BS: Christmas BLAHS

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 08:41 AM

People who aren't Christmas worshippers, secular or religious, are treated with a lot of hostility at this website, if they dare mention they either don't celebrate Christmas, or don't like the contemporary mainstream Christmas machine.

Now, how many Muslim Mudcatters are there? How many Buddhist Mudcatters? How many Hindu Mudcatters? How many Jewish Mudcatters? How many Sikh Mudcatters?

Enough to count on all my fingers? I kind of doubt it. This website is very white and very Christian.

Now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this website being very white and very Christian--or very white and very "pagan" (whose relatives were/are very Christian). Nothing whatsoever.

But what is more than a little disturbing is to see people be in denial about that fact, and then get downright hostile when someone DARES point out the bleeding obvious.

That's all I'm sayin'. Millions of our fellow citizens DON'T celebrate Christmas. Cut 'em some slack, will you? Be polite and considerate.

Is that too much to ask of Christians in the throes of their "giving and loving" season of the year?

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 09:31 AM

We got black, we got pagan ,we got Jewish, we got christian, heck we even got our own genuine quaker in the shape of the lovely Lorcan.
I think, guest, {and lets face it Guest has become a sort of religion on here too}, you are getting het up about nothing and the prejudice you perceive just doesn't exist.
Good lord, we've even got Scotsmen on here ¦¬]

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 11:11 AM

Ah... but have we any Jedi?

Joseph looks out the stable door at the shepherds, Magi, assorted animals, cherubim, angels and archangels gathered around...

'Mary' he says, 'Look at all this, from all over they come, and yet you STILL want an announcement in the Jewish Chronicle?!'

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 11:17 AM

Wonder if some sod will steal my Christmas wreath from off my front door like they did 3 years ago..... ?

I'd spent ages making it from velvet leaves that were a present from a good friend, and some bastard stole it.

Ho ho f&^%*g ho!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: bobad
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 12:17 PM

Kendall

Here's an mp3 of the tune you're looking for http://findthebesthere.com/Ho%20Ho%20Fucking%20Ho.mp3

Warning - May not be suitable for all tastes.

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Alba
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 01:33 PM

ROFL Bobad....excellent.


Howz about this little greeting I found online....

Season's Greeting, I Think


Best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most joyous traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, but with respect for the religious persuasion of others who choose to practice their own religion as well as those who choose not to practice a religion at all; plus, A fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the generally
accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for
the calendars of choice of the other cultures whose contributions have helped make our society great, without regards to the race, creed, color, religious, or sexual preferences of the wishes.

(disclaimer: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal.
It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes
for him/herself or others and no responsibility for any unintended
emotional stress these greetings may bring to those not caught up in the holiday spirit.)

***SMIRK!******
Love
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 06:33 PM

Perfect.

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 06:35 PM

Goo goo

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: LilyFestre
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 09:13 PM

I spent a good part of the day making Christmas ornaments with children. Ooey, gluey, chocolatey, googley-eyed ornaments, Christmas music in the background, Christmas bar graphs for the math lesson...can't have the blahs with the little ones around, it's just impossible!

That was followed by a holiday party (lots of yummies and a gift exchange....FUN!!!!) at work and then a bit of Christmas shopping for a dear elderly friend.

:) Celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 09:01 AM

Apparently, the majority opinion is people who post here are not allowed to have Christmas BLAHS, much less be indifferent to the holiday all together.

Conform, conform! You all MUST celebrate and you all MUST be merry!

God, no wonder mental illness, domestic violence, and suicides skyrocket in the US at this time of year.

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 07:39 AM

I really dislike Christmas. I have very little money and I'm expected to spend what little I have on people who probably have more and don't want my offering anyway.

And I'm veggie and the man in my life is already pining about not have turkey. Hmmm.

I think we're eating out if I can still book a table.

Sal

Bah Humbug

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 08:26 AM

And I just found out that probably neither of the kids will be here at all. Bah humbug. Ham sandwiches.

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 09:47 AM

I've found that once you pitch the entire holiday out the window, it is quite liberating. Now, while everyone else is in a mad scramble, putting up with forced gaiety, meaningless consumer crap exchanges, overworked at year's end, overwrought with family dysfunction, etc...

I have a perfectly lovely, relaxing two week holiday coming up with none of the above!

It is the most liberating, WONDERFUL thing I've done for myself and my immediate family in a long, long time. I don't miss Christmas AT ALL!

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 10:27 AM

Feeling better now. The trip to Albany had me worried and down. If the snow clears I may even put up some lights.

Damn - you guys can argue about anything!
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Crane Driver
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 06:38 PM

The best Christmas we had was a couple of years ago, when we didn't have Christmas at all. We were flying to Australia to see my parents, and got an Air Canada flight via Vancouver that left Britain on Christmas Eve. We eventually crossed the International Date Line at 5 minutes to midnight Christmas Eve, and then it was Boxing Day. No December 25th at all!

One great aspect of this was that the plane was half-empty (MUCH better than half-full when you're talking aircraft), so we each got a full-length set of seats to lie out on and sleep.

As far as we're concerned, if we want to give each other presents or show our appreciation for each other, we do so, without waiting for a religiously-sanctioned date - especially when we don't subscribe to the religion concerned. We'd rather eat lamb or pork than turkey, so we do. If we WANTED decorations, we'd have them, but not because it's the 'done thing' to do. As for running round like maniacs buying things no-one needs just for the sake of it - forget it. And at this time of year - we're genuinely happy. Because we're not caught up in 'keeping up appearances'.

Have a great <>. Do what you want to do. Be what you want to be. Be happy.

Andrew & Carole.

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 06:50 PM

Well said!

Now if we would just get some damn snow, so we could head north for the holiday & go cross country skiing, life would be grand!

Sounds like you do it at your house, the way we do it at ours.

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 01:54 PM

Had a great Christmas card today... a picture of humbugs!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST,LilyFestre
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 02:26 PM

Well Guest,

   I AM enjoying the holidays this year but there have been times when I didn't and didn't participate in any of it. If you want to throw Christmas out the window, that's your business entirely. I'm enjoying the season which is a nice change! :)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 06:42 AM

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater of Christmas. I just think it is a way overhyped holiday, and I'm not into what "the meaning of Christmas"--Christian or consumer capitalist--stands for any other day of the year, so why be phony about it and pretend I am on the day?

I also think Christmas, as it exists nowadays, isn't healthy for kids.

I could care less if others love the holiday, I'm all about live and let live with it--so long as people don't get in my face about how I HAVE to put up with it because they say so.

Subject: RE: BS: Christmas BLAHS
From: Scoville
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 02:37 PM

I'm always amazed at how many people force themselves to do all sorts of unnatural things during the holidays and then wonder why they hate Christmas. If you don't want to do it, don't do it.

We never traveled over Thanksgiving and Christmas, my mother doesn't do a big Christmas dinner, we don't visit people whose company we don't enjoy, and we always have a fine time. We always do cold cuts for Christmas dinner and then pancakes of Christmas morning (well, for lunch, really, after presents are opened) so we don't waste all day cooking when we could be playing with our new stuff. This year we're going birdwatching. Last year we went up to the [Texas] hill country and went sightseeing.

We've always ignored gift fads and we don't buy presents for the whole extended family. I buy or make 5 gifts--two parents, brother, sister-in-law, best friend. Everyone else gets a card or nothing. Cousins, nieces, and nephews don't get money or gifts after the age of 18 in our family unless you happen to be super close on your own terms.

I don't care what anyone else does or doesn't do at Christmas, but it's not like it has to be all or nothing. Yeah, it's overblown. Ignore it and do it on your own smaller scale, or not at all.