BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Dazbo
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 04:14 AM

It is repeatedly stated that in Harry's world once you're dead you stay dead (with the exceptions of returning as a ghost or to in habit a magical painting).

Harry, Ginny, MacGonnigle, Malfoy, Mr Weasley, and Voldemort will all die with Longbottom as the ultimate hero. Snape will become headmaster of Hogwarts. Bill will marry Tonks, Ron and Hermione will get off with each other.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Anne Lister
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 03:07 AM

My best ever teaching assignment was working as a tutor on the film set for the second film .... and the best day was when we watched Alan Rickman and the other actors in the Duelling Club scene. Rickman is the most wonderful actor - really helpful and friendly before the cameras started rolling, assisting the young Draco with his acting, and then becoming nasty old Snape (complete with power) as soon as the scene started. That evening I saw him in the West End in a Noel Coward play, as a complete contrast.   What a man ...*swoon* ...He also has a degree of charisma that affects every female within a fifty yard radius. I wasn't the only one with wobbly knees!

Anne

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: MBSLynne
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 03:06 AM

I agree with Ebbie too. Wonderful to be aware, in your own lifetime, that you are up there with the classic childrens writers like A A Milne, Kenneth Graham etc. She deserves the money she earns much more than some of the company directors and politicians who get large amounts.

I think she'll probably write something completely different after this. With such a gift, why continue with 'sequels' and tie yourself down by staying in the same area?

I've never believed that Dumbledore was really dead and I don't believe that Snape is on the dark side either. Dumbledore wouldn't have been that badly mistaken and he had absolute faith in Snape.

I hope she doesn't kill Harry; I don't think that would be a very good ending. Though one of the professors is a ghost isn't he? Binns is it?

Can't wait!!!

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Wordsmith
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 01:16 AM

Yes, and Amazon.com has said it will sell the book for about $20. They also said they don't mind taking a loss on it because they're hoping people will order other books as well. I think it's a wonderful marketing concept that other would do well to copy. As for the actual final book, I really can't speculate about it. As others have mentioned, I think Rowling deserves every penny. I only wish I had half of her imagination and attention to details. The ability to create a whole world and inhabit it with such complex characters. I've said on other sites that I wish they could've done the movies consecutively as the Lord of the Rings series were done. But, since there's seven books, and she's only finishing the last, that wasn't even a possibility. What might've helped the series is if they could've at least had the same director, but maybe there were creative differences. I wish Dumbledore wasn't killed either, but who knows...maybe a resurrection spell? As for Snape, Alan Rickman is a marvelous choice...greasy hair and all...and I think he's just pure evil. I've read the books, seen the movies, and can't wait, but don't want HP and friends to die. I've been to the Leaky Cauldron, MuggleNet, and Potterish.com. Everyone's got an opinion or point of view. I know from what I've seen that three key characters are going to, well, you know. BTW, jkrowling.com is a nice site, too. She restored my desire to read more than just magazines and newspapers. Thanks, JK!

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: harpmolly
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 12:28 AM

Incidentally, JKRowling.com has announced the release date for Book 7! July 21st, 2007. Wow, that's soon!

And only a week or so after the new film comes out. Sort of odd timing, IMHO. But who cares? :)

M

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 11:14 PM

Yeah, yeah. That's what you're supposed to think.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: EBarnacle
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 11:07 PM

Harry has quit Hogwarts, remember?

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 09:57 PM

Another thing you should know about the coming book (and my copy is on order):

Harry walks in as Ron is "forcing himself" on Hermione. Being a gentleman, Harry is torn between walking away from such a tender scene and helping Hermione but offending Ron (he doesn't consider helping Ron and offending Hermione). Instead, Harry performs a rather complicated spell and finishes by shouting "Kretuttok!" But instead of simply making Ron "soft" Harry also softens everything for 20 kilometers around -- Hogwarts itself is turned into a pile of semi-solid jelly. This makes it quite easy for The Dark Lord to take over and ensconce his minions in the White House and Number 10 Downing Street, to name but two places they become ensconced.

Harry, Ron, and Hermione are all that survive of Hogwarts and become a singing group doing, of course, soft rock.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: JeremyC
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 06:37 PM

Ah, I remember when the last HP book came out. I posted a Craigslist personal titled "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE" in the men seeking women area and got quite a few angry emails.

I find Harry Potter books to be a lot like "Wheel of Time" in that I love the story and concept, but I hate the writing (to the point, in the case of WoT that I couldn't bear to read anything past the fourth or fifth book).

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 05:42 PM

Usually cloth bound, hard back covers; high grade, full rag paper with gilt edges, hand sewn binding and a really good bit of PR make 'deluxe' editions. You can count on the pages not to fall out at the first reading.

When I worked in the library, I got sick of new hardbacks falling apart after only a couple of reads.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Wesley S
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 05:34 PM

I see that Barnes and Nobel is taking orders for a "deluxe" edition of the book that will list at $65.00 and sell for around $40.00. But there no mention of what exactly makes it $65.00 worth of "deluxe". Any ideas?

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: harpmolly
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 08:03 PM

Anyone see last week's Simpsons Xmas episode? If anyone else Stateside didn't know the BIG SPOILER, guess they're screwed now...;)

Molly

P.S. who thought it was handled beautifully...

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 07:39 PM

Then there's always the story of the Naked Quidditch Match

CHEERS
Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 07:36 PM

So, Is Dumbledore dead? and explain the reasons for your response!

Cheers
Nigel (who has an inkling that Dumbledore set up the whole scene just to keep Snape looking like a baddie, and enabling him to work from the inside)

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:45 PM

I imagine the sequel-series will be about how Harry suddenly undergoes a transformation to a much younger body, so they can find another young actor to replace the so-aging Harry of the current batch of movies.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: GUEST,Professor Snape
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:44 PM

Rapaire is correct. Were he or she a student I would award five points to his or her house.

The details are no one's business except mine.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: harpmolly
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:18 PM

P.S. My general point was, I think there's still a chance for Snape to redeem himself.

P.P.S. I gotta say, I'm not crazy about the new title. :(

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: harpmolly
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:17 PM

Snape's loyalty or lack thereof is killing me too. I don't think things are as simple as they seemed at the end of the last book. Without undue spoilers, there *was* that whole Unbreakable Vow thing...

M

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Fran
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:10 PM

Anybody figured out who R.A.B is yet? I think it might be Regalus Black Sirius'Brother, I can't wait for book 7!

Fran

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 12:37 PM

Rowling is still young. It will be interesting to see if she will start another series with a different character, one that may become as popular and as much a part of the culture as the Harry Potter series.

I expect there have been writers who have been able to carry that off but I don't think it is common.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 11:00 AM

Snape is Harry's biological father. His mother was failing Potions, see, and needed a little "help" and, well, anyway, Snape wanted a little quid pro quo....

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: MMario
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:32 AM

She has stated pretty firmly that there will be only 7 books with harry. But she could probably do at least 4 about the founding of Hogwart's -

Or 5 - one for each founder and one "collective"

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:27 AM

Even if he is killed - who says he has to stay dead ? It's about magic after all.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:08 AM

Killing off your main character as a means of escaping from a wildly popular series would be nothing new.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle grew to hate Sherlock Holmes, and killed him off in order to end the series. There was so much pressure exerted on him that he had to resuscitate Holmes (I forget just how) and go on with the series.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: clueless don
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 08:54 AM

I am also looking forward to the seventh book.

Since I don't have a life, I'll share my hopes for the last book:

I hope she doesn't pull a St. Elsewhere or Dallas (i.e. all of the events of the series were in the imagination of the one-year-old Harry, whose parents are very much alive, or were a dream) or a Douglas Adams (i.e. kill off Harry as a means of ensuring that she never has to write another Harry Potter book.) If she kills off Harry because she feels the story demands it, that's a different situation.

Most of all, for my daughter's sake, I hope she doesn't kill off Hermione.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: MMario
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 08:39 AM

it's quite well along from what I hear - she had the manuscript with here a few months ago and they tried to prevent her from carrying it on a plane.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: EBarnacle
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 09:48 PM

OOh! OOh! I hope there's a book launching party for this one also.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: jacqui.c
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 09:14 PM

I agree with Ebbie. I've loved the books so far and can't wait for number 7.

I'll be interested to see what she does once that is finished.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Bert
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 09:13 PM

Well said Ebbie. I just love the Harry Potter books.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 08:42 PM

I'm with you, Ebbie. There's a green-eyed monster hanging over this thread. I applaud Rowling for creating a wonderful series that created a frenzy over READING. Anyone who could inspire children to line up around the block at bookstores on several continents to grab the first copies of a book is the most powerful wizard on the planet.

I can't wait to read the new book. Rowling's characters and descriptions are imaginative, humorous and delightful. Apparently she had the basic plot-line of the series more or less worked out from the beginning.

Rowling can write shopping lists for the rest of her life, as far as I'm concerned. However, a persn with such abundant creativivity usually can't stanch the flow. Something else will follow. Hopefully her readers won't typecast her and insist on more of the same if she wants to go in different directions.

Elmer

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 08:38 PM

I'm with you, Ebbie!

Anybody who can get kids to read -- and ENJOY reading -- deserves kudos. And how many kids would have picked up a book that thick before Harry came along?

Plenty of adults like them, too. As for me, I'm eager to find out which side Snape is on!

Nancy

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Anne Lister
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 07:23 PM

She also gives a fair proportion of her money to good causes, without publicity - I know this because a friend of mine met her at a charity do.

Anne

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: MAG
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 07:00 PM

If you check out her website you will msee that she is hard at work on #7. You can also play a fun game.

MA (checks out the Leaky Cauldron website in a strictly professional capacity)

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:32 PM

Do I detect just a smidgen of envy and sour grapes? In my opinion Rowling deserves every penny she has made from the contents of her mind and imagination and skill and ability to entertain. And who knows how many children in future will have learned to take pleasure from books because of her.

In a day when being good at hitting a ball around on grass or bouncing a ball on a wooden floor or throwing a ball from one end of a field to the other can garner millions of bucks I admire cerebral achievement.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:22 PM

I heard the title mentioned on a radio news report when I was in the car. I thought it said The Deadly Hellos.
Anyway, what does it matter - i seems that all she has written so far is the title - He'll be drawing his pension by the time she gets the actual chapters written.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: artbrooks
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:05 PM

What odds she kills the little bugger off?

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Wesley S
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:00 PM

Rowling could always start a series about Dumbledore's early days. My predictions for the next book include Harry fighting his own parents after Valdemore brings them back from the dead. And I think Harry will end up as the professor of the dark arts at Hogwarts. I'll probably be wrong. It won't be the first time.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:57 PM

She could always send him on a gap year then on to uni, that takes four years, then of course he will want to take a masters, oh and maybe a years work experience and well harry retires early and ...................harry does an adrian mole? I hope not.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:57 PM

She earns more in interest a day than most folks earn in a year of working.
G

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:54 PM

But getting those fat royalty checks is so habit-forming!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Wesley S
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:50 PM

Nope that was year 6. This will be year 7. And it's supposed to be the last.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:44 PM

I thought the last one was the last one?

~S~

Subject: BS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
From: Wesley S
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:41 PM

So - It sounds like the new Harry Potter book title has been announced. Anyone ready to sign up for their copy today? And what will JK write after this one?