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BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail

GUEST,Dickey 18 Jan 07 - 07:27 PM
artbrooks 18 Jan 07 - 07:49 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 18 Jan 07 - 08:43 PM
Peace 19 Jan 07 - 09:37 AM
GUEST,dickey 11 Feb 07 - 04:47 PM
Riginslinger 12 Feb 07 - 10:55 AM
GUEST,Mark 12 Feb 07 - 11:17 AM
GUEST,MarkS 12 Feb 07 - 11:20 AM
Jean(eanjay) 12 Feb 07 - 01:50 PM
DougR 12 Feb 07 - 03:16 PM
GUEST,Dickey 12 Feb 07 - 06:16 PM

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Subject: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: GUEST,Dickey
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:27 PM

Who's side is Bush on?

President George W. Bush pardoned 16 criminals including five drug dealers at Christmastime, but so far has refused to pardon the two U.S. Border Patrol agents who were trying to defend Americans against drug smugglers. It makes us wonder which side the self-proclaimed "compassionate" president is on.

Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean were guarding the Mexican border near El Paso, Texas, on Feb. 17, 2005, when they intercepted a van carrying 743 pounds of marijuana. For what happened next, they were convicted and sentenced under a statute that was designed to impose heavy punishment on criminal drug smugglers caught in the commission of a crime.

A U.S. Border Patrol agent patrols along the fence line of the U.S.-Mexico border in Nogales, Ariz., on Thursday, April 6, 2006. Lawmakers in Washington are debating immigration reform measures. Arrests of illegal migrants along the U.S.-Mexican border have dropped by more than a third since U.S. National Guard troops started helping with border security, suggesting that fewer people may be trying to cross. "The presence of the National Guard has had a big impact on migrants," he told The Associated Press on Tuesday Dec. 26, 2006. (AP Photo/Khampha Bouaphanh)

The two agents are scheduled to start 11-year and 12-year prison terms, respectively, on Jan. 17, for the crime of putting one bullet in the buttocks of the admitted drug smuggler, Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, and failing to report the discharge of their firearms. The nonfatal bullet didn't stop the smuggler from running to escape in a van waiting for him on the Mexican side of the border.

PS: The smuggler is now suing for $5 million bucks


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: artbrooks
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:49 PM

It would have been polite to include Phyllis Schlafly's byline.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 08:43 PM

It would also be better reporting to give a fuller story. Stories I hear from Texas suggest that the agents were trying to eliminate a man who could implicate them in crimes.
Why do we not hear from their lawyers? All we hear is what simple-minded Lou Dobbs trumpets and a handful of politicized legislators echo on his program.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jan 07 - 09:37 AM

The full article can be read at:


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: GUEST,dickey
Date: 11 Feb 07 - 04:47 PM

Imprisoned border agent did report shooting
DHS memo shows Compean spoke to supervisor immediately after incident


"..Russell's testimony references a wound Compean suffered on his hand, a gash between the thumb and index finger, which he suffered when scuffling in the ditch with the drug smuggler, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, who had abandoned his vehicle and was attempting to escape back to Mexico on foot. Russell points to this wound as evidence of aggravated assault committed on Compean by the drug smuggler.

Here is Russell's recorded testimony:

    Well, I mean, the base the basis of this is basically umm Mr. Compean an assault took place that day against one of our agents, and he did defend himself, and the part of the assault is never mentioned in the complaint or anywhere by OIG (Office of Inspector General) that they know clearly how this did take place.

A few sentences later, Russell again references that what transpired at the scene was observed by the agents and supervisors in the field and subsequently fully known to the Border Patrol management at the station in Fabens, Texas.

Russell indicates that management at Fabens themselves chose not to make a report about Compean's injury. Here is his testimony:

    Even management at the station in Fabens was fully aware of what had transpired and for whatever reason nothing was ever generated and once all this comes forward, I mean, it's my belief even his attorneys' belief that even once that does come forward and all that information is presented that the charges will possibly be dropped or dismissed or he will be found not guiltybased on thatwhat did transpire.

Directly contradicting prosecutor Sutton's assertion that agents Ramos and Compean filed false reports, the April 2005 administrative hearing reveals Compean was forthcoming concerning the events of the incident. ..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Feb 07 - 10:55 AM

The federal government's failure to act on this issue, and George W. Bush's pro-corporate amnesty proposal has created this situation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: GUEST,Mark
Date: 12 Feb 07 - 11:17 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: GUEST,MarkS
Date: 12 Feb 07 - 11:20 AM

Sorry for the fumble finger on the above.

A delegation of Texas congressmen has been refused a chance to meet with Bush to discuss this case.

The details of this case may just trash what is left of the credibility of the Bush adimistration with what is left of his base.

Doubt this is going to go away. Should be an interesting next few weeks.

Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 12 Feb 07 - 01:50 PM

I didn't realise Bush ever pardoned anybody until I read this!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: DougR
Date: 12 Feb 07 - 03:16 PM

eanjay:you probably should check it out for yourself if you are really interested. Can't always rely on posted information to be correct.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mexican Drug Smugglers prevail
From: GUEST,Dickey
Date: 12 Feb 07 - 06:16 PM

I can't find the proof but there is a rumor that the smuggler, Davila, while having a special green card / border pass, possibly driving a us government veicle, attepmted to smuggle 1000 pounds of pot into the US before the trial.

Sutton adamantly denies this.


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