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Origin: Bold Reynard

KD Withington 09 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM
Susan of DT 09 Mar 07 - 01:15 PM
Les in Chorlton 09 Mar 07 - 01:29 PM
Malcolm Douglas 09 Mar 07 - 04:17 PM
Les in Chorlton 09 Mar 07 - 05:01 PM
RTim 09 Mar 07 - 06:13 PM
Malcolm Douglas 09 Mar 07 - 06:55 PM
KD Withington 09 Mar 07 - 07:44 PM
Malcolm Douglas 09 Mar 07 - 08:07 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Eden 07 Feb 11 - 06:51 AM
GUEST,Rob Jones 10 Oct 11 - 07:34 AM
GMGough 10 Oct 11 - 11:37 AM
Spleen Cringe 21 Feb 12 - 03:53 PM
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Subject: Bold Reynard
From: KD Withington
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM

I have sung a song called Bold Reynard for several years now.    I got it from an album called Green Anthem by a folk/rock band called Reynard(or vice-versa)many years ago but have long since lost the album. Does anyone know who wrote it alnd where it came from etc?


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Subject: RE: Bold Reynard
From: Susan of DT
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 01:15 PM

There is a traditional song called Bold Reynard (BOLDRNRD) in the DT. Other Reynard songs in the datatbase include:
   Kielder Hunt                   KIELDHNT
   Reynard the Fox                REYNRDFX
   Reynard the Fox 2             RENOLDS
   Reynard the Fox 3             REYNFOX
   Reynardine                     REYNDINE
   Reynardine 2                   REYNDN2
   You Gentlemen of High Renown   REYNFOX2


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Subject: RE: Bold Reynard
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 01:29 PM

Give us a verse and chorus to guide us then KD!


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Subject: RE: Bold Reynard
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 04:17 PM

A little trawling reveals that Green Anthem was Reynard's second album, released in 1979; their first having been Fresh From The Earth (1976). Both were released on the Grapevine label; the band was from Liverpool and had previously (until 1975) been called Flight. I find no indication of which of several different songs might be meant here.


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Subject: RE: Bold Reynard
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 05:01 PM

Malcolm,

pure genius, we are for ever in your debt, if only I can get KD to return to the Mudact

Cheers

Les


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Subject: Lyr Add: BOLD REYNOLDS
From: RTim
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 06:13 PM

I have a version collected in Hampshire by George Gardiner that is totally different and I cannot find a similar version - with NO TUNE - Can anyone suggest a tune for these words?
Tim Radford

BOLD REYNOLDS.
Note book'No.18. p.22. Albert Doe,(58)
No tune noted. Bartley, Hants. Dec.,1908.

Bold Reynolds being all in his hole,
A hearing of those hounds,
Which wakened him out of his sleep,
And on his legs he sprung.

I thinks I can hear those jovial hounds,
Pursuing of me still,
But afore that they shall me come nigh,
I'll cross those mighty hills.

Your dogs are stancient I knows right well,
They'll hunt me like the wind,.
But I'll trip so light all over the ground,
I'll leave no scent behind.

There's Snowball flinging up his head
Well knowing there being a fox,
They hunted him o'er.mountains high,
Over valleys, fields and rocks.

They hunted him nine hours or more,
Through parishes thirteen,
They hunted him o'er mountains high,
Till they came to Mackingsfield Green.

Where they catched bold Reynolds was by his rump
And dare not let him go,
"It's spare my life," bold Reynolds he cried,
"I'll promise and fulfil.

I'll catch no more ducks nor feathered fowl,
Young lambs on yonders hill."
(2 lines wanting)


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Subject: RE: Bold Reynard
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 06:55 PM

This is certainly a version (though somewhat changed in places) of 'Bold Reynolds' / 'You Gentlemen of High Renown' (Roud 190); there are several examples with tunes, including Gardiner C24, though that example was got in Cornwall.

Of published versions, best known is the Copper Family set and (because recorded by the Young Tradition and subsequently copied by a great many revival singers) the version noted by RVW from Stephen Pole or Poll (Norfolk 1905). This last was the subject of an at times quite bizarre discussion here some time ago: What are jubal hounds?


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Subject: RE: Bold Reynard
From: KD Withington
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 07:44 PM

Malcolm,
Thanks for the info on Green Anthem. Not only have you given me something on "Bold Reynard" but you've also linked up with another thread. "Oh You Great Leviathan" was also on that album as I remember. I wonder were those songs theirs or someone else's?


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Subject: RE: Bold Reynard
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 09 Mar 07 - 08:07 PM

Apparently you may be able to get (presumably, unauthorised) CDR copies of the album from 'The Christian Music Exchange' at  http://members.aol.com/cmx/remast.htm.  In a nod to copyright law, they state "To comply with copyright law you should own an original copy of the item on record, tape, 8-Track or damaged CD to aquire [sic] a copy of the item on CDR."

That's probably a mis-interpretation of the law (and American law, at that), but there it is.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Bold Reynard
From: GUEST,Malcolm Eden
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 06:51 AM

I know this reply is a few years late and am not sure whether anyone will read it, but I was a founder member of Reynard and wrote Leviathan and co-wrote Bold Reynard with Andy Wood.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Bold Reynard
From: GUEST,Rob Jones
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 07:34 AM

Bold Reynard was written by Malcom Eden and was indeed on the Reynard album 'Green Anthem.' All the songs on Reynard's two albums, 'Fresh From The Earth ' and 'Green Anthem' were either written by members of Reynard or were traditional.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Bold Reynard
From: GMGough
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 11:37 AM

Bold Reynolds (not "Reynard")as recorded by Martyn Wyndham-Read on his CD "Mussels on a Tree" was written by Dave Toye of Sussex.

this song begins:
"My name it is Bold Reynolds,
I was born near Bonfire Hill"


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Subject: RE: Origin: Bold Reynard
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 03:53 PM

If Mal or Rob or any of the other members of Reynard happen to visit this thread again, Ken from my local folk club has been singing Leviathan for years now. He'd like to put a video of himself playing the song on Youtube and wonders if you're okay with that?

He's also been known to sing Bold Reynard, Liking is Easy and Gadara Moor, too...


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