavy duty Life thingys going on. My Mail has been out there in Postal Land since I moved and if asked right this moment, well I could offer up about a million reasons why this particular Year I should just skip the whole Solstice, Yule, Christmas, Hanukkah, Diwali, Eid al Adha, Las Posadas, Kwanzaa, Bodhi Day and Hogmanay Celebrations.....but.... all may be complete chaos around me at the Moment but I have two Trees up, every decoration for just about every festive occasion and seasonal celebration adourning this House and I have, literally, decked the hallway with Holly and Ivy.

Truth is...whatever Celebration is coming up, from whatever Belief, from whatever part of the World that gives this particular Mudder a reason to be Merry and Bright this Year.......
I will seize it and be all over it like a rash.....*Grin*

Tis the season to be F'n Jolly so I intend be and no-one is going to stop me you hear.....MMMMwahahahahahahahaha

Love and Light and Happy...(please feel free to fill in the Celebration of your choice)....Holidays to ALL

Jude


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 04:33 AM

The three wise men arrived to visit the child lying in the manger.

      One of the wise men was exceptionally tall and smacked his head on the
      low doorway as he entered the stable. "Jesus Christ!" he exclaimed.

      "Write that down, Mary," said Joseph   "It's better than Derek."



Hah Bumhug

Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 06:07 AM

I had carol singers at my door last night- two young lads singing the only carol they know: We Wish You a Merry Christmas.
I told them to come back at Christmas.

I did feel a bit mean but those two are for ever coming to my door -
Can we have our ball back? (Yes, of course)
Trick or Treat (They get chocolate biscuits, but only if they come on the right night)
Can we wash your car? (They want money, but I don't have a car)
Have you got any string? (Why? To play conkers. OK)
Have you got any string? (Why? To make a bow and arrow. OK but don't fire it at each other [chances of those two managing to make anything dangerous are nil])

If I had given them anything last night they would have been back every night till Christmas with the same boring carol.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 06:43 AM

They are obviously being brought up by a stringless parent!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 08:41 AM

People who aren't Christmas worshippers, secular or religious, are treated with a lot of hostility at this website, if they dare mention they either don't celebrate Christmas, or don't like the contemporary mainstream Christmas machine.

Now, how many Muslim Mudcatters are there? How many Buddhist Mudcatters? How many Hindu Mudcatters? How many Jewish Mudcatters? How many Sikh Mudcatters?

Enough to count on all my fingers? I kind of doubt it. This website is very white and very Christian.

Now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this website being very white and very Christian--or very white and very "pagan" (whose relatives were/are very Christian). Nothing whatsoever.

But what is more than a little disturbing is to see people be in denial about that fact, and then get downright hostile when someone DARES point out the bleeding obvious.

That's all I'm sayin'. Millions of our fellow citizens DON'T celebrate Christmas. Cut 'em some slack, will you? Be polite and considerate.

Is that too much to ask of Christians in the throes of their "giving and loving" season of the year?


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 09:31 AM

We got black, we got pagan ,we got Jewish, we got christian, heck we even got our own genuine quaker in the shape of the lovely Lorcan.
I think, guest, {and lets face it Guest has become a sort of religion on here too}, you are getting het up about nothing and the prejudice you perceive just doesn't exist.
Good lord, we've even got Scotsmen on here ¦¬]

Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 11:11 AM

Ah... but have we any Jedi?

Joseph looks out the stable door at the shepherds, Magi, assorted animals, cherubim, angels and archangels gathered around...

'Mary' he says, 'Look at all this, from all over they come, and yet you STILL want an announcement in the Jewish Chronicle?!'

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 11:17 AM

Wonder if some sod will steal my Christmas wreath from off my front door like they did 3 years ago..... ?

I'd spent ages making it from velvet leaves that were a present from a good friend, and some bastard stole it.

Ho ho f&^%*g ho!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: bobad
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 12:17 PM

Kendall

Here's an mp3 of the tune you're looking for http://findthebesthere.com/Ho%20Ho%20Fucking%20Ho.mp3

Warning - May not be suitable for all tastes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Alba
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 01:33 PM

ROFL Bobad....excellent.


Howz about this little greeting I found online....

Season's Greeting, I Think


Best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most joyous traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, but with respect for the religious persuasion of others who choose to practice their own religion as well as those who choose not to practice a religion at all; plus, A fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the generally
accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for
the calendars of choice of the other cultures whose contributions have helped make our society great, without regards to the race, creed, color, religious, or sexual preferences of the wishes.

(disclaimer: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal.
It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes
for him/herself or others and no responsibility for any unintended
emotional stress these greetings may bring to those not caught up in the holiday spirit.)


***SMIRK!******
Love
Jude


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 06:33 PM

Perfect.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 06:35 PM

Goo goo


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: LilyFestre
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 09:13 PM

I spent a good part of the day making Christmas ornaments with children. Ooey, gluey, chocolatey, googley-eyed ornaments, Christmas music in the background, Christmas bar graphs for the math lesson...can't have the blahs with the little ones around, it's just impossible!

That was followed by a holiday party (lots of yummies and a gift exchange....FUN!!!!) at work and then a bit of Christmas shopping for a dear elderly friend.

:) Celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 09:01 AM

Apparently, the majority opinion is people who post here are not allowed to have Christmas BLAHS, much less be indifferent to the holiday all together.

Conform, conform! You all MUST celebrate and you all MUST be merry!

God, no wonder mental illness, domestic violence, and suicides skyrocket in the US at this time of year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 07:39 AM

I really dislike Christmas. I have very little money and I'm expected to spend what little I have on people who probably have more and don't want my offering anyway.

And I'm veggie and the man in my life is already pining about not have turkey. Hmmm.

I think we're eating out if I can still book a table.

Sal

Bah Humbug


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 08:26 AM

And I just found out that probably neither of the kids will be here at all. Bah humbug. Ham sandwiches.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 09:47 AM

I've found that once you pitch the entire holiday out the window, it is quite liberating. Now, while everyone else is in a mad scramble, putting up with forced gaiety, meaningless consumer crap exchanges, overworked at year's end, overwrought with family dysfunction, etc...

I have a perfectly lovely, relaxing two week holiday coming up with none of the above!

It is the most liberating, WONDERFUL thing I've done for myself and my immediate family in a long, long time. I don't miss Christmas AT ALL!


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 10:27 AM

Feeling better now. The trip to Albany had me worried and down. If the snow clears I may even put up some lights.

Damn - you guys can argue about anything!
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Crane Driver
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 06:38 PM

The best Christmas we had was a couple of years ago, when we didn't have Christmas at all. We were flying to Australia to see my parents, and got an Air Canada flight via Vancouver that left Britain on Christmas Eve. We eventually crossed the International Date Line at 5 minutes to midnight Christmas Eve, and then it was Boxing Day. No December 25th at all!

One great aspect of this was that the plane was half-empty (MUCH better than half-full when you're talking aircraft), so we each got a full-length set of seats to lie out on and sleep.

As far as we're concerned, if we want to give each other presents or show our appreciation for each other, we do so, without waiting for a religiously-sanctioned date - especially when we don't subscribe to the religion concerned. We'd rather eat lamb or pork than turkey, so we do. If we WANTED decorations, we'd have them, but not because it's the 'done thing' to do. As for running round like maniacs buying things no-one needs just for the sake of it - forget it. And at this time of year - we're genuinely happy. Because we're not caught up in 'keeping up appearances'.

Have a great <>. Do what you want to do. Be what you want to be. Be happy.

Andrew & Carole.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 06:50 PM

Well said!

Now if we would just get some damn snow, so we could head north for the holiday & go cross country skiing, life would be grand!

Sounds like you do it at your house, the way we do it at ours.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 01:54 PM

Had a great Christmas card today... a picture of humbugs!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,LilyFestre
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 02:26 PM

Well Guest,

   I AM enjoying the holidays this year but there have been times when I didn't and didn't participate in any of it. If you want to throw Christmas out the window, that's your business entirely. I'm enjoying the season which is a nice change! :)

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 06:42 AM

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater of Christmas. I just think it is a way overhyped holiday, and I'm not into what "the meaning of Christmas"--Christian or consumer capitalist--stands for any other day of the year, so why be phony about it and pretend I am on the day?

I also think Christmas, as it exists nowadays, isn't healthy for kids.

I could care less if others love the holiday, I'm all about live and let live with it--so long as people don't get in my face about how I HAVE to put up with it because they say so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Scoville
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 02:37 PM

I'm always amazed at how many people force themselves to do all sorts of unnatural things during the holidays and then wonder why they hate Christmas. If you don't want to do it, don't do it.

We never traveled over Thanksgiving and Christmas, my mother doesn't do a big Christmas dinner, we don't visit people whose company we don't enjoy, and we always have a fine time. We always do cold cuts for Christmas dinner and then pancakes of Christmas morning (well, for lunch, really, after presents are opened) so we don't waste all day cooking when we could be playing with our new stuff. This year we're going birdwatching. Last year we went up to the [Texas] hill country and went sightseeing.

We've always ignored gift fads and we don't buy presents for the whole extended family. I buy or make 5 gifts--two parents, brother, sister-in-law, best friend. Everyone else gets a card or nothing. Cousins, nieces, and nephews don't get money or gifts after the age of 18 in our family unless you happen to be super close on your own terms.

I don't care what anyone else does or doesn't do at Christmas, but it's not like it has to be all or nothing. Yeah, it's overblown. Ignore it and do it on your own smaller scale, or not at all.


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